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I Posted this first over in the General Star Wars Discussion Forum

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Wed June 16, 2004 9:55 PM



Finally finished watching the torrent files of Star Wars. I watched those and the TR47 set back to back. I also did some side by side comparisons to really check stuff out. So here it goes.....

In picture quality the TR47 set comes out just a bit on top. Colors look a little better and the entire picture is a bit crisper when compared to the anamorphic set. Both sets seemed a bit soft to me. I wanted to check these against the laserdisc set I used to have but I can’t find those anywhere. I may have sold them. At any rate the laserdiscs may have been just as soft in focus. The Anamorphic set came out a bit weird on the anamorphic too. It seemed to me to be off as far as framing goes. It looked closer to somewhere around 2:00.1 as compared to 2:35.1. This could just be the set I downloaded and not the sets that are floating around here. I'm not sure of that but that is what I got out of it when played on my TV.

Final judgment on video...I would go with either set. As the video goes they both look good. Personally I like the TR47 set better but if you’re that concerned about hitting zoom on your remote just get the anamorphic. The improper framing on my set really wasn't even that big of a deal it was just something I noticed and wanted to point out to people. Again it could just be my set. Oh and yes the “Leia welding scene” IS missing from the anamorphic set.

As far as sound the TR47 set blows away the anamorphic set. It's a no contest here. The TR47 had a better sound stage presence with clean sweeps and pan from channel to channel. The anamorphic set was a bit hollow in its sound and seemed a bit forced to the rear speakers. It was weak when it even did appear in the rear channels, which wasn’t often enough for my liking. With a Prologic II receiver the TR47 set sound really close to a 5.1 mix (or as close as you will get in a bootleg) where as the anamorphic set sounds like a plain old vanilla surround mix that occasionally graces us with some sound out of the rear channels. Not much better than I get out of my VHS set to be honest with you.

As far bonus stuff goes...I should say up front that I hate bonus stuff. I really don't care much for it and never have. Now occasionally something will grab my interest but most of the time it's the same old crap over and over again. I would much rather see a movie only version of everything that just maxes out the sound and video presentation and doesn’t squeeze it onto a disc with bonus stuff. Again this is just my opinion. So with that it would be very unfair for me to judge this stuff. It's really the same on both sets with the exception of the commentary on the anamorphic set. You can all guess what I think of that just from what I wrote above so it's really up to you to decide on weather or not you need a commentary track from what I hear isn’t even a full on commentary track. (No I didn’t even listen to it)

WITH EVERYTHING SAID AND DONE...
The TR47 set was superior in both Video and Audio quality. However the video is only a slight step up from the anamorphic set. The anamorphic set does have the bonus feature of the commentary track but it severely sacrifices sound quality for this little thing. The bonus fourth disc is the same on both but in all honesty I didn't even bother trying to find the fourth disc for the anamorphic set so I’m not really sure if it is the same. Perhaps someone else knows about that.

So what it really comes down to is how well your TV can handle zoom. If you can handle that well or have a DLP/LCD front projector you should probably go with the TR47 set. If bonus stuff really concerns you go with the other set. Both sets are really nice representations of the original Star Wars movies with a few differences in between. The question is how big of a fan boy are you? Do you want one or both? All I know is that I'm really sick of Star Wars now. I have watched way too much of it in the past three days.

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M&K V-1250 THX Subwoofer
Infinity 12” Subwoofer (BU-120)
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M&K LCR-750 THX Front (X2)
M&K 750-THX Center (X2 - one in front and one in rear)
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Greetings. First time caller, long time listener... wait thats something else entirely...

Anyway, Rowman mentions that he knows TR47 uses high quality media and he is not sure what media Rikter uses but has had no problems.

Can someone explain why the media quality matters? It seems to me that since we're talking digital - 1's and 0's - that as long the player can read those binary digits then the quality will be defined by those digits, not by the media.

I'm sure I'm wrong, but I'd like to understand why...

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Can anyone help me. I believe I have the TR47 version, as my discs look great and have the exact same chapter stops as listed at prillamen.net, as well as uncompressed PCM audio. I checked my paypal account and found I purchased my set for $35 in March 2003 from Fred S (fred@cowclops.com) - is this you TR47? The discs are great with the exception that there are one or two parts where the side change takes a little too long (black screen for several seconds). Anyway, I just came across this board and was curious if anyone recognized that email address. I will most likely be contacting NYC to get the anamorphic version as well.
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Hi, I am new to this forum and have just signed the petition.

I am in need of obtaining a bootleg set but I am un-sure as to which set to go with, I've read on this forum that the TK47 set seems to be the best to go for at the moment in quality and sound wise, but as I've also read he only ships in the US and I live in the UK so thats a set back for me.

Is there anyone here willing to do copies of their TK47 sets for me? or does anyone know where I can obtain them from?

Any help/information would be most appreciated, thanks.
Give us the original theatrical versions on DVD!
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I am now shipping internationally, so if you are interested please email me at tr47@burntmail.com
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Okay thanks, I will be emailing you momentarily

TR47 check your mail.....
Give us the original theatrical versions on DVD!
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Hi TR47, is there possibly another way I could pay for your sets because after reading through this website http://www.paypalsucks.com/ I don't really want to use PayPal, sorry for any inconvenience.

Give us the original theatrical versions on DVD!
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Originally posted by: Original Star Wars
Hi, I am new to this forum and have just signed the petition.

I am in need of obtaining a bootleg set but I am un-sure as to which set to go with, I've read on this forum that the TK47 set seems to be the best to go for at the moment in quality and sound wise, but as I've also read he only ships in the US and I live in the UK so thats a set back for me.

Is there anyone here willing to do copies of their TK47 sets for me? or does anyone know where I can obtain them from?

Any help/information would be most appreciated, thanks.



I can do you a copy of the original trilogy, widescreen letterbox, 5.1 dolby surround and most of the definitive edition extras on a 4th disc if you want it. And it includes the Leia welding scene in ESB.
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Prillaman has received an Anamorphic dvdr set of the Original Trilogy, a review of which will be done in the coming week. Anyone interested can find info here:-

http://www.prillaman.net/starwarsdvdreview-bootleg5.html
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Here's my reviwe on the TR47 DVDs.

The picture is great. It is the only bootleg set I own, so I can't compare to others.
But compared to my laserdiscs, they are far better!
This is because, I'm sure, my laserdisc player is NOT top notch. In fact, it's pretty low end. So this was a personal improvement for me, thanks to crappy laserdisc player.
The picture quality looks AWESOME on my 32" TV.
When watchin on PC, you can tell it isn't DVD perfect. But that can't be helped as they are sourced from laserdiscs.
No complaints about picture.

The sound is awesome. Listening to them through my father's obsessivly modified speak system, they sound like nothing I've heard before. Best sounding Star Wars I've heard.

There are no extras or menus. But that's worth it to make sure that the films themselves have the maximum quality possible.

I would HIGHLY recommend the TR47 set to anyone looking for bootlegs.

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anyone know how TR47's would look on a 100" screen??
"Never. I'll never turn to the darkside. You've failed your highness. I am a jedi, like my father before me."
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Please contact me for more info.
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The plan is in the works but it won't happen until at least the end of the year, due to the cost and compatibility problems of DVD9 blanks.
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As I've said before, any relevant news will be posted to this forum firsthand.
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Just a thought:

For a future DVDr release (be it Dual Layered or otherwise), I think it'd be a good idea to have 50 chapter stops.
It'd match up with the prequels and even SE DVD in Sept.

If said DVDr release is after Sept, you might even want to make the stops be in the same places and have the same names as the official set.

Minor thought.

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How do I know which bootleg I have?

I have set of three discs that I downloaded as torrents, they have menus and commentary tracks. I feel like they are a little fuzzy. Is this the anamorphics set everyone is talking about?

Does anyone know if a torrent for the better quality version is out there on the web right now?
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How do I know which bootleg I have?

I have set of three discs that I downloaded as torrents, they have menus and commentary tracks. I feel like they are a little fuzzy. Is this the anamorphics set everyone is talking about?

Does anyone know if a torrent for the better quality version is out there on the web right now?
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Yes. You have the anamorphic version. The TR47 version has slightly better picture quality (though not anamorphic) and way better sound quality (sans the commentary). Squeezing in the extra stuff takes away from the overall quality. If you can do without the bells and whistles, the TR47 set is definitely the way to go.
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Thanks RowMan!

Do you know the best way to get TR47 versions.

Are there any live torrents of them.
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By the way if anyone is interested, the torrents for the versions I have are running well. Go here if you are intrerested.

You need bitTorrent or some other torrent program.


http://novamesi.com.ar/23.htm
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