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I hope that new 4k will get soon release on BD. 😉

16mm U.S.A version mounted on 3 x 2300’ reels and printed on FUJI film stock.
This is a flat print, not scope.








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Once Upon Time In The West had a showing on French television a few weeks ago in a gorgeous HD print with the best colour I’ve seen, far superior to the Blu Ray release we currently have available.

I read the so called “new” release is the same as the last one so maybe French tv got theirs from another source. Certainly better from the colour pov and of course it was the full length French release.

Saw it in October in a cinema in Toulouse, great to see again on a huge screen, and the print was the same as the Blu Ray, so in many ways the tv broadcast was a revelation!

ptb Jan 2020
https://www.hometheaterforum.com/community/threads/sergio-leone-blu-ray-thread.325032/page-12

ptb
Currently watching the broadcast on French television , the best transfer I’ve seen, sharp focus, gorgeous colour palette, rich and varied. A real treat.

11-24-2019
I watched it on GRIT TV yesterday, and the color was amazing.
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=167266&page=33

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Post by ptb is from Jan 2020 @ hometheaterforum.

But his post over forum.blu-ray.com is from 11-10-2019, 07:42 PM
Currently watching the broadcast on French television…
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=17044361&postcount=647

Il était une fois dans l’Ouest (W9) : A qui sont ces yeux ? Retour sur les regards cultes du cinéma 10 nov. 2019
Dès 21h05, W9 diffuse le cultissime Il était une fois dans l’Ouest…
https://www.programme-tv.net/news/cinema/74683-il-etait-une-fois-dans-l-ouest-france-3-les-regards-cultes-du-cinema-a-qui-sont-ces-yeux-34-photos/

Prochaine diffusion : (Next broadcast Smile
Lundi 13 avril à 23h00 (Monday April 13 at 11:00 p.m.) VOSTFR - FR Dubbed

Il Etait une fois dans l’Ouest 1968 Rediff HDTV 720p MKV x264 AAC - 2.97GB - Old 4 months @ yggt***
Date de rediffusion : 10 novembre 2019

Stereo Remix from the early-90s
I’m curious what they’ll do about the audio mix.
I’ve caught a print of this once and it was a stereo remix from the early-90s that sounded too good, if that makes sense. I appreciate good audio, but it’s distracting to see older pre-Dolby films futzed like this.
http://www.criterionforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2698&start=175

Incredibly Grainy 😃
Once Upon a Time in the West, like many of Leone’s westerns, was shot in 2-perf Techniscope. This is inherently an incredibly grainy format that looks really bad for home video – a postage-stamp-sized frame roughly the same height as 16mm. It looked even worse in the theater, because of the optical blow-ups and anamorphic conversion involved. It’s never gonna be super-sharp, because the frame size is so small, plus it’s a 45-year-old movie.
https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/dnr-on-once-upon-a-time-in-the-west-blu-ray.251661/#post-6597749

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friendlyneighborhoodschizo said:

The Vudu 2160 WEB is out if any of you guys might be interested.




Is this the complete restored version with all available extra footage and correct opening and closing parts or just simply a 4k version of the new widely available version? Thanks

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Realmovielover said:

friendlyneighborhoodschizo said:

The Vudu 2160 WEB is out if any of you guys might be interested.




Is this the complete restored version with all available extra footage and correct opening and closing parts or just simply a 4k version of the new widely available version? Thanks

I can send over the file if you want to check.
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Apr 3, 2023
UHD BD quality download on Kaleidescape, a whopping 86.8 GB
https://www.hometheaterforum.com/community/threads/once-upon-a-time-in-the-west-4k-uhd.378948/page-4

Review of UHD - May 8, 2023
PICTURE | The 4K HDR release of the revered Leone epic looks gorgeous but is a little too clean, removing the necessary grit, resulting in a look that’s untrue to the original film

SOUND | Crisp and clean while staying true to the soundtrack—but, once again, where’s the original mono mix?

With the link to Kaleidescape.
https://www.cineluxe.com/review-once-upon-a-time-in-the-west/