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J.J. Abrams is becoming the next Gene Roddenberry.

Paramount is breathing life into its "Star Trek" franchise by setting "Mission: Impossible III" helmer J.J. Abrams to produce and direct the 11th "Trek" feature, aiming for a 2008 release.

Damon LindelofDamon Lindelof and Bryan Burk, Abrams' producing team from "Lost," also will produce the yet-to-be-titled feature.

Project, to be penned by Abrams and "MI3" scribes Alex Kurtzman and Roberto OrciRoberto Orci, will center on the early days of seminal "Trek" characters James T. Kirk and Mr. Spock, including their first meeting at Starfleet Academy and first outer space mission.

Deal reflects ParPar's bullishness on "MI3," which launches worldwide next weekend, and underlines the goal of Paramount chief Brad Grey and prexyprexy Gail BermanGail Berman to re-energize the pipeline via high-profile tentpoles while revitalizing the Par brand with top-tier talent such as Abrams.

"MI3" is the first pic to be released that's been greenlit by Grey.

"Star Trek" has been Hollywood's most durable performer other than James Bond, spawning 10 features that have grossed more than $1 billion and 726 TV episodes from six series.

Decision to relaunch "Star Trek" comes less than a year after UPNUPN pulled the plug on "Star Trek: Enterprise""Star Trek: Enterprise" amid dismal ratings following a four-season run and four years after "Star Trek: Nemesis""Star Trek: Nemesis" turned in the worst performance of the 10 films with $43 million domestic.

Original series created by Roddenberry launched in 1966 on NBC and ended in 1969.

During the following decade, the original 78 episodes of "Trek" became staples in syndication and helped mobilize the fan base along with conventions, books and merchandise. Paramount released "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" in 1979 and saw domestic grosses hit $82 million. The next three films grossed a combined $263 million domestically, so Paramount started the second TV series, "The Next Generation," in 1987, with Rick Berman and Roddenberry co-exec producing.

Under Sherry Lansing's tenure, Rick Berman had been teamed several years ago with Jordan Kerner and Kerry McCluggage to develop an 11th feature set in the early days of Starfleet Academy.
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No, no, no, no, no, No, NO NO!!!!

Who can you possibly get to play James Kirk and Spock besides Shatner and Nimoy?? If they found the flippin' Fountain of Youth and made both men 20 years old again, they shouldn't do this movie.

I think we all knew that Hollywood's nut was cracked, but this plums the depths of complete lunacy.
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I imagine that since the characters are portrayed as being younger, they will have different actors playing the parts. I can't really see this movie being all that great, but it may help steer the franchise into a new direction, as the TNG-era movies have been played out.
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Originally posted by: TR47
I imagine that since the characters are portrayed as being younger, they will have different actors playing the parts.
That is obvious...

Perhaps I should rephrase:
Can you tell me what current actor you could see playing Kirk?
Can you tell me what current actor you could see playing Spock?

See, I believe that the performances are so unique and defined already that either there will be no success finding actors to fill the roles OR they will butcher the roles to fit the actors they find.
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Originally posted by: starkiller
Originally posted by: TR47
I imagine that since the characters are portrayed as being younger, they will have different actors playing the parts.
That is obvious...

Perhaps I should rephrase:
Can you tell me what current actor you could see playing Kirk?
Can you tell me what current actor you could see playing Spock?

See, I believe that the performances are so unique and defined already that either there will be no success finding actors to fill the roles OR they will butcher the roles to fit the actors they find.


I will have a difficult time seeing someone else play these roles, and I understand the necessity of it given the story. This was not the way to go, IMO, especially because Paramount yanked Enterprise last year stating the franchise was suffering from fatigue. Should wait until 2010, then go in a completely new direction, including tossing the canon of the spinoff series' out the window along with the utopian worldview crap...wipe out the Federation and have to build from square one again.
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Originally posted by: JediSage
Should wait until 2010, then go in a completely new direction, including tossing... out the window.. the utopian worldview crap..


Amen. Am I the only one who physically cringes when Picard gives that stupid speach about how great the world is to Max in "First Contact"?? If I were writing that flick, I would have had Max be so skeptical that she FORCED Picard to admit that society wasn't perfect.

Because that's impossible--surely Gene Roddenbury knew this.

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I'm still holding out hope for a Babylon 5 movie. I loved both TNG and B5, but I especially loved how screwed up the universe was in the B5 story. Could it have been better? Sure. But talk about getting blood from a stone, B5 did it. ST lost me at DS9 and, with the lone exception of First Contact, failed to keep my interest at the box office. And the last one? What a great premise wasted on a horrible screenplay and even worse direction.
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The last one was a bad remake of Wrath of Khan with the next generation crew. I almost expected them to do another TNG movie, one that would be a bad knockoff of Search for Spock to bring Data back.

The new movie can't be good in the end. the only good thing one can say about it is that it is something different. Which is better than you can say about Nemesis.
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This accursed Starfleet Academy idea has been around festering for so long, it's become the Jason Vorhees of Trek movie scripts! A Capt. Pike era film could have been cool since a young Spock served aboard the Enterprise then.
And Paramount excecs should be soundly flogged for not having something ready this year, the freaking 40th anniversary!
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wow, that really does suck. i think they should change that WHOLE direction, and create a series same idea at starfleet, but that takes place after DS9 and voyager, like just after, start a new.
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I'd like to see a movie about the Romulan Wars! How did they happen? What happened? Why? They mention it so often in the original series, and I thought that was going to be what would have eventually happened in ST:ENT. Of course, I was wrong, but I'd still like to know.
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Romulan Wars would have been interesting, except that Enterprise created conflict with TOS.

TOS mentioned that the entire war was fought without the benefit of viewscreens...that the Federation had never see a Romulan (by extension, you'd think they'd never seen a Romulan ship as well). Well, Enterprise had a viewscreen and saw at least 2 different Romulan ships.

The movie I'd like to see would be based on Deep Space Nine. Bring back Sisko with a warning from the Prophets about something.
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Well, you could suggest that by the time of the Romulan Wars, space ship production was more important than certain conveniences, so they left off the viewscreens to make more ships faster.


As for Nemesis... I actually liked it a bit better than "Wrath of Khan" though it may be because I'm more partial to the TNG crew.

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This idea is total and utter bullshit and hopefully will die a full and early death.

If they want Kirk-esque adventures (and who wouldn't... I remember watching the first episodes of TNG and wondering how Picard et al would be able to stick flowers into the gun barrels of their enemies... but oh wait they wouldn't have time because they had to have a 45 minute board meeting to discuss the problem) they should consider mining the Peter David novels in the 'Star Trek New Frontier' series.

They're the only Trek novels I've ever read (at least the first few) as a friend had recommended I check them out knowing how much I dig Kirk- and I wasn't disappointed! Fun sarcastic adventure without being too over-the-top snarky. Good stuff and reasonably separate from all the other ST nonsense going on. Hell the only TNG or after Trek show I ever dug was DS9 which became interesting after the first season or so.

Here's a list from an Amazon user of the 'New Frontier' novels:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/richpub/listmania/fullview/1EBIT1AYZWZLN/103-9029226-2566265?%5Fencoding=UTF8
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Well, you could suggest that by the time of the Romulan Wars, space ship production was more important than certain conveniences, so they left off the viewscreens to make more ships faster.


As for Nemesis... I actually liked it a bit better than "Wrath of Khan" though it may be because I'm more partial to the TNG crew.


i argee, maybe not as good as khan, but it was one of the better ST movies by a long shot. the only ST movie better the Khan was first contact.
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Originally posted by: Shimraa
the only ST movie better the Khan was first contact.



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Originally posted by: starkiller
Romulan Wars would have been interesting, except that Enterprise created conflict with TOS.

TOS mentioned that the entire war was fought without the benefit of viewscreens...that the Federation had never see a Romulan (by extension, you'd think they'd never seen a Romulan ship as well). Well, Enterprise had a viewscreen and saw at least 2 different Romulan ships.

The movie I'd like to see would be based on Deep Space Nine. Bring back Sisko with a warning from the Prophets about something.


They could of had viewscreens, seen a Romulan ship, and not seen a Romulan themselves. How do you fight a war and never see anyone? I would think that fighting a war, you would have to be able to see the enemy ships and vice-versa, otherwise how do you fight?
Although I agree a Romulan war movie would be good if done correctly, I would fear it would become "Enterprise: the Movie" or something. You have no familiar people in the Romulan war, unless you say that the crew from Enterprise was in it. But since Enterprise has already badly contridicted the other series enough. I don't think they could do a Romulan war movie correctly, even without the Enterprise crew.
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Originally posted by: greencapt
Originally posted by: Shimraa
the only ST movie better the Khan was first contact.



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HOW IS FIRST CONTACT BAD!!!!
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Originally posted by: sean wookie
Originally posted by: greencapt
Originally posted by: Shimraa
the only ST movie better the Khan was first contact.



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HOW IS FIRST CONTACT BAD!!!!


exactly, first contact is a really solid movie.
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Originally posted by: Shimraa


HOW IS FIRST CONTACT BAD!!!!


exactly, first contact is a really solid movie.


I didn't say it was *bad* and if by solid you mean 'not total crap' then sure. I saw it in the theater thinking 'meh that was entertaining for the last last two hours' but found it totally forgettable after the fact. I personally saw nothing incredibly moving about it as a movie- I saw it as more of a decent episode of the TV series, albeit a long one.

But on par with 'Kahn'? Not in my opinion. But you know what they say about opinions.
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Originally posted by: greencapt
Originally posted by: Shimraa


HOW IS FIRST CONTACT BAD!!!!


exactly, first contact is a really solid movie.


I didn't say it was *bad* and if by solid you mean 'not total crap' then sure. I saw it in the theater thinking 'meh that was entertaining for the last last two hours' but found it totally forgettable after the fact. I personally saw nothing incredibly moving about it as a movie- I saw it as more of a decent episode of the TV series, albeit a long one.

But on par with 'Kahn'? Not in my opinion. But you know what they say about opinions.


To quote Max Von Sydow from Needful Things..."Finally. A man with some sense"

First Contact was good when it first came out as a space action movie. Now...who CARES???? It had a mediocre story that suffered from the same crap that ruined the franchise: Reset button ending, socialist worldview "everything was great once we gave up all our possessions" diatribe from Picard, bad acting (Troi's drunk scene was embarassingly bad), Time Travel AGAIN, Borg becoming a paper-tiger enemy, etc etc etc.

Generations was better than FC and it was pedestrian at best.

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what wow someone is inlove with the original, there is no way generations was better then FC
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Originally posted by: Number20
Originally posted by: starkiller
Romulan Wars would have been interesting, except that Enterprise created conflict with TOS.

TOS mentioned that the entire war was fought without the benefit of viewscreens...that the Federation had never see a Romulan (by extension, you'd think they'd never seen a Romulan ship as well). Well, Enterprise had a viewscreen and saw at least 2 different Romulan ships.

The movie I'd like to see would be based on Deep Space Nine. Bring back Sisko with a warning from the Prophets about something.


They could of had viewscreens, seen a Romulan ship, and not seen a Romulan themselves. How do you fight a war and never see anyone? I would think that fighting a war, you would have to be able to see the enemy ships and vice-versa, otherwise how do you fight?
Two words:

Submarine Warfare.

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Originally posted by: starkillerTwo words:

Submarine Warfare.


True, but even in submarine warfare, you can get a pretty good idea what the enemy sub looks like via recon planes, maybe even sonar hits. I still don't see how you can do a space war and never see the enemy ships even once.

As for the First Contact arugument, I missed all the socalist world view stuff that JediSage talked about. But I will say that it is an ok movie, but mostly forgettable. the Time-Travel element has been overdone in Star Trek. Generations was horrible. Kirk shouldn't of died, and if he did have to, have him die in a better way than he did in Generations, to a better villian.
But to say that First Contact is better than Wrath of Khan, I just don't see it. Wrath of Khan was great.