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OK, so I don’t know if these are plot holes or what (I really hope not haha)…but any here are my questions:

  1. If midi-chlorian counts are highly correlated to force sensitivity, why can’t sentients induce more rapid midi-chlorian replication? Like what prevents everyone in the galaxy from being force sensitive? I read somewhere on Wookiepedia that deathly injured organisms can be given a blood transplant of another for their midi-chlorians, but no force sensitivity would be passed on. Why would no force sensitivity be passed on?

  2. Why did Darth Vader continue to help the emperor when he knew Padme was dead? Wasn’t Padme is only motivation for being on the dark side?

  3. How does “the high ground” mean Obi-Wan will have an advantage in Episode III?

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SGT-Crakers said:

OK, so I don't know if these are plot holes or what (I really hope not haha)...but any here are my questions:

1) If midi-chlorian counts are highly correlated to force sensitivity, why can't sentients induce more rapid midi-chlorian replication? Like what prevents everyone in the galaxy from being force sensitive? I read somewhere on Wookiepedia that deathly injured organisms can be given a blood transplant of another for their midi-chlorians, but no force sensitivity would be passed on. Why would no force sensitivity be passed on?

2) Why did Darth Vader continue to help the emperor when he knew Padme was dead? Wasn't Padme is only motivation for being on the dark side?

3) How does "the high ground" mean Obi-Wan will have an advantage in Episode III?

Welcome to the forum! I think most of us would say that these are difficulties brought on by the prequels. 

BUT, since you asked...

1) No clue. I guess maybe they are linked with a person in some non-transferable way.

2) Once you've murdered children for a cause, it's hard to just go back on it. He's all in.

3) He knew Anakin would do a triple front-flip over his head, and that he'd be able to, y'know, like swing... up at him. I don't know. 

I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.

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SGT-Crakers said:

OK, so I don't know if these are plot holes or what (I really hope not haha)...but any here are my questions:

1) If midi-chlorian counts are highly correlated to force sensitivity, why can't sentients induce more rapid midi-chlorian replication? Like what prevents everyone in the galaxy from being force sensitive? I read somewhere on Wookiepedia that deathly injured organisms can be given a blood transplant of another for their midi-chlorians, but no force sensitivity would be passed on. Why would no force sensitivity be passed on?

2) Why did Darth Vader continue to help the emperor when he knew Padme was dead? Wasn't Padme is only motivation for being on the dark side?

3) How does "the high ground" mean Obi-Wan will have an advantage in Episode III?

Welcome to the forum.

1.  Maybe Midichlorians are linked to special genetic markers of their host....or sumthin.

2.  Yeah, beheading an unarmed (un-handed) Lord of the Sith, killing younglings and the council members...doesn't leave much room for sympathy.

3.  Obi-wan having the "High Ground" gave him less ground to defend...it forced Anakin to expend more energy to reach him and made him over-confident which in turn leaves him as an open target....and the chance of losing his legs in the process.....and then it was done.   

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1). It's an implausible and unnecessary badly thought out piece of pseudo-science pressed into service to muddle a simple and more plausible (in it's vagueness) mystical energy field. If Star Wars was science fiction there would be no sound in space and at the very least the pseudo-science would have been worked out like it is in Star Trek. Star Wars is a space fairy tale, it has mystical energy fields instead of Gods or Genies, it doesn't need microscopic symbionts.

2). Anakin as seen in the PT is a bit of git anyway. He is ambitious, he is wrathful, he has a chip on his shoulder bigger than a small moon, he has a real gratitude problem. Padme is dead (even though she shouldn't be yet according to the OT but I digress) he still has an axe to grind with the remaining Jedi, he still has a very powerful Sith Master to study and bide time to supplant. He may be a cooked torso wrapped in walking leather but he does still get to order people around and inflict his breathing problems on people who disagree with him.

3) Bad pun.

Kenobi has physically got higher ground, an advantage which will render Anakin's leap into a futile gesture of rage resulting in him becoming a robot haggis.

He also has the moral high ground (or so Lucas thinks).

Anakin is the bad guy now and Kenobi is the good guy.

The good guy who exploited Padme's love and placed a pregnant woman right in the dangerzone to get a shot at killing his friend/pupil/ward/her husband.

The good guy who would go on to play the weirdest mind games on Padme's children both while living and as a spooky voice.

But that's how the line is meant to work.

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TV's Frink said:

Who cares, who cares, and who cares?

 

 

Why do you hate Star Couches?

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1) What Bingo said.

SW Wiki purports to explain:

A misconception exists that rather than being indicators, midi-chlorians actually are the Force or create it; there is no canonical basis for this belief.

Firstly, if that has ever been much of a misconception, it's not much worse than the truth.

Also, it makes them sound more like parasites than symbiotes. They're simply indicators, gathering in a Force-strong individual...

The rationale for midichlorians undermines itself as the Wiki also says:

When present in sufficient numbers, they could allow their symbiont to detect the pervasive energy field known as the Force.

So...they are indicators of strength in the Force...but without midichlorians...the person may not (can't?) be able to detect the Force. So we're still left with the question of what makes a person strong in the Force that causes Midichlorians to gather...and if the person is already strong in the Force, why do we need Midichlorians? Like Bingo says, "unnecessary badly thought out piece of pseudo-science." They add nothing but were supposed to push along the symbiotic narrative of TPM (which I thought fell flat on all levels).

On this background, the answers to your questions are...whatever reasons Lucasfilm wants to give you because it really isn't coherent.

2) What Bingo said: Anakin's a git. There were the bits about him not appreciating democracy, of wanting the (absolute) power to change things, but it was so offhand and poorly integrated that I agree it didn't seem like a motivator.

3) What Bingo said: bad pun.

I don't want you to think we are just PT haters - though a fair share of us are - but we've gone through the necessary stages of grief and decided that as much as we love Star Wars, there are some things we just can't abide. So ultimately everything that Bingo and Frink said.

The blue elephant in the room.

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Mrebo said:


So...they are indicators of strength in the Force...but without midichlorians...the person may not (can't?) be able to detect the Force.


According to Lucas, a person can't even live without midi-chlorians, muddling up the issue even more.

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Rox64 said:

TV's Frink said:

Who cares, who cares, and who cares?

 

 

Why do you hate Star Couches?

I have no idea what this means.

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The Worm Is The Spice, The Spice Is The Worm.

He who controls the spice controls the universe, he who controls the worm controls the universe, the power to destroy a thing is absolute power over it, he who can destroy the worm has absolute power over the spice, the spice is the universe, the universe is the spice, the worm is the universe, free your mind and your ass will follow.

Mother Earth is pregnant for the third time, for y'all have knocked her up. I have tasted the spicy worms in the mind of the universe, I was not offended, for fear is the mind killer and the Force will be with you always.

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He who controls the Spice Worms controls the Universe Girls.

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Bingowings said:

He who controls the Spice Worms controls the Universe Girls.

That is what I want.

What I really, really want.

Project Threepio (Star Wars OOT subtitles)

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TV's Frink said:

Rox64 said:

TV's Frink said:

Who cares, who cares, and who cares?

 

 

Why do you hate Star Couches?

I have no idea what this means.

You know, remember those scenes in the prequel trilogy where one of the characters was sitting on a couch or walking towards a window? The whole trilogy was based in these types of scenes.

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I shall now provide the proper response: 

 

Halloween Jack said:

TV's Frink said:

Who cares, who cares, and who cares?

I wonder if he really cares about anything... or anybody.

 

Darth Erica

"I care...."

 

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Who is she? She's beautiful.

The blue elephant in the room.