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Just to make sure I have this right, Warbler is castling queen-side. Is that correct? And how do you castle in Zillions?

Yes, I am castling queen-side.    As to how to castle in Zillions, I've got no idea what you are talking about.

Thanks. The latter bit would be a question for ender, since it's the program both he and I are using.

Just click and hold your king, drag him over two spaces queen side, and the game will automatically move the rook I believe.  I should have set up a diagram so I could play this with you while at work.

There we go. Thanks.

Diagram:

r---k--r

ppp---pp

--nb--q-

----pb--

--------

--NPBQ--

PPP--P-P

--KR--NR

Gosh, thanks for doing that again.  And once again I was unable to take advantage of it because I was just overwhelmed.  I only just got home, and I even skipped my lunch break.  I only had time to write that single comment today.  I'm working in the area that's supposed to be slower, too, but it just isn't lately.  I've got some hard patients.

Anyway, what amounts to probably my most stressful day at this job is finally over.  Bg4

Well, this game is over.   No matter what I do, I am going to end up with too much of a disadvantage to have any chance against you.  I resign.   Boy, did I stink up the board.   I am not sure which performed worse, me in this chess game, or the Broncos offense in the Super Bowl.   : (  

Warbler, it's a trade of Bishop for Rook.  Though certainly putting you at a disadvantage, it's not the end of the game yet.  And I would rather let you take your castling move back than end the game yet.  I really enjoy playing you and don't want you to give up yet. :(

I can't take back the move and, knowing the abilities of my opponent,  I am 100% certain that a trade of a Bishop for a Rook would doom me.   I've played you enough to know that I would be unable to overcome the disadvantage. 

actually, I have reexamined the board and I like to change my mind!   I would like to keep playing, with your permission.   I would like to continue playing from after your last move of Bg4.   Before you grant permission, you should know that my move will be: Qxb7.

never mind this, when I reexamine the board and posted this, I had the board set up wrong.   Somehow, after my last move of 0-0-0 and after I decided to resign, I moved your knight on c6 back to it's starting position on my board.  With your knight on c6, Qxb7 is of course illegal.   My resignation is still enforce.  

I would permit that if it were legal.  But I believe my knight is on c6.  You certainly would have my permission, even if you played a devastating move I'd overlooked, but I don't believe that will work unless I've made some error somewhere.  You are welcome if you want to try something else.

Or if you prefer, we can try another handicapped game, this time setting me at a bigger disadvantage.

Or we can try a chess variant, as I've suggested in that thread I started.  I've always been interested in trying more variants but have had few opportunities.  Your odds might be better at those games, considering I'm much less experienced at them (meaning, my experience is limited entirely to my classic chess theory that may or may not be applicable to the variant).

It's up to you :)

yeah, after I realized my mistake,  I edited my post(post 410 of this thread).   Sorry about that. 

As for a chess variant, I don't think I've got a board and pieces capable of playing those. 

If I were to show you where to get the appropriate software, would you be willing to try a variant?

I've heard of it, but never tried it.  If I'm not mistaken, you play by offering a move which your opponent may accept or reject.  If he rejects, you then make a different move which he must accept.  Is that the one?  It honestly sounded like too much trouble, but you have offered a positive view which interests me.  Tell me why you enjoy it so much.

darth_ender said:

If I were to show you where to get the appropriate software, would you be willing to try a variant?

 I'm not sure.  

darth_ender said:

I've heard of it, but never tried it.  If I'm not mistaken, you play by offering a move which your opponent may accept or reject.  If he rejects, you then make a different move which he must accept.  Is that the one?  It honestly sounded like too much trouble, but you have offered a positive view which interests me.  Tell me why you enjoy it so much.

 I would have to assume the first move you offer would have to be accepted, if it is the only legal move possible. 

Yes, definitely.

How exactly does this work? You offer a move which would be made my one of your pieces or your opponent's?

Your own.  Say I wanted to pin your queen with my bishop.  I could offer that move, but then my opponent would have the option to tell me to do something else.  Obviously this can present great difficulty to both players when they have one particular option they'd prefer to make, but are forced to make another.

I see. So the trick would be to present what looks like a good move for you (but bad for the other player), have them reject it, and make a better move.

Indeed, if such an option is available.  But how often is that really the case?

I suppose not very often...but you in such a game it would be wise to set yourself up that way (though your opponent being able to reject your moves could make that difficult).

You know, when I read about it all those years ago, it just sounded frustrating.  But thinking about it now, it does sound like it could be really interesting.  Have you ever read...ah heck, let's take this discussion over to my chess variants thread so it can get more use.