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Post retracted :D

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Vaderisnothayden said:
C3PX said:

Again, might as well watch the movie with your eyes closed. Absolutely pointless.

 

 Well I never saw any particular point to the radio dramas in the first place.

 

Well, there is your problem right there.

 

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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bkev said:

Cept for vaderisnothayden, who is known for being the most negative out of all of us.  He makes Skyjedi look like a TFN user.

Cool. :D

 

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C3PX said:
Vaderisnothayden said:
C3PX said:

Again, might as well watch the movie with your eyes closed. Absolutely pointless.

 

 Well I never saw any particular point to the radio dramas in the first place.

 

Well, there is your problem right there.

 

I don't see it as a problem. I've never been a fan of audio drama. It's not a format that works particularly well for me. The Star Wars dramas worked better than I expected, but still they're not my format. And I never saw the point in adapting the films to radio drama. I think Daley wanted to demonstrate what could be done in the format. But that doesn't count for me, because I don't care about the format. I rather resent what I consider the liberties the radio drama takes with the story. And the Leia ep annoys me -Leia doesn't feel like Leia and the whole thing doesn't work very well. And as far as I'm concerned, the film versions of the characters are THE versions. So different actors playing the parts must therefore be a false version in my view. Some of the radio actors manage pretty well in capturing the essence of the characters anyway (such as the Kenobi and Solo actors), but Leia is glaringly not Leia. Obviously, this is not the view you take, but it's how I feel. I don't mean any offense to anyone. People are perfectly entitled to like the radio dramas. Even I like them to a certain extent. But they're not my thing overall.

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Right, all that you wrote is just fine, but that is why I said "Well, there is your problem right there", you don't like radio dramas. No matter how well done they are, you wouldn't like them. Not even sure why you bothered to listen to them. I can't stand most hard rock, grates on my nerves, I find listening to is far from enjoyable. That said, I am not going to go out reviewing hard rock and death metal albums, and saying what is and isn't good in regards to these types of music, because no matter how good they are, I am not going to like them. Like you said, these radio dramas are not for you.

Daley did not, nor did he need to, demonstrate what could be done in the format, because it is a tried and true format, it has been around for a very long time. Daley did a good job of adapting it to this format, but he didn't do anything new. It had all been done before. Styles of acting and story telling are different in radio than they are in television or movies, things are just done differently.

 

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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C3PX said:

Right, all that you wrote is just fine, but that is why I said "Well, there is your problem right there", you don't like radio dramas. No matter how well done they are, you wouldn't like them. Not even sure why you bothered to listen to them. I can't stand most hard rock, grates on my nerves, I find listening to is far from enjoyable. That said, I am not going to go out reviewing hard rock and death metal albums, and saying what is and isn't good in regards to these types of music, because no matter how good they are, I am not going to like them. Like you said, these radio dramas are not for you.

Well it's not a case of not being able to stand radio dramas, they just don't work 100% for me. Like I said, I liked the Star Wars radio dramas to a certain extent. And there were things I liked about it and things I didn't like. So I have an opinion on  them.

Daley did not, nor did he need to, demonstrate what could be done in the format, because it is a tried and true format, it has been around for a very long time. Daley did a good job of adapting it to this format, but he didn't do anything new. It had all been done before. Styles of acting and story telling are different in radio than they are in television or movies, things are just done differently.

I think Daley actually said somewhere that he set out to demonstrate what could be done with the format. And I did read that the drama was indeed something new, in some aspect of style or how it worked, I just forget the specifics.

 

 

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Now for Obi-Wan Kenobi. Overall, the voice actor gives a flat performance. Obi-Wan seems too fatigued and "out of it" to be very engaging, and that's the first disappointment in the radio drama so far. Hopefully he gets better later on.

I'm inclined to think Kenobi was the best of the performances.

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I absolutely love Leia's voice in this.

I don't. For one thing, it's so not Leia.

 

 

 

There's clearly obstacles in your life which you feel powerless to express your disdain for, so your only outlet is being negatively opinionated to the point of obnoxiousness on internet forums.

Superherohype would be a great place for you. Here, however, among the level-minded, you will be branded an outcast and undoubtedly ostracized in the end.

You still have a chance to salvage your reputation. There's time, though very little.

"Fuck you. All the star wars movies were excellent. none of them sucked. Also, revenge of the sith is the best."

- DarthZorgon (YouTube)

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DarkFather said:
Vaderisnothayden said:
DarkFather said:

Now for Obi-Wan Kenobi. Overall, the voice actor gives a flat performance. Obi-Wan seems too fatigued and "out of it" to be very engaging, and that's the first disappointment in the radio drama so far. Hopefully he gets better later on.

I'm inclined to think Kenobi was the best of the performances.

DarkFather said:

I absolutely love Leia's voice in this.

I don't. For one thing, it's so not Leia.

 

 

 

There's clearly obstacles in your life which you feel powerless to express your disdain for, so your only outlet is being negatively opinionated to the point of obnoxiousness on internet forums.

Superherohype would be a great place for you. Here, however, among the level-minded, you will be branded an outcast and undoubtedly ostracized in the end.

You still have a chance to salvage your reputation. There's time, though very little.

Really, I'd look in the mirror. I'm not the person going around tossing out vicious unprovoked personal attacks on the web. Why do you feel the need to dish out vicious attacks? Is something bad going on in your life, causing you to lash out at perfect strangers? Take a deep breath. All I did on this thread was make some mild criticial statements. I even defended something you put down. And as for my posting elsewhere on this forum, well, I'm hardly the only person here who dislikes the PT and the SE. If you're so bothered by my behavior that you feel the need to lash out at me, then perhaps it's something within you that causes you to be so bothered? I don't know. I'm just wondering, because your way out personal attack coming out of the blue is a surprise to me. I hope my wondering doesn't offend you, but you have to understand that wondering like that comes naturally in reaction to such bizarre blasts of sudden hostility.

Understand this, though, I don't come here to get into fights with people, so I won't be drawn into a drawn-out argument with you. I saw you pick a fight with another poster on one of the other threads yesterday. It wasn't a pleasant sight. I don't want to get into something like that or worse. So if you continue to post in a hostile manner, I will just ignore your posts.  

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DarkFather said:

There's clearly obstacles in your life which you feel powerless to express your disdain for, so your only outlet is being negatively opinionated to the point of obnoxiousness on internet forums.

Superherohype would be a great place for you. Here, however, among the level-minded, you will be branded an outcast and undoubtedly ostracized in the end.

You still have a chance to salvage your reputation. There's time, though very little.

Vaderisnothayden said:

Really, I'd look in the mirror. I'm not the person going around tossing out vicious unprovoked personal attacks on the web. Why do you feel the need to dish out vicious attacks? Is something bad going on in your life, causing you to lash out at perfect strangers? Take a deep breath. All I did on this thread was make some mild criticial statements. I even defended something you put down. And as for my posting elsewhere on this forum, well, I'm hardly the only person here who dislikes the PT and the SE. If you're so bothered by my behavior that you feel the need to lash out at me, then perhaps it's something within you that causes you to be so bothered? I don't know. I'm just wondering, because your way out personal attack coming out of the blue is a surprise to me. I hope my wondering doesn't offend you, but you have to understand that wondering like that comes naturally in reaction to such bizarre blasts of sudden hostility.

Understand this, though, I don't come here to get into fights with people, so I won't be drawn into a drawn-out argument with you. I saw you pick a fight with another poster on one of the other threads yesterday. It wasn't a pleasant sight. I don't want to get into something like that or worse. So if you continue to post in a hostile manner, I will just ignore your posts.  

 

Whoa, this sort of stuff is not needed. We can all disagree sometimes. It is nothing personal. I for one have not seen Vaderisnohayden displaying any more "obnoxiousness" in his opinions than many of our most active members. 

We do have a tendancy to derail threads with negativity around here, and that is a shame. It is a bad habit a few of us have, myself included. For example, not every PT related thread needs someone to pipe up and express how the prequels are the shittiest pieces of shit anyone in Hollywood has ever shat out, though this usually tends to be the case. When relatively new members see long standing members doing this, I can imagine it being very natural for them to follow suit.

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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Vaderisnothayden said:
C3PX said:
Vaderisnothayden said:
C3PX said:

Again, might as well watch the movie with your eyes closed. Absolutely pointless.

 

 Well I never saw any particular point to the radio dramas in the first place.

 

Well, there is your problem right there.

 

I don't see it as a problem. I've never been a fan of audio drama. It's not a format that works particularly well for me.

That's too bad, because the audio dramas of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" is some of the funniest stuff ever recorded, and are my personal favorite version of the stories (and before you ask, the radio dramas actually came first, even before the books).

Still, not for everyone, I suppose.

 

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C3PX said:

I for one have not seen Vaderisnohayden displaying any more "obnoxiousness" in his opinions than many of our most active members. 

 

 Thanks. :)

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Nanner Split said:

That's too bad, because the audio dramas of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" is some of the funniest stuff ever recorded, and are my personal favorite version of the stories (and before you ask, the radio dramas actually came first, even before the books).

Still, not for everyone, I suppose.

 

Very true! For anyone who is a fan of quirky humor, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is definitely worth tracking down. 

The fairly recent HhGttG movie was rather unfortunate, introduced millions of newcomers to the series, then turned them off of it for good.

As Nanner said, the first two phases (think seasons) of the radio series came first. Then they were both adapted into a book, and about everyother form of media you can think of (TV series, comics, a video game, towels, etc.). Three other books were written in the series, and just a few years ago they each received a radio adaption, which, while not near as good as the originals, are pretty cool. They too are worth a little effort to get you hands on.

Also, for anyone who doesn't mind archaic videogames, the H2G2 text-based video game from the early nineteen eighties is a lot of fun. It takes a little bit of effort to get into, especially if you didn't grow up with pure text adventure games, but it really is a lot of fun, and was written by Douglas Adams himself. I bet you'd like it Nanner. It is easy to find on the net these days, and if you have troubel getting into it, you can always use a walk through to get you through the first few screens to get a feel for the game. Though it is very rewarding to figure out the puzzles on your own.

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I'm just stating the truth. When someone makes a habit of being contrary, you wonder whats goin' on.

"Fuck you. All the star wars movies were excellent. none of them sucked. Also, revenge of the sith is the best."

- DarthZorgon (YouTube)

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C3PX said:
Nanner Split said:

That's too bad, because the audio dramas of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" is some of the funniest stuff ever recorded, and are my personal favorite version of the stories (and before you ask, the radio dramas actually came first, even before the books).

Still, not for everyone, I suppose.

 

Very true! For anyone who is a fan of quirky humor, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is definitely worth tracking down. 

The fairly recent HhGttG movie was rather unfortunate, introduced millions of newcomers to the series, then turned them off of it for good.

As Nanner said, the first two phases (think seasons) of the radio series came first. Then they were both adapted into a book, and about everyother form of media you can think of (TV series, comics, a video game, towels, etc.). Three other books were written in the series, and just a few years ago they each received a radio adaption, which, while not near as good as the originals, are pretty cool. They too are worth a little effort to get you hands on.

Also, for anyone who doesn't mind archaic videogames, the H2G2 text-based video game from the early nineteen eighties is a lot of fun. It takes a little bit of effort to get into, especially if you didn't grow up with pure text adventure games, but it really is a lot of fun, and was written by Douglas Adams himself. I bet you'd like it Nanner. It is easy to find on the net these days, and if you have troubel getting into it, you can always use a walk through to get you through the first few screens to get a feel for the game. Though it is very rewarding to figure out the puzzles on your own.

 

The text adventure is actually on  Douglas Adams's website as a Java application. There's an updated version on the BBC's website that includes graphics and stuff I believe, but I haven't played it. I hold that the Babel Fish puzzle is impossible without a walkthrough.

Personally, I thought the movie was pretty good. I'd noticed before seeing it that every version of the story had lots of changes from the others (i.e. the radio shows were different from the books were different from the TV show were different from the game, etc. ; I guess Adams just got bored with telling the same story over and over again) so I was actually expecting it to be different, and some of the new ideas were brilliant (such as the creatures on the Vogon homeworld that smacked you in the face if you had an original idea, which explained the Vogons' upturned noses).

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I didn't dislike the movie because it was different from the book/radio play. Actually, the DOS game was my introduction to the series, not the plays or the books. From there I got my hands on the radio plays, enjoyed them, and then went out and bought the one volume hardback of the "trilogy".

That was one of the cool things about Adams, I really liked how each retelling of the story was entirely different. That is one of the marks against the recent three phases of the radio series, they were not written by Adams, and so were followed their written counterparts very closely.

As for the impossibility of the Babel Fish puzzle, it isn't impossible. I beat it without a walkthrough. That was one of the best parts of the game, it had me cracking up, and then before too long nearly crying.

Interesting they have graphic java versions of it now. Not even sure how that would work, I am assuming they are just still images?

 

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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Cool i'll definitely check this out. I made a text adventure once [with qbasic]...never finished it tho. Also made a golf game - but the action was mostly random.

 

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DarkFather said:

When Vader comes aboard the Tantive IV to retrieve the stolen plans, a listener will begin to realize that this is a new spin on the villain from the film. While much of the dialogue and actions are the same, the tonality he uses when speaking gives us a villain with a different personality. His voice remains calm. While choking Antilles, Vader talks like an adult asking a child where the remote control to the television was hidden.

So this Vader isn't so much the brute from the film, but a more sophisticated and stoic villain.

 

 Obviously any actor (except Rich Little) is going to bring their own take on the character, but I also think that the radio actor's performance is clearly inspired by the James Earl Jones performance in ESB more than the much angrier and more expressive performance Jones gave in Star Wars.

The Ulic Quel Droma story, all three Dark Empires, and the Dark Forces games were also adapted to full-cast "radio dramas," with (IMHO) less success.

I sure wish they'd do the PT as radio dramas. With a solid writer to flesh out the characters and motivations, that could be awesome.

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There's a series of Cantina stories too.  I have Hammertong, Nightlily and We Don't Do Weddings.  There might be others out there.

And if you actually like the audio/radio drama style, check out Star Wars Fanworks.  The whole site is audio dramas and pod casts.

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TheBoost said:
DarkFather said:

When Vader comes aboard the Tantive IV to retrieve the stolen plans, a listener will begin to realize that this is a new spin on the villain from the film. While much of the dialogue and actions are the same, the tonality he uses when speaking gives us a villain with a different personality. His voice remains calm. While choking Antilles, Vader talks like an adult asking a child where the remote control to the television was hidden.

So this Vader isn't so much the brute from the film, but a more sophisticated and stoic villain.

 

 Obviously any actor (except Rich Little) is going to bring their own take on the character, but I also think that the radio actor's performance is clearly inspired by the James Earl Jones performance in ESB more than the much angrier and more expressive performance Jones gave in Star Wars.

The Ulic Quel Droma story, all three Dark Empires, and the Dark Forces games were also adapted to full-cast "radio dramas," with (IMHO) less success.

I sure wish they'd do the PT as radio dramas. With a solid writer to flesh out the characters and motivations, that could be awesome.

 

 I like the NPR Darth Vader, don't get me wrong.

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Brock Peters is the voice of Darth Vader.

Brock has appeared as Admiral Cartwright in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home and Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country.

Brock also played Captain Sisko's father in the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine series.

Kevin

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And, perhaps most famously, he was Tom Robinson in To Kill a Mockingbird.

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C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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TheBoost said:

The Ulic Quel Droma story, all three Dark Empires, and the Dark Forces games were also adapted to full-cast "radio dramas," with (IMHO) less success.

I sure wish they'd do the PT as radio dramas. With a solid writer to flesh out the characters and motivations, that could be awesome.

 

It wasn't actually the games The Dark Forces games that were adapted to radio dramas, but were a series of sort of novels published by Dark Horse featuring extensive artwork and mostly based off of DFII: Jedi Knight. Yeah, they kind of sucked, especially for a guy like me who fell in love with the originallity of the first DF game, only to see it sink into everything that was wrong with the EU with the second game and the book series. :(

I assume the "Ulic Quel Droma" story is the Tales of the Jedi radio drama? As Ziz said there is also a few of the short stories from the book Tales from the Mos Eisley Cantina that were made into radio dramas. And the most obscure is Rebel Mission to Ord Mantell which was also done by Daley and takes place between SW and ESB, telling the story of Han running into a bountry hunter and getting shaken up, as mentioned by him in ESB. It is only thirty minutes long, and can be found for download on the internet in mp3 format with minimal searching through google. Oh yeah, and it really sucks.

Those are all the SW related radio dramas. I have only heard the trilogy, Dark Forces, Rebel Mission to Ord Mantell, and the first few sides of the first Dark Empire. Can't say I was too impressed with any of them, except for the trilogy of course.

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