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Yeah. I gave up on despising them. I meant to say that they are not badly made films.

Wait. You know what I still hate AOTC and ROTS. Can there be a hate II and III and might watch them every once in a 1,000 years but thinks I is at least meh?

 

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No.  Either you're with me or against me.

IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!

"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005

"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM

"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.

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xhonzi said:

No.  Either you're with me or against me.

Only a prequelite deals in absolutes...

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greenpenguino said:

xhonzi said:

No.  Either you're with me or against me.

Only a prequelite deals in absolutes...

BLaraRGEARAHHGHHH!  I HATE YOU!

IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!

"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005

"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM

"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.

Rewrite the Prequels!

 

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To be honest they are too mediocre to even be the most mediocre and that's what so sad about it.

Lucas moaned about the decline of storytelling in Hollywood blockbusters in the years before 1999 and I agreed with him and thought he spoke from a position of authority.

But it's hard to let him get away with knocking a largely forgettable but not badly put together experience like Godzilla (1998) when a year later he crimped off The Phantom Menace with a huge fanfare (presumably to hide the grunting).

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I watch TPM (Phantom Edit) and ROTS on occasion. I'd rather have a Star Wars film that I'm a bit disappointed in than no Star Wars film. There's a lot in both those films i enjoy.

 

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As the years go by I find myself falling more and more into the hate category. It's been at least 3 years since I've actually watched a prequel, which is great b/c they're finally becoming such a distant memory that I'm able to once again watch the OT without ANYTHING from the prequels coming to mind & diminishing my enjoyment. Whenever I do see a clip or read postings on the web about the prequels I'm just reminded how bad they are and how much they detract from the awesomeness of the OT. It's almost like George sat down & decided "hey, let me take everything that was awesome & worked really well in Star Wars and find a way to forever taint it & make it less enjoyable.

I guess that's really the problem. As movies themsleves, the prequels range from mediocre to just awful, but it's the way they taint (for me at least) all the stuff I enjoy about the OT that really makes me grind my teeth in anger & frustration.

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Heh - what I like about my mind is, it's very eager to relive movies and can forget what came before, or after :D

If I watch the Matrix or something... the first hour, I don't know the mystery behind the Matrix... I don't know that Commander Lock is somewhere down there... I don't know that Morpheus is a deluded crackpot.
My mind just blends it out when I'm watching it :)

Same with SW, I know what happened in the prequels, but at the same time I can watch any of the classic movies and my mind gladly pretends like the other stuff doesn't exist.
Vader isn't Leia's father, he's just a brute pointing a finger at her in that white corridor. The Emperor isn't called Palpatine, he also wasn't a slimy politician once, he's just a mythical dark wizard emanating power and evil.

So I guess I'm kinda lucky that I'm not bothered by whatever came after or before the part I like.
But some parts in the prequels are just unbearable :D

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I'd say I'm in between resenting them and outright hating them.

If I could watch a recent release of the films or read a current comic/novel without being constantly reminded of their existence, I'd probably write them off as big budget B-movies - not great by any means, but watchable for their entertainment factor. But by having the OT & EU hacked to pieces to accommodate them, without any PT-less alternatives made available, pretty much just poisons the well and makes them intolerable.

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Well George has not completely had the novelizations rewritten for the original trilogy yet, he just had new junior novelizations made instead.

But well the original novelizations, comic adaptations, and first 2 radio dramas as well as the original screenplays pre special edition are no longer canon.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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I was talking about original storylines more than novelizations/adaptations.

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"Hate" is kind of strong, but I don't think they're "okay" either. I think they're badly made films, and I don't see myself voluntarily watching them ever again.

I can ignore the prequels and pretend they don't exist quite nicely, except that Lucas had "prequelized" the OT which is what really pisses me off.

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skyjedi2005 said:

Well George has not completely had the novelizations rewritten for the original trilogy yet, he just had new junior novelizations made instead.

But well the original novelizations, comic adaptations, and first 2 radio dramas as well as the original screenplays pre special edition are no longer canon.

Canon should have very little meaning for Star Wars fans at this point.

The blue elephant in the room.

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I legitimately hate episode 1.

Episode 2... it's horrible, but I can ignore it.

Episode 3 I can actually sit through and watch. It's still really, really bad, but it's the best of the prequels.

Honestly, I'm good just watching the RLM reviews over and over. The best thing about the prequels is that they spawned those reviews.

 

I am far, far, FAR more offended by the special editions than the prequels. As I'm sure you all are.

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There's a chance I would jump on the hate bandwagon if not for the fanedits. But as is... meh.

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Put me in the everything-but-hate category.  I feel nearly every emotion towards the prequels at one point or another.

Also, I like this thread.  It's refreshing to have a topic that is more interesting than "how do you feel about the prequels?"

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For me, the fan edits prove how bad the prequels are.  In my opinion, none of the ones I've seen (and I've seen several) actually make any of the movies good. They might make them suck less, but that also makes them more boring. Strip away all the worst moments and the basic movies you're left with are just bland-city.  If I'm going to watch a prequel, I'd just as soon see Jar Jar bouncing all over the place - at least I can shake my head, i.e., at least it engages me on some level.

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I choose to just ignore them completely but you can add me to the hater list.

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I was thinking to myself that there aren't any films I actually HATE. That level of emotional investment seems odd in regards to whats supposed to be a couple hours distraction.

But I'm sick right now, and last night my brother called me and offered to bring over "Van Helsing."

I would have punched him in the face.

So maybe hating a movie isn't really that unreasonable. :)

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Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

For me, the fan edits prove how bad the prequels are.  In my opinion, none of the ones I've seen (and I've seen several) actually make any of the movies good. They might make them suck less, but that also makes them more boring. Strip away all the worst moments and the basic movies you're left with are just bland-city.  If I'm going to watch a prequel, I'd just as soon see Jar Jar bouncing all over the place - at least I can shake my head, i.e., at least it engages me on some level.

My thoughts exactly.

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theprequelsrule said:

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

For me, the fan edits prove how bad the prequels are.  In my opinion, none of the ones I've seen (and I've seen several) actually make any of the movies good. They might make them suck less, but that also makes them more boring. Strip away all the worst moments and the basic movies you're left with are just bland-city.  If I'm going to watch a prequel, I'd just as soon see Jar Jar bouncing all over the place - at least I can shake my head, i.e., at least it engages me on some level.

My thoughts exactly.

Apologies for the constant self-promotion, but I think some of you guys who feel this way and therefore never bother with the fanedit forum might feel differently about this version of TPM:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Episode-I-The-Ridiculous-Menace-A-Frink-Fanedit/topic/12452/

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skyjedi2005 said:

the original novelizations, comic adaptations, and first 2 radio dramas as well as the original screenplays pre special edition are no longer canon.

George doesn't get to make that decision for other people - no matter how hard he tries or how often he claims otherwise. 

Fortunately for me, Lucas has written none of my personal Star Wars canon. 

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^Couldn't agree more.  Canon is what you make it...especially when it comes to Star Wars.

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I was watching RLM's review of TPM last night (it alone makes TPM's existence worthwhile), and was suddenly struck with how much better character development takes place in the Holiday Special than in TPM. For instance, Chewbacca's family members all have interesting and distinct personalities, especially that dirty-old-grandpa.  And I can imagine backstories for each of the officers.  So, what's worse, midichlorians or Life Day?  That's a tough one, really.

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Updated the first post.  Let me know if I misinterpreted your comments.

I feel a bit like the waiter in Brazil insisting that Sam Lowry order his meal by number and not by name.

IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!

"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005

"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM

"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.

Rewrite the Prequels!