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OT.com is so loved....
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Don't pay this any mind. Nothing is more childish than talking about people behind their collective back. Especially when they act like they're so much better even when slinging insults at one another. I have the impression through my browsing that that is one of the most hostile boards around. I'd take lunacy over pig-headedness anyday. However, since I'm not a member over there, I won't stoop to their level and liebel everyone there based on an impression. Facism.com my ass. At least we don't hate SE fans only because they like the SE. We didn't ask to be blacksheep. 
Made for IE Forum's Episode III theme month - May 2005.
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Looks like we are all the same and have no other opinions...
Probably best to ingore the trolling.
A little patience goes a long way on this old-school Rebel base. If you are having issues finding what you are looking for, these will be of some help…
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‘How do I do this?’ on the OriginalTrilogy.com - includes info on how to ask for a fan project and how to search for projects and threads on OT•com.
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But we have a lot of other stuff as well. In general, this board is the best thing that happened to my love of Star Wars in a long time. I wouldn't say to MF.com that "we're not like that" but I would say "yes, but there's a whole world of other stuff and other viewpoints on here."
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We Got Death Star!
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Not that we arent guilty of it from time to time, but that whole thread looks like a bunch of people who are gonna have tired arms soon, from patting eachother on the back so frequently.
*I just lost my concentration because Shaq is playing basketball with Regis on tv, WTF?*
At any rate, people making such broad generalizations should be ignored. I dont think we are all malicious and nasty. I dont want to see GL publicly flailed all the time.
I think the only people we ever really tear into are the StarWars.com fanboys, but thats just because they are silly.
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"The biggest problem people over there have is the inability to be satisfied with anything."
LOL
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I've made it on MillenniumFalcon.com.
So long losers I'm in the big leagues now!
Man THOSE jerks are REALLY sad.
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." - Goebbels.
"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - Orwell.
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I'm a movie fan, and my opinion is that these suck hard, but stating the opinion brands you as some sort of heretic from the Lucas faithful. It's quite amusing when these same people try and brand me as a fanboy. It's like they never look in the mirror or read what they post.
Stating a SW movie sucks does not mean the comment is wrong, or that the person who loves it is right.
Lucas fanboys, repeat that 10 times.
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I've made it on MillenniumFalcon.com.
So long losers I'm in the big leagues now!"
Me too. What an honor. Fanboys dogging on fanboys. [monotone]Whoopie[/monotone]. [Plain face]
[EDIT] That wasn't the emoticon I wanted.
<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>
<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>
<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>
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They call us losers? Yikes.
I really feel that we have a pretty well grounded and diverse group of viewpoints here or there is no way I would have stayed on as long as I have.
Funny to see some of the same posters over there bashing us here and yet they still post here (tlbauerle, faid).
Out of curiosity, who was Fatboy Roberts over here? He says he was on and got some people to admit he had some good points. I'm wondering who he was because I've never seen that name used here.
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Basically the whole paragraph is referring to my refutation of Lucas as sole author/auteur. But the specific reference to "ONe individual even called him a "meddler" in his own films" oh yeah that's ALL ME BABY.
I'm so... honoured.
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." - Goebbels.
"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - Orwell.
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im not gonna hold any of this in but i expected that from Faid since the day he got here he's been nothing but an a-hole....
tlbauerle i never would have thought of.... but hey... i guess looks can be decieving...
i would give both of these losers a permanant bann but thats just me....
they're just another sheep in the large flock on Skywalker Ranch.... and the only reason Lucas is keeping you around is for your wool...
but this is the last straw for Luke....
let the fanboys celebrate their defective 2004 editions.... after all its not like they know what the definition of quality is... they think the SE's are the way to go....
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We simply want the option to see what we once liked, no loved, and had taken from us. This thread is garbage, and it is disturbing that people from this forum are badmouthing us. People on that thread brag about trying to take down magnolia...crap. Our numbers grow. Our recognition grows. You know I was talking on the phone with Rikter 2 days ago and mentioned how every review I have read of the boxset (which I do not hate, but do have some problems with) does mention the purists or the "changes", even the overwhelmingly positive ones. That is a victory in itself. Kershner, Lowry, Ling, all mention to expect Lucas to cave to the public outcry with his 2007 release. Victory. Look in the end it may or may not happen, but we have won hearts and minds and given a home to those that feel abandoned by something that was such a huge part of their lives and childhoods. We found a home. And their is diversity here. People from all over the world. People of different backgrounds. People that have vastly different likes and dislikes with the Star Wars saga. People that know the SW universe to minute detail and casual fans. The board may have some general consensus, but that's what makes it home. If you dare question or think about what you love deeply...this is the place.
I have made so many friends here and like my thread on my fiancee, I post things that are personal and funny. I enjoy conversing with my friends. I think we can "bash" at times, but in jest. We laugh here and have a sense of humor and the diversity and the right to question often make so many of our thread amusing. Again I think the fact that so many casual fans are here often makes it very amusing and lighthearted and not chained down with quibbles on "force-chokes", just kidding (a thread on here) - see that's the humor.
I kind of think of that Statue of Liberty thing...bring us your tired, your sick, your poor...
Well I guess, stuff like this makes me be defensive and I am trying to wax poetic, but I love when a new person posts here we say, "welcome home" and not bash them for being "newbies" with inferior intelligence or quip "do a search" to them like other boards. I love this place.
So to all the haters... (jimbo help me out here, you're good at being crass...fill this in for me).
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<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>
<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>
<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>
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Originally posted by: Obi-wonton
Well I guess, stuff like this makes me be defensive and I am trying to wax poetic, but I love when a new person posts here we say, "welcome home" and not bash them for being "newbies" with inferior intelligence or quip "do a search" to them like other boards. I love this place.
That my friend is one of the best things about this board. I have asked many a noobish question and have not recieved any negative comments. That is truely refreshing, most boards on the net are choked with people that are very negative towards anything not them...
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What I do not support is the fact that others on MF.Com chose to use the thread to personally attack nidividuals on this site. That was uncalled for and represents the type of negative attitude that prompted my post in the first place. I have an issue with the overall viewpoin and the expression of it in the threads that I read, not the people who make them. I don't know any of you, at all, so all I have to work with are the comments that you leave. I can not and will not apologise for the comments of others, but I will take resposibility for bringing the whole thing up in the first place.
I do find it interesting to note that some of the people over here took to doing the same thing they accused those at MF.Com of doing. You speak of how cowardly it is to talk about someone behind their backs, yet instead of stepping foreward and defending your point of view where they can see it, you gathered together in your own corner to cast dispariging remarks in their direction. And again, while I was not mentioned by name at any time, I still feel responsible as it was my thread that got the ball rolling. I don't see any response at MF.Com to be any better than saying,
"they're just another sheep in the large flock on Skywalker Ranch.... and the only reason Lucas is keeping you around is for your wool...
but this is the last straw for Luke....
let the fanboys celebrate their defective 2004 editions.... after all its not like they know what the definition of quality is... they think the SE's are the way to go.... "
That is just as arrogant and insulting as anything said at MF.Com and only serves to add fuel to an already unecessary fire.
This is not what I intended when I started the thread. If anyone here took offense to it then I apologise for that. I still believe in my viewpoint however, and I believe that the very essence of this site is less about a love for Star Wars than it is a dislike for the SE's and the PT. I applaud your opinions and the way you stick by them, I just dissagree that making personla attacks on GL, or throwing negative labels at anyone who does not share the same point of view should be rewarded. I have made similar statements at MF.Com, and I will take responsibility over there as well. If you guys are gonna bash anyone, just bash me and get it over with. But don't turn this into some stupid thing with another message board, that's a really infantile.
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Star Wars and strong emotion.
Star Wars isnt just a movie, it is and was the first cultural phenomenon of its kind. I like many other who grew up with it have been fans longer than our memories go back. When you buy into something with this much furver, as many of us have spending mind boggling amounts of time and money on it, it becomes almost a part of who we are. Then when somebody tells you that you opinion doesnt matter, and in your mind screws up that thing you are naturally inclined to be a little miffed. Do i think anyone on these boards wish GL death, or personal harm? No, of course not. They are passe little comments on a INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD, ment to convey the amount of disappointment and frustration many of us have due to the (miss)handling of these movies over the years. I would greatly perfer people getting off there high horses (on both sides) and realize that whether you are bashing GL or bashing others it is all the same. Further more, realize that this is the internet and all of the dialogue being had here should be taken with a grain of salt.
O-OT VS. SE and Beyond
In the end this is all a matter of opinion. The thing i hate is how one side seems to overwhelmingly judge the other when they actively due the same thing. Us purist are given this bad rap on the boards i have visisted, slighted and gossiped about for our strong views. But gushers do the same things we do just the opinion is different, but it is ok? Its like the ACLU and Christens... The ACLU spends all there time alienating Christians talking about how jusdgemental they are, and how unexceptable the faith is especially if they tell people something is wrong, when the whole time the ACLU is doing exact same thing, being judgemental and telling people they are wrong***.
Also please dont patronize me with the whole
Quote. That is simply rediculous. The reason people are so passionate about the movies is due to there love for them. Do you think members here would spend large amounts of there time and money trying to restore and perseve something they hate? Nor does any one here lack the
I believe that the very essence of this site is less about a love for Star Wars than it is a dislike for the SE's and the PT
Quoteas tlbauerle states. we just have a different taste in movies, a better one in our minds, though i am sure you would believe the same of your camp.
"ability to be satisfied with anything"
In closer i would say one thing before you make any more statements such as
Quotei would look at your own post and those of your comrads over at MF.com...
I don't think I've seen a nastier, more malicious group of individuals
peace...
*** This is just an example that came to mind while i was typing, please dont let this interupt the current topic and bleed into a religous/political mudsling fest. we can do that in another forum, or on pms
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The OT.com (for the most part, there are always exceptions!) can pride itself on the fact that we are all rallied around a central and important cause. I think you would be hard pressed to find a more dedicated, intelligent and mature bunch of Star Wars fans. I think its ironic when other sites label us as being 'facists' simply for having an opinion that differs to their own. Here's an idea, don't visit the site! You don't believe what we believe? To quote Morpheus, "my belief does not require them to".
In the words of Eric Cartman, "I love you guys!"
Lets move on shall we.
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But don't turn this into some stupid thing with another message board, that's a really infantile.
this coming from someone who has to bad mouth another's cause behind their backs....
pathetic...
you complain about our lucas bashing and we complain about your lucas loving...
so just go back to your site
we already have enough Lucas PRAISING fanboys here...
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Originally posted by: MagnoliaFan
I'm beginning to wonder if the boards should be moderated, and postings/threads that involve open bashing and badmouthing of people/sites, with no real discussion having to do with the films, should just be shipped off to the Off Topic forum.
*blink*
*blink*blink*
And that, MagFan, is why I love you.
I hate to think of these boards having some heavy fisted moderation like many other places I've been to, but the personal attacks on people simply because they do/don't hate Lucas or do/don't hate the SE's or PT has been reaching insane proportions.