A Serious Question For VINH

Perhaps it's intended as a compliment.

VaderIsNotHayden.

Hayden can be taken to be synonymous with "whiney, juvenile, sucky, angsty... did I say sucky yet?"

Frink, YouAreNotHayden.

You're welcome.

I too have though the name was backwards when I really thought about it, but VINH's explanation also is sensible.

Hayden destroyed more than Vader he also ruined Anakin Skywalker.  But Natalie ruined the Skywalker mom role in episodes II and III.

The characters were kind of not very well sketched out in the first film but they had a essential humanity that was lacking in II and III.

The novelizations even though not the best did better than Lucas.  They focused on the human aspects of the characters and could not distract with cgi for lack of everything.

The fact is Lucas was such a bad writer and director that it took tie in books, usually considered garbage to serious readers of sci fi and fantasy and two prolific authors, who are considered bad writers for the first 2 prequel novelizations and a top rate author for the third.

The first a writer of Tolkien pastiche without the linguistics or scholarly background also known as a consumate plagiarist right up their with Lucas, and the second a writer of dungeons and dragons knockoff novels of forgotten realms, also a Tolkien re-writer.

The third a successful science fiction writer and one of the best star wars writers until the crap that was mindor.

Episodes II and III not only needed less yes men, and help from other writers and directors but a hell of a lot more drafts of the scripts.  Episode 1 despite what people think of it took as long as the original star wars did, and almost as many drafts.  Three rather than five?

The second and third seem to be hastily sketched as if directed and written from the art department.  Lazy Lucas, was Lazy. 

If he could not give star wars the treatment it deserved and not phoned in hack work garbage, then he should have left well enough alone.  Except ego and lack of funds got control.  Such hits like howard the duck and young indiana jones,lol.  That what made him return to wars not love of the material.

No Hayden was not just awful in Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith.  His acting in Jumper was laughably bad to just plain mediocre.

How could you find anyone more dislikable except maybe for Shia Lebouf or Chris Pine.

Seriously i get that chicks think he is hot, but besides that he cannot act to save his life.  Even in a fucking high school play he probably would make you want to get up on stage and start punching characters.

Vaderisnothayden said:

It's because Vader's important, thus focus on Vader. I don't rate Hayden, so I don't put the focus on Hayden.

That is what I always assumed. By putting Hayden first, too much emphasis would be placed on the name Hayden, which wouldn't make for a fitting screen name for a guy who doesn't care for Hayden as an actor.

Maybe his screen name should have been ShawisVader or ProwseisVader or JamesEarlJonesisVader, or BobAndersonisVader,lol.

vaderisnotjake

Uh, because that was the year he registered, perhaps?

TV's Frink said:

Ok, this has gone way off track (not surprising).  Let me sort of drag this back slightly by asking a similar question of skyjedi - why 2005?

The year the prequel trilogy ended of course.  Although despite early reviews as a redemption of Lucas it was shit. Not nearly as bad as 2008 with nuked fridges and Aliens, you know that Indiana Smith franchise,lol.

Warbler said:

Indiana Smith franchise?  never heard of it.   Is it anything like the Indiana Jones franchise?

Indiana Jones? ...Isn't he that Lara Croft knock-off?

Actually, the original name WAS going to be "Indiana Smith", but then they realized that there already was a character called "Nevada Smith" so they changed it.

But Ewan McGregor was good.

Because that's how all of these threads work.

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