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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_(franchise)

This news has been out for a while

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Around the release of Alien Resurrection, Joss Whedon wrote an Earth set script for Alien 5, which Weaver disliked.[9] Before 20th Century Fox greenlit Alien vs. Predator, James Cameron had been working on a story for a fifth Alien film. Alien director Ridley Scott had talked with Cameron, stating "I think it would be a lot of fun, but the most important thing is to get the story right."[10] In a 2002 interview, Scott's concept for a story was "to go back to where the alien creatures were first found and explain how they were created", however he has not shown interest in pursuing the project.[10] On learning that Fox intended to pursue Alien vs. Predator, Cameron believed the film would "kill the validity of the franchise" and ceased work on his story, "To me, that was Frankenstein Meets Werewolf. It was Universal just taking their assets and starting to play them off against each other...Milking it."[11] On December 5, 2008 Sigourney Weaver hinted in an interview with MTV that she and Ridley Scott are working on an Alien spinoff film which will focus on the chronicles of Ellen Ripley rather than the Aliens.[12]

In May 2009, Carl Rinsch signed on to direct a prequel, which Ridley Scott and Tony Scott will produce. Tony Scott said filming may begin later in 2009.[13] However, Fox would prefer Ridley Scott direct the film.[14] In July 2009 it was confirmed that Ridley Scott would be returning to direct an Alien prequel with Jon Spaihts writing the script.[15]

 

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Not sure he has not done an alien film since 1979, and i've always argued that the second one by Cameron was better when i was younger now i am not too sure.  I think i like them equally.

The first Aliens production is a story unto itself.  You want to talk about development problems.

H.R. Giger and the original writer and producer were supposedly let go.

Did we get the Alien film we should have? Probably not but that is why its "Ridley Scott's Alien".

Not that i'm saying Scott is George Lucas but remember when Lucas returned to star wars and indiana jones nearly twenty years later, the results were less than spectacular in my own humble opinion.

I hope Scott does not somehow have to tie this into the current shit franchise that completely destroyed a pretty neat dark horse comic and made it into 2 stupid movies AVP.

Alien 3 and 4 are so bad i pretend they don't exist like i do with T3 and T4.

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The real problem with a prequel is how to get humans in there.

If the suits had a problem with a wooden planet full of space monks I doubt if they would put money into a 2 hr movie with just Giger's designs wiggling about on a bone ship.

These issues are discussed rather well in this article :

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/259949/the_plotobstacles_to_an_alien_prequel.html

I don't have the same problem about the Company knowing that the ship is there and sending the Nostromo out to investigate with Ash onboard as the author of the article has.

Burke in Aliens wasn't very high up in the chain of command and sent the colonists out to the co-ordinates in Ripley's report to feather his own nest so clearly information is passed around on a need to know basis, with in house rivals tending to their own pet projects.

Perhaps there was a previous encounter which someone in the Company wanted to capitalise on and sent the Nostromo out in the same way that Burke does 57 years later.

If this was a personal project of a Company stooge when the ship vanished the perpetrator may have covered his or her failiure up not knowing that Ripley was still floating out there waiting to awake company interest again almost six decades down the line.

I quite like the idea suggested by O'Bannon that the eggs were the remains of a civilised race and the Jockey's crew woke them without adults to provide the education necessary to turn them into anything more than very dangerous feral children.

My better half maintains that the space jokey was a cosmic pizza delivery boy and that the eggs were a strange delicacy from a very dangerous world were the xenomorphs are relatively harmless compared to the other nightmarish creatures that keep their numbers in check .

 

 

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Can't think of anyone else I'd rather have to pick up this project more than Ridley.  He's shown that he can continue to make great movies and I have confidence in this being the first man to return to a franchise he started and deliver a great project.

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The real question for me is will this prequel contradict the AvP movies?  Not that it would be a huge loss, but the AvP movies are so far removed from the Alien timeline that they fit pretty well.

And I for one would not be against a movie with no humans.

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doubleofive said:
...I for one would not be against a movie with no humans.

 

I'm with you on this.    I would like to see a film that explores a totaly new groundbreaking type of sci-fi alien related storytelling, the way the original had. If that involves making "Alien 0" a powerful non-formula, anti-horror, non-shoot em up, no humans film, I say "GO FOR IT"!

Scott still seems like the type of director up to ploting new territory.  I want to see something totaly new with aliens in it, that somehow logicaly fits in with the established lore.  Let's hope the new script does not start bringing up someting established in a past "AVP" or "Alien" franchise film, just because the audience will like it if you do.  I don't want the expected, I want the unexpected.

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I'd be intrigued by an Alien only movie but I just can't see it happening, these are the same people who pulled Vincent Ward's less daring Alien 3 plan appart and Ridley isn't as daring a film maker as he was was many years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6Dp2OfIT_M

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Can you imagine the diologue without a human context. Hiss, slobber, gunge. Thats about all we get from the latestest movie releases. Gimme the hiss, slobber and gunge!

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I bit of a recent update that some people may have missed.

The anticipation for his next project is building to fever pitch: it will be a two-part prequel to Alien, shot in 3D. Scott was never asked to make a sequel to Alien; that honour went to James Cameron, before a further two sequels and two Alien vs Predator spin-offs milked the franchise dry. But with the Lost co-creator Damon Lindoff polishing the first prequel's script, you can sense the competitor in Scott, desperate to put his stamp back on the film series that launched him. "Jim's raised the bar and I've got to jump to it," he says, in a friendly jibe at Cameron. "He's not going to get away with it." Set 30 years before the 1979 original, so with no room for Sigourney Weaver's Ripley, the prequels will explore the origins of the deadly aliens. "The film will be really tough, really nasty," he notes. "It's the dark side of the moon. We are talking about gods and engineers. Engineers of space. And were the aliens designed as a form of biological warfare? Or biology that would go in and clean up a planet?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6Dp2OfIT_M

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Damon Lindof.  NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

He will ruin it.

See what he did to star trek.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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Jezuz tapdancing Christ.  Is there any movie you think WON'T be ruined by someone other than the original creator?  Maybe Star Wars or Indiana Jones...

 

 

oh, wait...

 

 

 

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Ziz said:

Jezuz tapdanding Christ.

I can't wrap my head around two of these three words.

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'Tapdanding' is what you do when a chick puts her hand down the back of your pants, and sticks a finger inside your 'you-know-what', and pushes down really hard.

'Christ' is a mythical figure that some people made up a few years ago to justify getting a tonne of presents in late December.

'Jezuz' is an alternate spelling of 'Jebus'.

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Davnes007 said:

'Tapdanding' is what you do when a chick puts her hand down the back of your pants, and sticks a finger inside your 'you-know-what', and pushes down really hard.

Thanks but I already knew that one.

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Typo.  Corrected.

My outlook on life - we’re all on the Hindenburg anyway…no point fighting over the window seat.

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Well I've never really been a fan of the series, but the first film is great.

As long as the story is good-it will be awesome-Rid has still got it.

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I'm torn. Part of me really wanted an Alien backstory from the guy who invented it, but removing the Alien connection (and the guarantied money that would bring) and making an all-new universe is so incredibly ballsy that I've got to respect Ridley even more for NOT taking the easy prequel way out. I'm almost more excited for it now.

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"We had a bunch of good ideas and decided they were better than just a prequel."

THAT'S what I call art.

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So it is no longer an alien film, then not interested sorry.

I have been waiting for them to make a good sequel since the first 2.

At least Predators made up for all the bad predator films after the first one.

 

Have zero interest in a terminator 5.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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It's my understanding that it's a dark science fiction film taking place in the same universe as the Alien films, set years before the first Alien film.  It's not a "prequel" per se in that it isn't directly connected to the events of the main series.

Frankly, I think this is a great idea, and I'm looking forward to it more since I heard about this.

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skyjedi2005 said:

Have zero interest in a terminator 5.

I have a new theory.  You write down about fifty movies on separate pieces of paper.  You then pull one out of a hat, and when you are done with your on-topic post, you write a quick sentence about the movie you pulled out consisting of either

1) Hated it

OR

2) Ruined the franchise

OR

3) Not interested

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Tell me I'm wrong.

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^Put the knife back in the drawer, Mrs Sharp!

It could be argued that Blade Runner is already a dark Ridley Scott science fiction film set in the same universe as Alien.

Retroactively you could compile a list of films that could be slotted into that universe (Android for example).

I was amused as a Doctor Who fan to note that the main character is to be called Elizabeth Shaw.

Back in his youth Ridley was an in house designer for the BBC and just missed designing the Tardis interior and the Daleks by a gnat's whisker.

Bits of the Nostromo set, a chestburster and an Alien egg have all appeared in Doctor Who stories (spread over about two decades) and the plot to The Wheel In Space is rather similar to Alien in places.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6Dp2OfIT_M