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Never Say Never Again Eon Edition (* unfinished project *) — Page 2

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SilverWook said:

Thanks for the update. By going Grindhouse with it, are you trying to make it not look like a 1983 film?

Yeah, it's the 80's stuff that really ruins the film for me. It's not as overly 80's as the Dalton outings, but still. The film has a timeless look to it, in places. I don't really want to dirty it up too much. Just give it more of a technicolor hot look.

Is the credit sequence taking form yet? Watching the other Bonds has given me an idea or two...

Yes, I've got a bit of a still frame rough draft taking place. My main plan is something similar to OHMSS as kind of a greatest hits, but only the Connery ones. May include OHMSS, because I feel it's in the top 5.

I really need silhouettes for it. I'll see if I can get something. You cannot have Bond without silhouettes.

 

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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Personally, I think the movie looks bland enough that I don't think gritty-ing will do it any favors.  If anything, I propose doing some color correcting to try to bring a little more life to the images.

 

 

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On the subject of color correction: Sean Connery's skintone. Did they give him some sort of awful spray tan or something? I've always thought he looked orange in this film.

A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em

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Sorry guys. I was in the process of moving, so I was without internet for a good month. I pondered the suggestions of color correction and I think I might have to do it to the film.

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This is just a test of a screenshot. I hated how flourescent and cold they made M's office. So I decided to take it back to the warm incandescent office we got in the 60's. I also did a slight shift to the reds, and Connery looks so much better. The boost in contrast makes his toupee look less fake.

for some reason though, image shack always messes up the colors.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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I like the color correction, EyeShotFirst. I say go for it. It's harder to specifically identify the cinematography as distinctively from the mid-1980s with your CC.

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The Aluminum Falcon said:

I like the color correction, EyeShotFirst. I say go for it. It's harder to specifically identify the cinematography as distinctively from the mid-1980s with your CC.

Really, aside from a few overly 80's elements (video game, spandex exercise scene, so on) this movie has a fairly timeless style to it.

There is still a lot to work on. While it's silly to try to make this movie exclusively 60's, it's not a bad idea to try and give it the same essence. I don't mind some of the things that are 80's elements. It's the cliche 80's stuff. A good thing there wasn't a montage.

I'm impressed with how well they did the film considering they weren't allowed to do much. Most people couldn't do much better with free rein.

Yeah, I still like Thunderball more, but the effort in NSNA deserves some credit. Plus it's the only non Dalton 80's Bond movie that doesn't bash people in the head with silliness.

I'm still getting the hang of the editing. It's proving hard, because my computer is pretty dated, but little by little.

If I finish this year, it will coincide with the film's 30th anniversary.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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Good luck.  The CC looks nice and takes away from that bad tan look Connery had.

 

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Computer is on it's last leg. So, I'm going to have to either replace it or fix it. Replacing it is a better option. Not scrapping the project, but halting it.

I think the move really affected my computer. Maybe getting banged around in the truck. But, all good things must end. My hard drive is still fine, so that's a relief.

I'm planning on doing a build, one piece at time.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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Just found this thread, looking forward to following the progress!! Years ago someone did this, but from what I saw it wasn't my cup of tea.

This might be sacrilege, but check out Michael Giacchino's score to The Incredibles. VERY Barry.

 

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I'm back to work on it. The audio mix is going to have to be in stereo, unless I can figure out a way to mix surround on my computer that doesn't allow that option.

I am getting some badass progress on the intro. I'm getting some great results. It's not going to be an awesome intro like Goldfinger or From Russia With Love, but it should do the job.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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Use the MGM Blu-ray disc as a base, not the DVD. If you already are then good.

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If any one is interested Encore HD will show it tonight at 11:35 Eastern Daylight time.

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bump...any new updates?

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My computer just can't handle the work load. I don't want to say I quit, but I also don't want to get anybody's hopes up.

I still want to do it, I just can't until I can afford to. This computer might be good to do some simple cuts, but it cannot handle something this intense. All I can do at the moment is edit the audio blindly, and that's not a very good way of doing things.

I thought this computer could do it, but it protests doing the simplest things now. I'm strapped for cash at the moment. I was making good money when I started the project, but life kind of takes a dump on your finances sometimes.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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dlvh said:

bump...any new updates?

What exactly were you planning on doing really? Were you planning on doing a "Never Say McClory Again" type edit, or what? Did you have a set of music that you wanted/decided on using? 

Let me know..I may be able to help out. This project doesn't need a lot of color editing (IMHO) just maybe an overall warming-up, like you showed in one of your earlier posts....and a good Gun Barrel opening:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhYWiQMZ2kU 

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dlvh said:

dlvh said:

bump...any new updates?

What exactly were you planning on doing really? Were you planning on doing a "Never Say McClory Again" type edit, or what? Did you have a set of music that you wanted/decided on using? 

Let me know..I may be able to help out. This project doesn't need a lot of color editing (IMHO) just maybe an overall warming-up, like you showed in one of your earlier posts....and a good Gun Barrel opening:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhYWiQMZ2kU 

I was going to use the gun barrel from Thunderball, as it was actually Connery and it was shot in color.

Music wise I mostly grabbed a lot of music from the John Barry Seven and even from collections like the Ultra Lounge. I didn't want to stray far outside of the 60's music though. I feel it suites Connery's Bond. I was also going to keep some of the music that is already in the film, as it isn't all bad. It just needs some cues that remind you of what you are watching. Classic ones like Bond is Back, or 007, or even some from the under appreciated Lazenby Bond (which is probably the best Soundtrack for a Bond film).

I even have a CD called Basie Plays Bond that I pulled from. I even planned on having some cues from the Dr. No soundtrack to use for the bahamas scenes.

I just wanted to really scrub out as much of the 80's from the film. I wanted to find a way to cut out Rowan Atkinson, but watching it several times, I don't think I could. It's not that I don't like him as an actor, I cannot stand the character he played in the film. Should've been much more straight faced. He could've even been a good substitute for Q.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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EyeShotFirst said:

dlvh said:

dlvh said:

bump...any new updates?

What exactly were you planning on doing really? Were you planning on doing a "Never Say McClory Again" type edit, or what? Did you have a set of music that you wanted/decided on using? 

Let me know..I may be able to help out. This project doesn't need a lot of color editing (IMHO) just maybe an overall warming-up, like you showed in one of your earlier posts....and a good Gun Barrel opening:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhYWiQMZ2kU 

I was going to use the gun barrel from Thunderball, as it was actually Connery and it was shot in color.

Music wise I mostly grabbed a lot of music from the John Barry Seven and even from collections like the Ultra Lounge. I didn't want to stray far outside of the 60's music though. I feel it suites Connery's Bond. I was also going to keep some of the music that is already in the film, as it isn't all bad. It just needs some cues that remind you of what you are watching. Classic ones like Bond is Back, or 007, or even some from the under appreciated Lazenby Bond (which is probably the best Soundtrack for a Bond film).

I even have a CD called Basie Plays Bond that I pulled from. I even planned on having some cues from the Dr. No soundtrack to use for the bahamas scenes.

I just wanted to really scrub out as much of the 80's from the film. I wanted to find a way to cut out Rowan Atkinson, but watching it several times, I don't think I could. It's not that I don't like him as an actor, I cannot stand the character he played in the film. Should've been much more straight faced. He could've even been a good substitute for Q.

I hear what you're saying about using the actual Thunderball gun barrel, but Sean looked so off-balance in that one (and the fact that he had a hat on, make it very dated) that I never personally cared for it, myself.

I do like the idea of a Connery-based-era soundtrack though. It is indeed too bad that Atkinson's role was so bad, even though I do like him in the Mr. Bean series and in Johnny English movies, but I really cannot see how you can edit him out without major difficulties.

I also never liked the opening song sung by Lani Hall. I thought Phyllis Hyman's version was much better. The Hall version always sounded terribly warped to me, but legal issued didn't allow Hyman's version to be used.

Hope your project goes well, and do keep us updated!

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Has this edit been completed? I would love a copy of it if it’s uploaded somewhere…I have the old Never Say McClory Again edit and would love to upgrade to this one…Thanks if you can help!
Zippy!