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My review of Episode III (minor, minor spoilers)

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Not bad. Not bad at all.

Dialogue was much better overall than Ep. II. Not a lot of cringe-inducing moments.

Acting was more natural also, particularly from McGregor. I think the actors realized this time that they weren't going to be directed all that well, and if they wanted decent performances, it was up to them. McDiarmid was a bit over the top on occasion as the Emperor, but still creepy with that occasional Emperor smirk he had in ROTJ.

General Grievous is stupid. Lame non-villain. All filler, no meat. That's all I'll say about that.

Hearing Vader breathe through the mask the first time was cool. Hearing him talk wasn't. His dialogue was dull and wimpy, as if James Earl Jones channeled Christensen. Jones' voice, Hayden's attitude. It's not the powerful Vader we know from the OT. ROTS still isn't enough to convince me that Christensen's Anakin was capable of becoming Vader in any way except for his weakness against the dark side. And he turns SO fast when the time comes.

I think the best thing about ROTS is that it demonstrates there are gray areas in the Force; it's not as simple as light side/dark side. You'll see high-ranking Jedi performing questionable actions in the name of the greater good. You'll hear some characters question the motives of the Jedi, and it makes sense. You'll know that arrogance runs rampant on all sides. The deepest hurt is when two of our most beloved Jedi both admit failure.

From a technical standpoint, it's a superb production. The presentation I saw was film-based, but even still, it's obvious that the HD cams Lucas used this time around are a marked step forward compared to AOTC. Very film-like. The CG is also quite good. Much more detail than AOTC, giving objects a more organic quality. I still prefer the puppet yoda from ESB to the CG version though.

The best of the PT, and better than ROTJ I think. Definitely worth seeing.
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I pretty much agree with everything you said. I was somewhat encouraged by it, so I'll post my review here. I agree that the HD camera looked much better and more natural this time around. Characters blended into the CGI backrounds much better. Overall the CGI was good, but still too video-gamey at times - a lot of the scenes were over the top. While some of the dialogue was laughable, overall I thought it was infinitely better than the first two prequels. My favorite parts were actually the exposition scenes in the middle, even though Anakin's turn seemed rushed. The only problem I had with Anakin's character is that his personality is nothing like Vader's. In the OT, Vader is relaxed, methodical - always in control. In this, he's all over the place. Maybe 20 years of doing nothing chilled him out a bit for the OT? And yeah, Grievous was pointless.

Anyway, it was better than I expected.
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I too think Jay's review is pretty well rounded, and captures the esence of the movie. I think that there were lines that were cheesy but their delivery was much better so they didnt have the same effect. The one line i thought was an exception to this was Yoda's mention of Chewbacca's name. Other than that I thought Lucas did a much better job of all the OT tie-ins (and there were quite a few), they seemed more natural unlike the other two movies where they came off forced and/or poorly done.

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"Anakin, You're father I am" - Yoda
"No. No. That's not true! That's impossible!" - Anakin

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I'm not even goint to attempt a review of "Sith" because I am still stunned. In my opinion it is one of the best, if not the best, of the Star Wars movies.

This is the movie that I've been waiting for since I first saw Star Wars way back in 1977.



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Got back from the movie a little while ago.

All I got to say is WOW!!!!

That movie was absolutely incredible!!!

There was some cringe moments, but nothing really near Eps 1 and 2. There are some gray areas for me that I will not go into as another viewing may clear them up. The movie is just one roller coaster ride. There are practically no breathers. The pace is unrelenting. No time was given at all the absorb what was going on. Just went from one thing to the next.

Everything happened as it should. The pace did seem to upset some of the stuff that happens, but it's nothing that major. I think with time this one may be considered the best. It is dark as hell and definitely has some the most lost limbs of any Star Wars film yet.

My faith is restored......now if only we can get the unmolested OT.....all sins will be forgiven, George. I'm proud of you, man......you didn't fuck this one up!!!
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I think the best thing about ROTS is that it demonstrates there are gray areas in the Force; it's not as simple as light side/dark side. You'll see high-ranking Jedi performing questionable actions in the name of the greater good. You'll hear some characters question the motives of the Jedi, and it makes sense. You'll know that arrogance runs rampant on all sides. The deepest hurt is when two of our most beloved Jedi both admit failure.


You're absolutely right there Jay. It does indded go against Lucas' usual Black and White mentality. I loved Ben's, "I've failed you Anakin".

I also agree on Vader breathing, and I thought seeing the inside of the mask was cool. I still don't know why he's wearing the ROTJ version of the costume though. As for the lines, keep in mind, the Vader persona is new. He's just been rebuilt. So I think it works. THe Frankinstein restraint pulling was a bit chessy though. I loved the use of The Force though.


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Oh phew! I started at the bottom of the list of updated threads which meant that I read the boycotting and the "meh" review threads first. I was starting to wonder if anyone liked the movie.

Well, suffice it to say, I did like it... a lot.

Ewan definitely made the movie. He brought humor, compassion, and wisdom to the movie that was sorely lacking in TPM and AOTC.

Hayden and Natalie weren't the best, but at least a bit better. And I did like Anakin's dream sequences. Well done, IMHO.

The cornball dialogue was at a minimum and Jar Jar was silenced.

The CG was much better this time around. Nothing really stood out too horribly except maybe for Obi Wan's lizard mount. It could have been worse if there hadn't been so much other stuff to see at the same time.

Grievous was absolutely pointless. I know the coughing is explained in the Clone Wars animated series, but how does that help the millions who were never able to see the toon? To them, it was just annoying. To me, it was annoying, and I know why it happened that way.

And am I the only one who's starting to feel sorry for Christopher Lee here? Cut entirely from the theatrical release of ROTK and offed early in ROTS. Man, he's just getting the shaft.

Oh, and I could have done without Vader's scream towards the end.
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Overall: I think this was the first of the Prequels worthy of the Star Wars legacy. I really liked it.

What was awesome:
-changed the juvenile humor of the first two (farting animals, Jar Jar's tongue) for some tongue-in-cheek humor (like the droids in the elevator. I don't know what exactly they changed, but it had that Star Wars "feel" we're always talking about.

-way to finally answer the "why doesn't Qui Gonn disappear?" question! And they tied it in with Anakin's obsession with cheating death, and contrasted the natural power of the light side with the equivalent unnatural power of the dark side. Well done!

-better pacing (AOTC was too chopped), better acting, better dialogue. I only cringed once...maybe I'll grow to love that line in the future by virtue of its sap?

-Yoda actually hinted at MagnoliaFan's take on the "prophecy of the one!" MagFan says balance could mean the end of the sith, it could also be a darker prophecy at reducing the force to two sith and two jedi, thus establishing balance. Yoda hinted at this, and the viewer can draw his own conclusion at the end of the movie when we see the two pairs.

-Way to include the Lava duel Lucas originally had planned for ROTJ.

-Better Anakin tension, saw the good and the bad and we were able to root for him, all the while knowing the tragedy that was to unfold.

-LOVED the lizard-steed.

What they got wrong:
-mis-marketed General Greivous. He was supposed to be a bad-arse jedi killing machine. He just ran and got his butt kicked. Sure, he was cool, but he was a completely different character than Clone Wars and starwars.com led us to believe. Totally mis-marketed and so kind of ruined.

-I didn't hear a Screaming Wilhelm...did anyone else?

-They gave me a convincing reason for Anakin to turn to the dark side but there was no convincing reason for him to stay on the darkside. I wish they had given him a consuming hatred for the emporer, so he was trying to learn the power to kill him, kind of like an addiction. But after Padme was dead, I had trouble believing that Anakin would then venture down the Lord Vader path...something was missed.

-OK, so you have to ruin the "I am your father" surprise, that's just the way it goes. But I REALLY wish they had kept Leia a mystery. Future generations could still have the experience in ESB when Yoda says "there is another" (oh yeah, and Obi Wan supposedly didn't know about her? "He was our last hope"? But he's the one who hid them? Whatever. I think that was a pre-existing inconsistency). Anyway, Yoday says "there is another" and everyone's wondering where's luke's sister? And then in ROTJ we find out it's Leia. But now everyone forever will know from the get go. That did not have to be given away.

-The one loose end that will eat at me forever is what happened to R2 that he went from a Comm-catching, rocket-flying, droid-beating, spaceship-jumping, pop-a-wheelying tin-can of terror to a geriatric astromech. R2 was a *little* over the top, not too bad, but when we see his old role, there's just no connection. I though maybe he would take heavy damage or something at the end of the film, but no dice.

Anyway, it was great. When I finally got over my denial at Episode I and conceded that it was a bad movie, I told everyone that I held out hope that the completed trilogy would give context to it and make it good. Episode II did indeed improve it; the whole was greater than the sum of the parts. With a quality ending that successfully captured the greatness of Star Wars, I'm hoping that going back and seeing the entire PT, the context will make it valuable as a whole. Hoping hoping hoping. We'll see.

My kids are still seeing the OT first whenver they're born, though : )
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I second and third Jay's observations here.....it would also seem that with everything going on in the movie it was designed as one huge marketing fiesta in the name of a "George" retirement party fund (considering his divorce)....proven by the fact that the limited "Lava" Darth Vader Target Exclusive figure is selling in upwards of $100.00 for something that was $6.99 when first purchased. That stinks.....

I did like the movie and I enjoyed it's humor. I also believe Ewan deserves alot of credit. His character above all was the one that really shines here. Yoda pulls it off to......that "little green friend" to all. I was a bit disappointed in the Anakin/Dooku fight scene. It seemed devoid of the emotion that is said to "lead to the darkside". And the look on Dooku's face when he finds out his time is up....it's like he is getting ready to "drop the kids off at the pool" and the toilet paper in the stall is dumb-struck scented. Mace Windu doesn't get a fitting end either in my opinion. His lines seem forced and like "he" thought something different should be said since he "is" portraying the venerable Jedi Master. I also would have liked to see the end be a bit closer to ANH in design. The Tantive looked great, it was everything else. Also, being able to see Darth Vader in some action in the suit before the end bringing the turmoil of the OT to a better focus would have really tied things tighter.

I remember Peter Jackson stating that GL had given him some pointers on how to visually make the story progress and be tangible. During this movie it seems that maybe he took "some" cue from the LOTR series to try and better this one but he falls short, bouncing around way too much and too quickly just to show all the splendor that is CGI. He has the right idea but can't seem to wrap his "brillo-pad" looking head around the emotion and passion needed to fulfill his destiny with Star Wars.

Visually: this movie was really stunning!!!
Acting: Ewan really deserves the hat on this one....Fantastic nod to the fans with his realistic portrayal.
Music: Not really anything to write home about...I hope John Williams has some work lined up....this one isn't his best even tho it's not rock bottom.
Editing: Copy, Paste, Copy, Paste......need I say more.

My nephew enjoyed himself so that is truly what counts on this day. I will wait til the DVD release to really watch it again. I do hope that Lucas kept a few things aside as ROTS seems riddled with little hints aside from the Clone War nods and it would be nice to see a fuller, richer, more natural cut.

Enjoy the show.......!!!!
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-I didn't hear a Screaming Wilhelm...did anyone else?


Yes, there was one. I can't remember the scene. I just remember hearing it and thinking, "ah, there's our boy, Willie!"

There was one thing I found kind of interesting. Anakin and Padme always talk about their "baby" in the singular. Obviously, neither knew that she was pregnant with twins. I like how that ties into ROTJ when Vader realizes "Sister! So you have a twin sister! Obi Wan was wise to hide her from me." I just remember reading before seeing the movie about how Anakin is told in ROTS that Padme is pregnant. And I was like, well how could he not remember the babies she was going to have when he becomes Vader and then just hunt them down from the very beginning? So GL hides it under the guise that neither knew she had twins. Even if he thought she still gave birth, one would be safe. But GL (and, thus, Obi Wan and Bail) even went a step further by still making her appear pregnant during the funeral procession. GL took that potential plothole and corked it right up. And I think he did a very decent job of it, too.
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-I didn't hear a Screaming Wilhelm...did anyone else?


Yes, there was one. I can't remember the scene. I just remember hearing it and thinking, "ah, there's our boy, Willie!"


It was near the beginning and was one of the Clone Troops if I remember correctly.
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Nice review Jay. See you guys actually had the movie start at 12:01 (since your posting at 3:04am). Mine didn't start till freaking 12:35 (after the trailers). No clue what the hold up was, but on a 20 screen theater here in Boca Raton, 16 of the screens showed the movie. There were a few people dressed up, wish I brought my digital camera. This one chick was dressed up in the Leia slave outfit (which you always get) but actually looked amazing in it. I'm assuming the guy (with her) who dressed as Vader was her BF, so if he was he is a very lucky man.

On a scale of 1-10 I'd give The Sith a 7.5 or maybe 8. Menace gets a 4.5; Clones gets 6.5 (best movie experience of my life); Hope gets a 9; Empire gets a 10; and Jedi gets a 8.5 (I was at the perfect age for Jedi and can still dig the ewoks). Anyway onto the movie.

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I think the best thing about ROTS is that it demonstrates there are gray areas in the Force; it's not as simple as light side/dark side. You'll see high-ranking Jedi performing questionable actions in the name of the greater good. You'll hear some characters question the motives of the Jedi, and it makes sense. You'll know that arrogance runs rampant on all sides. The deepest hurt is when two of our most beloved Jedi both admit failure.


That was the coolest part of the movie. You could really see from Anakin's point of view he thought he was doing the right thing. I loved how the Emporer manipulated him and fed off his fears to turn him. Also, after Mace disfigured him and he put on the hood for the 1st time, I was like wow.

I really wish he would have made the film about 20-30 min longer and extended some of the fight scenes. I wish the Mace Windu vs the Chanceslor scene was a tad longer, cause Mace was such a badass. I really wanted to see Yoda get f'd up by the Emporer and that's why he's a bit crazy when we meet him in Empire. Now we know he's a bit crazy just from being in exile for so long. I really liked the Ani vs Obi fight, but wish that were a tad longer also. Loved the move Obi-Wan had on Anikan, that was cool. Even though it was a complete sneak attack, I wish we sould have seen the Jedi fight back a bit and then get destroyed. Maybe I'm used to seeing them kick butt in the Clone Wars cartoon, but I felt a bit cheap seeing them get slottered that easily (especially by the Clones). Those were my major nitpicks with the film, everything felt a tad rushed and could have been drawn out a bit more.

I loved though how everything got rapped up and it felt like the OT. That Lucass did perfect. Overall, I really enjoyed the film and will see it again (when I'm not so tired). Need to take a nap when I get home from work tonight (going on almost 4 hours sleep).
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I loved though how everything got rapped up and it felt like the OT. That Lucass did perfect. Overall, I really enjoyed the film and will see it again (when I'm not so tired). Need to take a nap when I get home from work tonight (going on almost 4 hours sleep).


Well, that's about one hour of sleep more than I got. And I will see it again. This will mark the first of the SW films I have seen more than once in theaters. At least that I recall.
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Two quick notes (not to detract from the movie...I loved it and I am excited about Star Wars in a way I hardly remember being before...)

why the re-introduction of midichlorians? "luminous beings are we, not this crude matter..." or, rather we're crude matter with little pieces of crude matter that give us the illusion of beign luminous. The whole point of luminosity is that you don't NEED an intermediary, a part of you actually exists on a spiritual plane. Oh well.

And the other thing, the ambiguity of force powers. Seems like Obi Wan could have used the force to lift those buzz bots off of his fighter. It was life or death situation, he could have done it without anger, fear, or destruction, and so forth. I understand it was exciting, but there's always that struggle between what the force should be, in theory, and how it actually gets used.

Oh well. Sorry to gripe/nitpick. I'm a whiner.
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Time to chime in my 2 cents.

This movie was worse than Mariah Carey's Glitter...

k just kidding.

I loved this movie. It trounces 1 and 2. I agree with pretty much everything said in the thread as well, so I'll try to be as non-repetitious as possible.

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I will say one thing. People were complaining about the Emperor being over the top, but quite honestly, I thought it was nice. He was very serpentine and sly as Palpatine while still maintaining that nice old man persona. But once he revealed himself to Anakin and the Jedi came for him, there was no need to mask himself anymore. The only reason why he sounded over the top at first is because his whole body had just gotten fried with his lightning, including his voice box (which does raise the question though: why wasn't Luke deformed after ROTJ? He took a lot more lightning than Palps I think). But his voice did level out shortly after.

I liked a lot of things people had complained about. Like the space battle. I thought it was amazing, and it showed Anakin and Obi Wan's friendship and bond from the get go. I even liked the droid humor because it was a nice bit of levity before the udder darkness was to come (minus the ship somehow having gravity when turned sideways, but still forgiveable).

I don't know about anyone else's theatre, but when Yoda chopped off the two Troopers heads lickety split, and used the hand motion to knock out the guards when going in to confront the Emperor, the whole crowd was clapping. Soooo pimp.

The acting was superb almost across the board. I even liked Hayden's acting on this one. There were still a couple of off deliveries from him, but it was nice. Padme....well she improved some...I guess. Very flat delivery still for her I think. Ewan = the shit as Obi Wan. Kudos to him on the performance.

And as far as how quickly the change was to the darkside, yeah it was a bit rushed, but it still kept me along for the ride, because you saw with everything he did how it was more and more like quicksand, and how much more control of his mind he gave to the Emperor. His power craving and his want to save Padme did him in. The irony of him having the visions of her dying, then going through all of this just to kill her essentially was nice.

As far as downsides, I have one complaint and a couple of nitpicks.

Complaint: Darth Vader's "NOOOOOOO!!!" was terrible. I loved everything being crushed in the room, but man I wish they would have either use another take or changed the line, because it just didn't work.

Nitpicks:

a) Bail didn't even ask for Leia. "You're splitting them up? Oh, well we'll take that one." 8^|

b) C3P0 I thought was supposed to interject a statement about Padme before Bail requests the droids mind be wiped at the end. As it stands he didn't even pause upon requesting it to happen.

c) I wish that Vadar would have choked Padme a bit longer. Pretty terrible thing to say, I know, but it wo

d) I wish that Padme hadn't said "There's still good in him". That line should be kept unsaid until Luke says it. After all, she died because she lost the will to live. The Republic was now an Empire, and her husband had turned to the dark side and just killed several people including children. If she were still holding onto hope that he was still good, then it's no excuse for her dying, right?

^ While these are all nitpicks, it's still fine the way it is for me. I thoroughly enjoyed the movie and my experience. It's nice to see others did as well.
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Also, here's a thought (+ spoiler):

In AOTC, Sypha Dias ordered the clone army from Camino. There is no further mention of him, other than he died around the time he ordered them. However, Darth Plagues is mentioned here as Palps mentor. I wonder if they are one in the same. After all, Palps did say he murdered him in his sleep.
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I loved though how everything got rapped up and it felt like the OT. That Lucass did perfect. Overall, I really enjoyed the film and will see it again (when I'm not so tired). Need to take a nap when I get home from work tonight (going on almost 4 hours sleep).


Well, that's about one hour of sleep more than I got. And I will see it again. This will mark the first of the SW films I have seen more than once in theaters. At least that I recall.


Really? Even the OT or the prequils are you talking about? Ep I - I tried to see repeated viewings b/c in part I wanted to like it, but couldn't bring myself around to doing so. I also was in L.A. at the time it was out so I saw it in a really nice theater (coming from a college town w no big theaters). Ep II - I saw a couple times on a regular screen (like I said in my original post it was the best movie experience I ever had) and then saw it a 3rd on a digital screen. That was cool. Planning on seeing this a couple more times and once on a digital screen this memorial day weekend in Boston.
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Ok, I posted a few tidbits on how I felt about the movies last night, but gonna jump on the bandwagon and give (or try to) a more full review.

*SPOILERS*

I really liked the movie, I didnt really have any problem with the flow and also thought the dialog was delivered much better so even the stuff that would have been cringe worthy didnt make you cringe.

I thought the clone war/senate take over/rise of the empire was a great concept and I think it was pulled off very well.

I did think that Vader's lines after his costume were a bit weak, and their was a drastic change to Anakins character at that point that I found a bit to abrubt. But I did like how they showed Palpatine's manipulation of Vader. Telling Vader that he killed Padme, though while technically true, it wasnt entirely true. But you can see how Palpatine manipulates Vader to maintain control.

I think some good points on Palpatine were revealed to. To me it seemed to show him as not really keeping his apprentices around too long. Palps killed his master Darth Plagueous (could they possibly have come up with a lamer name). And now he doesnt want to let any of his Apprentices get to powerful that they will overthrow/kill him like he did to his master. But at the same time he wants a powerful apprentice. Did anyone else pick up one possible hint that the Emperor (or mayber his master) created Anakin? THe comment about creating life from the midichlorians. It wasnt fully explained/explored, but it kind of sheds light on the 'born from the midichlorians' comment from episode I.

One of my biggest gripes is probably artoo. I thought he did way to much. I mean, with his abilities did they even need anyone else there. why couldnt Obi-Wan's R4 unit fight off those little droids on his ship but R2 had no problem? But i thought the PT/OT tie-ins were done pretty well/smoothly over all. they werent as forced as in the other episodes (except that yoda chewbacca line).

I did find it somewhat wierd that Padme had 2 names just picked out for her kids, and just tosses out the name after hearing It's a boy/It's a girl. but then also just dies 1 minute later. I also, like someone said (possibly in a different thread) would have liked Leia to be kept a secret. Luke didnt matter, because even if they did, once you see/hear Luke Skywalker in Episode IV you would know its Anakin's son. But Leia said she new her real mother, and 'she died when i was very young' now, newborn is considered very young, but too young for leia to remember images of her mother.

The Anakin/Obi wan interaction was great. It showed the strong friendship they had. Anakin risking his own life to save Obi-Wan in the beginning, the scene where even after Palpatine convinces him to 'murder' Dooku Anakin still refuses to just leave Obi-Wan behind. At the end when Obi-Wan finds out about Anakin having turned to the dark side I actually felt his pain, even though we know the truth all along. I felt as if Obi-Wan took the responsibily for Anakins turn, hence why he felt it was his duty to rid the world of Vader even though he obviously didnt want to hurt Anakin.

I didnt have a problem with the Qui-Gon ghost explanation either. I did however expect him to appear at that point, and was suprised that lucas didnt do so, but at the same time i wasnt 'upset' by that or the explanation given as some people appeared to have been. First people claim they dont need an explanation but then when Lucas doesnt have all the Jedi appear you need it spelled out for you. Could it have just been a power thing? Qui-Gon figured it out, but maybe he only figured out how to do the breaking the voice barrier. Maybe he wasnt powerful enough to appear as a Ghost. Maybe Anakin could come back as a Ghost because he learned the method through the Dark Side, and he was extremely powerful in the force. Either way, i thought it was a nice touch to the achieving 'immortality', which was part of Anakins reason for turning to the dark side, but ashowing that it was possible to do while still following the path of light.

I felt kinda bad for C-3PO at the end when he got his memory wipe. It seemed cruel. Why him and not R2? I realize it was really needed as a stop gap for plot holes created by including the droids in the PT. Someone made a comment (again, maybe in a different thread) about artoo getting seriously damage hence loosing some (most) of his gadgets he had in the PT. First, i was thinking how the end of ANH, kind of accomplishes this because artoo is pretty much destroyed and rebuilt, so its possible they didnt have th parts to give back his rocket packs and all that. but i agree that had this happened at the end of ROTS, then it would also explain why they didnt wipe R2's memory (oh, he was destroyed/rebuilt, his memory has been taken care of already, do the same to 3PO and we are all good)

Overall i thought the movie was great, I considered going to a digital showing today, but have other things i should do. Ill probably go see the digital version this weekend and im sure ill pick up on other little points that i missed/forgot.

sorry for the somewhat jumpy review/analysis but my mind is still reeling from the movies and my thoughts are coming a million miles a minute or not at all. I think Lucas did a great job pulling it all together and will see it at least once more in theaters, probably 2 or 3 though, and will get the dvd when it is released. I thought it was a satisfying end to the PT and will flow nicely to the OT

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Why Anakin really turned to the dark side:
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"No. No. That's not true! That's impossible!" - Anakin

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Why wouldn't they change Luke's last name?

This is something I've been thinking about. Unless, of course, there are billions of Skywalkers in the SW universe....
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The only line Ewan McGregor didn't deliver right was when he sees the holographic videos (didn't anyone see those before??? major plot hole!). He says something like "I don't want to watch those anymore", it didn't sound right. Apart from that, Ewan did a great job, even though GL was doing his best to ruin his acting by putting greenscreens all over him.
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I loved though how everything got rapped up and it felt like the OT. That Lucass did perfect. Overall, I really enjoyed the film and will see it again (when I'm not so tired). Need to take a nap when I get home from work tonight (going on almost 4 hours sleep).


Well, that's about one hour of sleep more than I got. And I will see it again. This will mark the first of the SW films I have seen more than once in theaters. At least that I recall.


Really? Even the OT or the prequils are you talking about? Ep I - I tried to see repeated viewings b/c in part I wanted to like it, but couldn't bring myself around to doing so. I also was in L.A. at the time it was out so I saw it in a really nice theater (coming from a college town w no big theaters). Ep II - I saw a couple times on a regular screen (like I said in my original post it was the best movie experience I ever had) and then saw it a 3rd on a digital screen. That was cool. Planning on seeing this a couple more times and once on a digital screen this memorial day weekend in Boston.


I was too young to take myself to the OT screenings multiple times. Heck, Jedi came out when I was 8. Couldn't quite drive at that time ad my parents never saw much point in seeing the same movies over and over. Still well before blockbuster mentality set in for the common masses. For the SEs, I only saw ANH and ESB (again, once). Never got around to seeing ROTJ. I dunno why. Just didn't. Timing, maybe? I'm pretty sure I was in school at the time, so maybe I had a schedule conflict? PT... I was too disappointed by TPM to see it more than once. AOTC I liked but never had anyone to see it with other than my brother. We saw it once but could never get it timed to see it again. Weird, eh? You would think that the junkie I am would have seen them all several times.

Maddog, that's a pretty good question... why not change his name if you're trying to hide him from his father. I really don't know.
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Originally posted by: Bossk

Maddog, that's a pretty good question... why not change his name if you're trying to hide him from his father. I really don't know.


*I* have a theory on that subject, but you'll have wait until *my* SW prequels are written to find out.
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All I can think of is that he was living with the skywalkers. Perhaps, being out on Tatooine, having the name skywalker wasn't too dangerous. But if the whole family changed their name suddenly, or adopted a son with a different last name and no one knew where he came from, it would be reason to talk and word might get out? Maybe it was just to keep from stirring up the pot since they were already in the outer rim.

That's just a stretch rationalization, but it came to me.
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