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Originally posted by: Guy Caballero
Here's a dumb question: Just got a plasma TV. Will having a dvd player with HDMI/"upconverting" make any difefrence in how these discs will look?
Here's a dumb question: Just got a plasma TV. Will having a dvd player with HDMI/"upconverting" make any difefrence in how these discs will look?
I have a dvd plaer that "upconverts" to a 50" DLP. While it may vary depending on the quality of the dvd player, from my own experience I think "upconversion" is a double-edged sword. It makes good transfers look better, but unfortunately makes bad ones look even worse.
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Originally posted by: Guy Caballero
This is sort of related: On the dvd documentary, there are several clips from Jedi that look really good, and they have the burned-in film subtitles, so they're not from the dvd, or the old laserdiscs. Where did they come from? I only wish the dvds would look that good.
It must be a theatrical print. But, didn't the SE DVD have burned-in subtitles? This is sort of related: On the dvd documentary, there are several clips from Jedi that look really good, and they have the burned-in film subtitles, so they're not from the dvd, or the old laserdiscs. Where did they come from? I only wish the dvds would look that good.
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There is no lingerie in space…
C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.
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Originally posted by: Guy Caballero
This is sort of related: On the dvd documentary, there are several clips from Jedi that look really good, and they have the burned-in film subtitles, so they're not from the dvd, or the old laserdiscs. Where did they come from? I only wish the dvds would look that good.
This is sort of related: On the dvd documentary, there are several clips from Jedi that look really good, and they have the burned-in film subtitles, so they're not from the dvd, or the old laserdiscs. Where did they come from? I only wish the dvds would look that good.
Probably from the film master that GL is too stubborn to use *sighs*
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Originally posted by: Windexed
I have a dvd plaer that "upconverts" to a 50" DLP. While it may vary depending on the quality of the dvd player, from my own experience I think "upconversion" is a double-edged sword. It makes good transfers look better, but unfortunately makes bad ones look even worse.
Originally posted by: Guy Caballero
Here's a dumb question: Just got a plasma TV. Will having a dvd player with HDMI/"upconverting" make any difefrence in how these discs will look?
Here's a dumb question: Just got a plasma TV. Will having a dvd player with HDMI/"upconverting" make any difefrence in how these discs will look?
I have a dvd plaer that "upconverts" to a 50" DLP. While it may vary depending on the quality of the dvd player, from my own experience I think "upconversion" is a double-edged sword. It makes good transfers look better, but unfortunately makes bad ones look even worse.
Exactly. Upconverting is really only going to magnify what's already on the disc. If the disc looked great to begin with, it'll look great upconverted. If it looked awful, well, it'll still look awful when upconverted. I wouldn't wager this will look to hot upconverted if they haven't done any restoration.
On a regular 4x3 tube it should look fine. But, I think the widescreen HD crowd is screwed. After all, they're only "bonus material" :rolleyes
The biggest advantage of the HDMI connection is the fact that the siganl is kept purely in the digital domain, without the possible degeneration attendant to the digital-to-analog and back again conversion process when using analog cables.
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
You mean the 2004 DVDs? No, sadly, those subtitles were very obviously not burned in, especially since the subtitles appear in the matte, which isn't even part of the picture.
You mean the 2004 DVDs? No, sadly, those subtitles were very obviously not burned in, especially since the subtitles appear in the matte, which isn't even part of the picture.
Oh, OK. I only watched them once, just to hear the commentaries.
What happens if you watch the SE DVDs on a widescreen TV? Do the subtitles still show up in the black area? (I just have a 4:3 TV). I guess what I'm asking is, are the subtitles "fixed" on the SE DVDs (like on the laserdiscs) or do they change position based on what kind of TV you watch them on?
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There is no lingerie in space…
C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.
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There is no lingerie in space…
C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.
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Display and format technologies are moving rapidly towards 16:9 HD. And you can bet your ass the PT and the SE will be out on super-duper-high-def-DTS-three-squillion-disc-ultimate-ultimate-ultimate-edition-box-sets before you can say "dollars"!
Lucas, being the technological fetishist that he is, will no doubt be drooling over such developments daily.
If the last ever official release of the OOT is allowed to be a 4:3 letterbox transfer from Laserdisc then it will be doomed to being 'satisfactory'! So it's better than VHS? I still won't be buying the September releases!
I say tell LFL and Fox to stick their DVDs and I say intensify the pressure!
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<blockquote>Originally posted by: BadAssKeith
You are passing up on a great opportunity to makes lots of money,
make Lucas lose a lot of his money
and make him look bad to the entire world
and you could be well known and liked
None of us here like Lucas or Lucasfilm.
I have death wishes on Lucas and Macullum.
we could all probably get 10s of thousands of dollars!
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The Abyss: (probably the best Cameron movie ever!) it is also a 4/3 mastered dvd, but here you can tell that it is a LD master transfer; the picture is really blurry (specially when there is high contrasts in the image, like the openning sequence in the USS Montana), it's a shame that this movie never had a 16/9 release on dvd!
It will get an anamorphic release eventually. And I agree that The Abyss is much underrated. Top notch commercial filmaking.
They'll never be released in DTS.
It will get an anamorphic release eventually. And I agree that The Abyss is much underrated. Top notch commercial filmaking.
They'll never be released in DTS.
Never say never.
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Originally posted by: THX
Mike, please explain how "Even on a 4:3 set, anamorphic offers increased resolution" (AFAIK, there are some 4:3 sets that can squeeze their horizontal lines together in the center, thus taking advantage of anamorphic discs, but the majority cannot).
Mike, please explain how "Even on a 4:3 set, anamorphic offers increased resolution" (AFAIK, there are some 4:3 sets that can squeeze their horizontal lines together in the center, thus taking advantage of anamorphic discs, but the majority cannot).
I have a 20" Sony Wega (4:3), with a widescreen mode. The widescreen mode is supposed to cram all the resolution lines into the 16:9 area. On the few occasions that I've used it, I really didn't see a difference. However, on a larger set, I think the widescreen mode would make a difference.
But yeah, otherwise on a 4:3 set without a widescreen mode, I don't think you'd see a difference between an anamorphic DVD and a letterboxed one.
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Originally posted by: zombie84
Is the Abyss DVD actuall from the LD??
If they went to the trouble of making a DVD transfer, I can't see why they wouldn't make it anamorphic. The movie was first released on DVD in 2000 and they definitely knew about 16x9 enhancement at the time.Is the Abyss DVD actuall from the LD??
I believe the official line was that Fox wanted to make a new transfer of The Abyss, but James Cameron declined and said the current one (presumably from the LD) was fine. Actually, this happened again with the Alien Quadrilogy set. Fox did new transfers of every film except Aliens because Cameron said he was happy with the old, grainy transfer from the first DVD release (which was anamorphic by the way).
Actually, a LD transfer doesn't mean it will look that bad. The current edition of George Stevens' Giant is taken from the laserdisc and it looks pretty decent. The main problem with it is that there was some really dreadful edge enhancement added to it. I'm hoping the source Lucasfilm is using for SW is one before they applied filters, etc. to it.
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Originally posted by: THX
Except maybe more compression artifacts.
I shouldn't lock horns with a guy named THX on AV issues,
but doesn't anamorphic offer a 33% resolution increase regardless? Even on my computer screen the anamorphic picture looks crisper. If I am wrong, which is most likely, then I apologize and will edit my post. Thanks for the corrections! And Thanks for sticking up for me Meler.
I believe the official line was that Fox wanted to make a new transfer of The Abyss, but James Cameron declined and said the current one (presumably from the LD) was fine. Actually, this happened again with the Alien Quadrilogy set. Fox did new transfers of every film except Aliens because Cameron said he was happy with the old, grainy transfer from the first DVD release (which was anamorphic by the way).
Except maybe more compression artifacts.
I shouldn't lock horns with a guy named THX on AV issues,
but doesn't anamorphic offer a 33% resolution increase regardless? Even on my computer screen the anamorphic picture looks crisper. If I am wrong, which is most likely, then I apologize and will edit my post. Thanks for the corrections! And Thanks for sticking up for me Meler.I believe the official line was that Fox wanted to make a new transfer of The Abyss, but James Cameron declined and said the current one (presumably from the LD) was fine. Actually, this happened again with the Alien Quadrilogy set. Fox did new transfers of every film except Aliens because Cameron said he was happy with the old, grainy transfer from the first DVD release (which was anamorphic by the way).
Perhaps Cameron simply does not want to take the time. Why not get some other help? Van Ling made the T2 Extreme disc look great. Ah, well. I'm sure that there will be new transfers somewhere down the road, proboably soon given the fact Cameron is finally back in the director's chair. And the Aliens disc doesn't look too bad. It's not up to scratch with reference quality material, but it looks better than many DVDs out there. Did you ever have the misfortune of seeing the abysmal transfer of The Wild Bunch on WBs first disc. I gained whole new appreciation for the film and it masterful cinematography upon see the new disc.
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Originally posted by: Mike O
...doesn't anamorphic offer a 33% resolution increase regardless? Even on my computer screen the anamorphic picture looks crisper.
That's because your computer has enough resolution to display all that an anamorphic DVD has to offer, unlike the majority of 4:3 CRT sets. The 33% resolution increase is lost when anamorphic discs are displayed on a regular 4:3 TV, sometimes by simply discarding every 4th line (which obviously leads to a less accurate picture). There simply aren't enough lines in the letterboxed area to display the increased resolution on the disc. The exception to this is in sets with a "widescreen" mode like the one Mielr described above, which squeezes the lines closer together in the center of the screen, so you can see all the resolution. However, most sets don't have this feature. The compression artifacts thing was kind of facetious, although anamorphic discs do require more compression. For these reasons, though, most viewers (i.e. those with 4:3 sets without "widescreen" modes) will actually get a better image from a letterboxed disc (especially in the case of a letterboxed master). None of this is intended as an excuse for the September discs, which should be a new anamorphic transfer. ...doesn't anamorphic offer a 33% resolution increase regardless? Even on my computer screen the anamorphic picture looks crisper.