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Original Trilogy Edits

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I know a lot of hardcore fans of the original Star Wars are very picky on it being the same way it was when it was released, and I completely understand, but some edits are completely justified. Like when they knocked down some walls in the Cloud City. Or when they replaced that horrible Palpatine character with the well known Ian McDiarmid Palpatine. Or when they fixed the lightsaber shots in the original movie to replace the original reflective material shots which didn’t always work in some shots. Just FYI, I am not dissing the original edits, I am just stating my opinion.

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Y’know, it never occurred to me to wonder about this until now, but did Lucas plan on having Clive Revill play the emperor in Episode VI when he cast him as the hologram voice in Empire?

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McDiarmid replaced the original actor cast for the Emperor on Return of the Jedi, and no it was not Clive Revill.

I don’t think they ever revealed the actors name but he was older than Ian and couldn’t wear the special contacts in his eyes. So it was serendipity that Ian ended up playing Emperor Palpatine at all.

As for the new shot in Empire since 2004 i hate it. It does not match his look in ROTJ, and the dialog is much worse than the original.

Also i can understand Lucas decision to put Hayden into Return of the Jedi and that it makes his 1-6 edit make more sense, but i never liked that change. Maybe i’m blinded by nostalgia, but i always liked Sebastian Shaw in that scene.
I also really hate the new voice for Boba Fett. I like the actor Temuera but his lines are delivered all wrong. Like he was recorded over the telephone reading a phone book or something. No gravitas or menace to his intonation.

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HarrisHolt said:

Like when they knocked down some walls in the Cloud City.

I feel very strongly about this.

Irvin Kershner chose to make it so the sets got more and more constricted and claustrophobic as the Empire closes in on the Rebels, to give the audience that same feeling of claustrophobia. Then George Lucas comes in and adds these CGI windows that don’t even look right, and mucks it all up.

For someone who moans about original visions so much, it’s pretty ironic that he disrespects Kershner’s original vision.

The discourse around this change can get so weird, too. It’s as if people think the lack of windows was an accident or something. Someone even told me once that there wasn’t any windows because of a technological limitation making ESB. They do realize there have been windows in movies since 1895, right? Hell, the unaltered cut of ESB had windows, just less of them.

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SparkySywer said:

HarrisHolt said:

Like when they knocked down some walls in the Cloud City.

I feel very strongly about this.

Irvin Kershner chose to make it so the sets got more and more constricted and claustrophobic as the Empire closes in on the Rebels, to give the audience that same feeling of claustrophobia. Then George Lucas comes in and adds these CGI windows that don’t even look right, and mucks it all up.

For someone who moans about original visions so much, it’s pretty ironic that he disrespects Kershner’s original vision.

The discourse around this change can get so weird, too. It’s as if people think the lack of windows was an accident or something. Someone even told me once that there wasn’t any windows because of a technological limitation making ESB. They do realize there have been windows in movies since 1895, right? Hell, the unaltered cut of ESB had windows, just less of them.

Yes, there have been windows in movies from the very beginning, just no windows showing a sprawling city in the clouds that couldn’t possibly exist in real life. The original concept art shows windows everywhere on Cloud City, they just could only have very simple tiny windows with 1980 effects technology. It’s a matter of technical limitations, not any attempt to create a “claustrophobic feeling”. That’s the reason why the Cloud City windows are some of my favorite changes, even if they are applied inconsistently.

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Adywan did fantastic work in making the Cloud City windows/backgrounds consistent in his edit. His work is my go-to version of ESB and it’s an excellent demonstration of how the SE’s should have been (i.e., fixing legit errors, improving visual effects, and not compromising the flow of the movie).