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[Official] All Star Wars films released in 4K HDR on Disney Plus: 4KSE with more changes

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Disney Plus is releasing today with all Star Wars films in HDR 4k, they are using the special editions for the original trilogy.

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This appears to be true. They’ve also included the Fox Fanfares, and updated the Lucasfilm logos to match the Sequels.

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And would you believe it? They changed the Greedo scene, AGAIN! He’s got an extra line now right before the shooting starts.

If I had some gum, I’d chew a hole into the sun…

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Is it too early to ask how the new 4K presentation compares to 4K77 for example?

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There are indeed changes…

https://twitter.com/starwarsviscomp/status/1194160489825284097?s=21

^ links to doubleofive’s superb ‘Star Wars Visual Comparisons’ twitter page

 

Edit - a link to the changed Greedo scene on a larger sized screen:-

crissrudd4554 said:

Well we got a new contender! Greedo’s LAST WORD!

https://streamable.com/nit5m

 

Double Edit - a link to a couple of ‘frame comparison’ scenes highlighting the colour changes:-

Han Solo IRL said:

Quick comparison with what I have on my hdd:

http://www.framecompare.com/screenshotcomparison/DYLWWNNX

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http://www.framecompare.com/screenshotcomparison/DYLWGNNX

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I find that answer vague and unconvincing. Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves?
Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? And say something righteous and hopeful for a change?

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Can anyone comment on the colour grade of these?

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Stotchy said:

Can anyone comment on the colour grade of these?

People have said the grading is redone and looks more like the theatrical version.

What’s the internal temperature of a TaunTaun? Luke warm.

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Great. Good thing that the other day I was doing some video editing and took some scenes from Despecialized and put them into the Silver Screen Edition because I prefer Silver Screen Edition’s color grading for the most part but there are a few scenes where Despecialized has it better. No, I’m not sharing it, but I’m just saying that that’ll be my copy of Star Wars, not this. Yes, I have 4K77 too, but I’m not a big fan of it TBH.

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Wow, so are these the 4K restorations Reliance did then? The color grading is improved (thank the maker) but Greedo is still Greedo-ing.

What in the worlllld

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So this is an upscale of the 2011 SE with a different color grade and (cringe) a further edited Greedo scene? I take it episode 2 and 3 are also upscales?

What about The Phantom Menace? Is that also an upscale of 1080p elements, is it true 4k… or is it an upscale of a 2k master?

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Danfun, do you also love the soup and the bread, or just the bunny?

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Accidental double post. Whoops

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Possessed said:
Danfun, do you also love the soup and the bread, or just the bunny?

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When outside off topic, use a link to the bunny if you really feel the need to invoke it.
Warnings will be next if some restraint is not shown.

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It’s been confirmed that these are the 4K restorations done by Reliance in 2012, before Lucas sold the company, intended to be the base from which a 3D re-release series would be created.

Entirely new 4K scan & color grade. NOT the blu-rays from 2011 as previously reported.

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The colors look closer to the theatrical, yet its still the 2011 SE changes. It’s so weird to look at. It’s almost like the rescanned the prints they have. It just looks so odd. Also the greedo addition… like WHY?

Green is not a creative color

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If these were indeed the rescanned’s that Lucas commissioned to be used for his 3D versions than perhaps the Greedo line is a Lucas change that just never made it to the public until now.

Jedit: The colors on the Death Star do look amazing, I never thought we would see a new version of the film though, it’s astounding to me.

Green is not a creative color

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My nitpicky addition to these conversations: The 2011 blu-ray release isn’t a Special Edition. The only Special Edition came out in 1997. Everything else since then is just a version of Star Wars. It’s easier to simply delineate any version by year than it is to continue calling them all “Special Editions.”

At this point, the name is a complete misnomer. There’s nothing “special” about them - the only one that’s actually special is the 1997 one, because it got a theatrical re-release under that title.

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I just did a brief glance at ROTS on Mustafar and even the colors there are different. I wonder if every single film has a new color grading to it. It’s almost like someone took the brightness down and then boosted the contrast during the Obi/Ani fight.

Green is not a creative color

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It almost looks like an automatic HDR to SDR conversion for the 1080p streams. Or maybe I’m just too used to seeing the retina-burning colors of the old HD masters.

If I had some gum, I’d chew a hole into the sun…

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schorman13 said:

It almost looks like an automatic HDR to SDR conversion for the 1080p streams. Or maybe I’m just too used to seeing the retina-burning colors of the old HD masters.

the 1080p/non-4k versions definitely still have the changes. i’ve watched sections on my phone and PS4.
i’ve resolved to finally buying a 4k tv set this weekend to get to the bottom of this.

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I only spotchecked TPM, TESB and ROTJ. I found that unlike the worldwide DVD and BR releases, TFA does NOT have burned in English subtitles.

ANH is definitely different. With my attempts to correct some of these things, my guess is that this is a genuine 4k scan. It still suffers from being too red (all of them except TLJ do) and too dark, but other than that, Just about every issue with the previous scan (DVD/HDTV/BR) that has pissed me off over the years has been fixed. This release of ANH lifts it to the watchable category for the first time in digital form. So many corrections and I haven’t even really watched the entire thing yet. This gives me a reason to watch the entire saga fresh before TROS.

It also means a new master to use for color correcting. One that won’t require near as much work.

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Now for the BIG question … can anyone figure out a way to get these off of Disney+?

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I’m certain we’ll have webrips in HD by the end of the day. If they’re not up at certain pirate-based outposts already.

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Funcha said:

Now for the BIG question … can anyone figure out a way to get these off of Disney+?

Well, someone ripped the first episode of The Mandalorian in 4K HDR on Blutopia. I’m sure 4K rips of the Star Wars movies will follow shortly.

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Also, I understand this isn’t at the top of everyone’s list, but are there any new subtitle/dubbing languages available? Can someone post a complete list?

Project Threepio (Star Wars OOT subtitles)

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CatBus said:

Also, I understand this isn’t at the top of everyone’s list, but are there any new subtitle/dubbing languages available? Can someone post a complete list?

I only went into that setting in two movies and I didn’t see anything unusual. Not very many choices. Spanish audio and English, Spanish, and Netherlands subtitles.