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I’m curious what everyone thinks on this. I have found that most people hate the changes to the movies and want them in their original form, yet they refer to the first movie as “A New Hope” instead of “Star Wars”.

Since the original didn’t reference this title in any way, I see it as just another change, just like the SE changes (even though it came earlier). In fact I think using this name adds credibility to the argument that George Lucas can change the movies after release.

What do all of you think? Is it more acceptable because the change was made closer to the release? Or did you never see the original release first?

Personally, I think its hard to make a strong argument against the special editions while using a name that George Lucas came up with years after the movie came out. I’d love to know if I’m alone in this thought.

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There’s a similar discussion in this thread.

Personally, it doesn’t bother me, since Star Wars is the name of the franchise now and saying “the original Star Wars film” every time is just clunky. But I did grow up with there being six Star Wars movies already… The name ANH predates the Special Editions considerably so I don’t see a reason to associate it specifically with the SE.

I also call the 60s series “Star Trek” “Star Trek: The Original Series” for similar reasons.

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I see your point, I just call the movie “Star Wars” and I guess it does sometimes cause confusion. I definitely agree with you that that would be clunky.

I guess I’m more accepting of referring to it as Episode 4 (even though it never actually called itself that) because the original version of Empire did refer to itself as episode 5.

I never cared for the subtitle A New Hope, that might be why it bothers me.

Star Trek makes a ton of sense to me, because there are so many movies and series, and even a movie that is simply called “Star Trek”, so you really do need to further specify. With Star Wars there are only 3 movies… no matter what George Lucas wants you to believe.

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I call it ‘Star Wars’ too, partly because that was the original name and partly because I think the film is the essence of Star Wars; it encapsulates the feeling of the Star Wars universe to an extent, and at the end of the day, everything else is derivative. But as mentioned above, if you say your favourite movie is Star Wars, people are going to ask which one.

Calling the film ‘Star Wars’ is relegated pretty much to OT purists like us lot on originaltrilogy.com. Let’s treat the official name as Star Wars, but in conversation, refer to it as ANH for handiness.

“Remember, the Force will be with you. Always.”

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I usually just call it ANH/Episode 4. I think given the context of the greater saga it makes more sense.

Use the Force, Jon Yowza.

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Hoop28 said:

I usually just call it ANH/Episode 4. I think given the context of the greater saga it makes more sense.

Ahhh, but only if you acknowledge the existence of movies made after 1983…

I’m not as opposed to calling it episode 4, I just hate the made-up-after-the-fact fake title.

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zxs_2020 said:

Hoop28 said:

I usually just call it ANH/Episode 4. I think given the context of the greater saga it makes more sense.

Ahhh, but only if you acknowledge the existence of movies made after 1983…

Which most people here do. Not everyone here is a hardcore purist who hates everything that isn’t the OT.

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The film was first retitled A New Hope in the Art of Star Wars first edition. Edited by Carol Titelman.

That was in 1979 i think.

So 1981 was when they actually bothered to do it, to physically alter the opening roll up and starfield and add a new second title to the film. They even spliced the new opening into existing prints.

I’m sure ILM has talked about redoing the opening somewhere.

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I really don’t like the A New Hope title, but I kinda bring myself to calling it that because calling it “Star Wars” can be confusing.

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