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Official Jacob's Ladder UNCUT Fan Edit Thread

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Hey all,

After searching the site and other corners of the net carefully to make sure no one’s already done this, I’ve decided to take up the mantle to assemble a fan edit of Adrian Lynne’s “Jacob’s Ladder” (1990) with the infamous deleted scenes inserted back into the narrative.

I’m starting this thread to make updates on progress, get feedback and ideas, and other JL-related discussion. Jacob’s Ladder is one of my favorite films and I have long wished that Lynne would make a “Director’s Cut” with the excised footage restored, as he expresses great affinity for the footage in spite of his instincts (and test audience results) in 1990 to cut the scenes.

There are some significant problems that will make this a very amateur effort. Chief among these problems are:

  1. As of now, the only sources I have are the US and UK blu-rays, which are a decent scan of the original, with grain intact, but certainly nothing to write home about.
  2. The deleted scenes are pretty abysmal in quality. 720x480 non-anamorphic, fuzzy, lots of picture noise, audio is noisy as hell. It will take some finesse to make them even minimally acceptable.
  3. There are, as yet, still MORE deleted scenes that are not available anywhere AFAIK, as evidenced by some BTS in the “Building Jacob’s Ladder” featurette on the blu-ray. A scene is shown where, early in the film when Jacob is stuck in the subway station, he enters a men’s bathroom and is confronted by two men having sex (perhaps two demons.) Other bits of scenes not found in the film are seen in this featurette, and in various trailers. Without these elements, of course, no COMPLETE uncut edit of Jacob’s Ladder can ever happen.

I have a few technical questions, for any of you who are interested in this edit:

  1. The blu-rays feature a newer DTS-HD 5.1 audio mix. Of course, the original theatrical prints had Dolby Stereo tracks. There are a couple of other audio options I could add to the final video file. The Special Edition letterbox US laserdisc (2001) has an AC-3 track; the P&S earlier US release (and almost every other LD release) feature the Dolby Stereo/Surround PCM tracks. Would you prefer all of these options?

  2. The MPEG4 AVC movie file is 23.98 fps, but the non-anamorphic deleted scenes are 29.97. Does anyone have any advice on what FPS setting is proper in my master session settings for editing?

That’s all for now.

Cheers,
Peter Z.
“Ah HA! A creeping kid! … for my film… ‘The Creeping Kid!’”

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while I’ve nothing helpful to add
I am extremely interested!!
any progress on this??

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From looking at technical threads in other places, I believe it’s best to go with the lower framerate. Apparently upscaled framerate looks bad whereas downscaled frames is just find. I could be wrong though.
Anyways, I’m super interested in this.

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Thanks, jrzag… I had a feeling such was the case, but happy for that to be confirmed by someone else.