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Once Upon a Time in the West LD PCM Preservation

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Is anyone interested in preserving the original PCM mono track from the Once Upon a Time in the West LD? I'm not certain that it's completely theatrically-original as the end credits have replacement music, but I think it's still worth preservation as the BD's mono is compressed.

I can provide PCM audio (unfortunately non-Bit Perfect) if someone would sync it. A Bit Perfect rip would be better though!

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sure :)

make sure to keep the file as untouched as possible... 16bit, 44.1khz is best for sharing.

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Okay then, I'll be able to upload the audio in a few days, and I'll PM you the link, zeropc. Thanks for taking this on! Much appreciated.

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I have bit perfect captures from my laserdisc; 16-bit, 44.1kHz.

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good to hear lil brutto. if you can share it with us, we can try to sync it. 

can you please tell us, which laserdisc you used to capture the audio?

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Lil Brutto said:

I have bit perfect captures from my laserdisc; 16-bit, 44.1kHz.

 Fantastic! Did you use the Letterbox Paramount LD?

It certainly sounds better than what I could have provided...

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These are captures of the letterbox LD PCM audio. Happy to share.

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The Aluminum Falcon said:

Is anyone interested in preserving the original PCM mono track from the Once Upon a Time in the West LD? I'm not certain that it's completely theatrically-original as the end credits have replacement music, but I think it's still worth preservation as the BD's mono is compressed.

I can provide PCM audio (unfortunately non-Bit Perfect) if someone would sync it. A Bit Perfect rip would be better though!

 Hi. Can you give me any more info about the replacement music at the end credits?

From what I've read I believe the Cheyenne theme may be at the wrong place or should be omitted?

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I'd love to know the status of this.

Any chance the added scene of Harmonica getting up after being shot can be removed?  If someone could provide me with the PCM mix, I can do it myself.

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I've synced the mono pcm audio from the laserdisc to the blu-ray (thanks to lil brutto for the capture).

However i'm interested in cutting the harmonica rising scene too. How do I go about doing that? MKV container with AVC video (compressed).

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I use MKVToolNix and its addon MKVExtractGUI2.  That extracts the AVC and audio tracks.  I then import the video and audio into Adobe Premiere, and edit the film.  After that, I combine the video/audio into an MKV again using mkvmerge.

If you send me the synced audio file, I could give it a try.

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I know that I'm late to the party on this discussion, but I was curious about the end title music as well. What was supposed to be there?

I've only ever seen the current American cut of the movie, but I've always felt that the film would work a lot better without that shot. Especially given the lighting and music in Harmonica's second introduction in the tavern scene.

“That's impossible, even for a computer!”

 

“You don't do ‘Star Wars’ in Dobly.”

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I read somewhere that Jill's Theme is supposed to play to the end and Cheyennes Theme plays after screen goes black. But I'm not 100% on that.

As for the rising scene, honestly it never bothered me before but after reading about it, it makes sense to leave it out. The tavern scene would play so much better without it.

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I have seen the original full-length credits (it was kept in the German theatrical version of the film). However, I don't have a link to it anymore. I will ask around if it can be found.

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I'm working on an edit that incorporates the PCM mono mix.  I'm removing the scene of Harmonica waking up from the gunshot.  Has anyone seen what this is supposed to look like?

Is the long windmill part of original scene?  It either it cuts from the windmill to McBain's shotgun, or from Woody Strode falling down dead to McBain's shotgun.

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The windmill was part of the Harmonica waking up scene.

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Is there a decent audio source for the German version? There's no dialogue in the end credits, but there is foley throughout, so you couldn't just track in “Jill's America” from the album to recreate it — it's a very different mix from what appears in the film anyway.

Did “Farewell To Cheyenne” indeed reprise as exit music?

“That's impossible, even for a computer!”

 

“You don't do ‘Star Wars’ in Dobly.”

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No, the Cheyenne theme does not reappear at all.

I have found and old VHS edition by CIC and ordered it. I hope the sound quality would be adequate enough.

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Are there any official release blu rays with the original English mono track available? (Lossy or lossless)

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Was the 5.1 track for this 'redone' in that they used newer foley effects like TGTBTU 5.1?

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supersonic395 said:

Are there any official release blu rays with the original English mono track available? (Lossy or lossless)

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Was the 5.1 track for this 'redone' in that they used newer foley effects like TGTBTU 5.1?

The US Blu-ray has the mono mix in lossy DD.

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TheHutt said:

The windmill was part of the Harmonica waking up scene.

 Thanks.  Out it comes.

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jimbotron235 said:

supersonic395 said:

Are there any official release blu rays with the original English mono track available? (Lossy or lossless)

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Was the 5.1 track for this 'redone' in that they used newer foley effects like TGTBTU 5.1?

The US Blu-ray has the mono mix in lossy DD.

 

Thanks for the info.

Is the US Blu Ray region free?

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Does anyone have a high quality version of that?  I'd like to insert that and get rid of the Cheyenne theme there.  I suppose I could just use music from the soundtrack.  I can't tell if there's any sound effects playing underneath the music there.