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yes, but we'd like to his 50K confirmed signatures as well.
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impressive...
most impressive!

lol
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Unfortunately, GL wasn't elected to his current post. Damn.
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Well we finall hit the big 50,000

If you read in the CHUD.com forums, Carl Cunningham who was on the set of Ep3 and is generally in the know says that this release of the SE is basically to quiet all the whining fans who have been angered by GL constantly saying "no dvds until after Ep3". And that basically this set is not the real deal. According to CC there will still be a big 6 box set, with the uber special editions in 2007 for the sagas 30th anniversary. He also says that if the original versions are ever to make it to DVD it is likely they would be part of this box set ala the ALien Quadrility 9disc set. He says that they have already encounterd a lot of problems digitizing the OT SE onto dvd for clean up, so to have OV OT ready any time soon is not possible, which make sense, because the clean up would be a lot more.

Now GL has used the word "NEVER" many times in regards to the old cuts, and I personally believe that he hates the original versions (and I don't get the sense he's too keen on the OT in general). Nevertheless, CC says that any time he has talked to LFL marketing/licsening suits it has always been a "never say never" situation, and that he says is an offical quote.

If all that is true, I think it brings to mind a couple of important points

1) this dvd release was done due to fan pressure. And infact the TPM dvd release was also done due to fan pressure. SO I'd say there is definitely no reason for us to give up our damn fool idealistic crusade yet.

2) The Uber special edition (being the worst kept secret) will eventually make its way onto DVD, which means that the 97 SE is as much a work in progress or "rough cut" as the OV OT. And if GL will release one "rough cut" to dvd, then its perfectly plausible he'll release another.

Speaking for myself (and I know I could reverse this) I'm not going to buy this DVD set. The best way to cast my vote is to speak with my wallet, and this release feels like half measures. I was always content to wait for the 2007 release and have it done right. If I'm going to have the SE, then I want the compelte SE, I want to see Jimmy SMitts on alderaan in ANH, and Ian McDiarmid as Palpatine in ESB. I want a Jabba that doesn't look like ass and I want all the matte lines cleaned up and the lightsabers redone for ANH. But instead we're getting the '97 version, its not the classic version most fans prefer, and its not the great restored/enhanced version so many fans have dreamed of. Its the worst of both worlds, and i already have these movies in widescreen on VHS. I can keep waiting.

Its always been my opinion that the reason GL would never relase the OV OT on DVD is because he cannot risk them outselling the SEs. It would be too embarrassing. I think it would basically be percieved as the populace saying "you know all this CG and digital revolution, and films are not complete they're just abandon, and revisionist cinema technique you've been preaching this past 10 years? Its all a load of bull."

At least I think thats how he would see it. The past 10-12 years of SW have been all about pushing CG, pushing digital, and pushing the PT as better then the OT. And if the OV OT came along and just annihilated the PT dvd sales and the SE dvd sales then that would basically say that all that was for nothing and people would rather have the effects of the 70s over those of todays. And that wouldn't be good for business. Of course the simple solution is simply to sell both the 1977 version and the 2007 version exclusively in the same set, and then its not a matter of one versus the other.

So in closing I think its great that we've reached 50,000, and I think it would be even better if we could reach 100,000 by opening day of Episode III. I'm not sure this is a battle we can win, but I know its one we can fight.

Keep up the good work everyone!


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Originally posted by: Rebel Scumb
1) this dvd release was done due to fan pressure. And infact the TPM dvd release was also done due to fan pressure. SO I'd say there is definitely no reason for us to give up our damn fool idealistic crusade yet.

The best piece of news I've heard this week. Thanks. And I'm not about to give up yet.

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I've got to be honest, the fact that GL doesn;t think we should have the OV OT only makes me want it more.
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Yep, and the fact that he's shoving the SE down our throats makes me like it less.
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indeed.

Are you going to buy this release?
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50K and rising all the time.WOOHOO!!!
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Are you going to buy this release?

Nope. And I know you're not. I think you said so already.
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thats still a tough one... its still star wars.
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Well here's my take. I have the SE on VHS, and I know I'm going to buy the ultimate edition regardless of whether or not the OV comes out, so the only reason I would buy this one is because of the extras which are likely to be exclusive to this release. WHich is why I bought AotC despite thinking its terrible.

The only other motivation I have for buying this release is if the OV never comes out, and the ultiamte edition ends up being even worse then the SE, because if the OV doesn't come out then I'm jsut going to edit out greedo shooting first and any other changes that bug me, and it would probably be easier to do that from the lesser changed '97 edition then the uber changed 2007 version. But then I'm still holding out hope that the 2007 version will be awesome.

Either way, I still want my OV. But as it stands now, I'm not buying the sept o4 dvds, and I don't feel in anyway excited that they are coming.
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the only reason I would buy this one is because of the extras which are likely to be exclusive to this release

I feel exactly the same way.

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My final decision on the matter will be determined largely by what extras are announced, but even if I do buy it, it certainly won't be right away.
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There are 45,604 confirmed signatures and still counting. I think during the making of the original trilogy, George Lucas was getting high on the smell of fresh money. As a result, it killed a few too many brain cells leaving him rich but stupid. Finally leading to the ruins of great movies, followed by the makings of a bore (1999) and a chick flick (2002). He has one last ditch effort to redeem himself in 2005.

45,604 confirmed signatures! And yet he still refuses to give an inch. What the hell is he thinking?
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well if Lucas does sucker me into buying his SE.... which wont be right away ill tell you that much... i SWEAR on everything i own that i wont be buying these uber editions... one man can only screw a movie so much... however hes trying to break that record... and believe me, he will screw it! lol

as long as i have my OT and my SE trilogy for comparison im happy...
as for the prequels.. he could re-release those DVDs a billion times and i would never buy them....

THE ONLY way i would but those POS would be if Vader came out of the case himself, threw me my own lightsaber and then continued to give me the biggest asswhooping ive ever seen in my whole life as a human being... only if that happened would i buy the prequels again... LOL!!
"Never. I'll never turn to the darkside. You've failed your highness. I am a jedi, like my father before me."
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Supposedly there is a TPM SE in the works.
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You're kidding! Already? People aren't through bashing this version yet.
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lol
i dont think we'll ever be done with that travesty
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Poor poor TPM.

Nobody loves it.


The changes I've heard wind of are replacing Yoda with CG Yoda, and adding Bail and Dooku in some how even if its just small cameos. WHether thats true or not remains to be seen. I think all three are good ideas though.
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Eh, don't bash it till we see it or hear about what really would be going in. It could add to it, u never know.
I just hate stupid people.

GO JETS!!!!

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