Movies that were updated, then the original was "lost"(other than Star Wars) — Page 4

The Last of the Mohicans (Michael Mann)- Is in an ultimate cut. The theatrical release is no longer available and OOP which has extra and alternative scenes.

Alexander (Oliver Stone) - Is in an ultimate cut. The Alexander Revisited version is no longer available which had extra footage. The theatrical cut also makes use of extra footage. Not that good a film though started watching it and pushed stop on the theatrical cut.

The New World (Terrence Mallick) - I believe is now only in it's extended cut of which I am yet to see but I have the theatrical version on DVD. The EXtended cut is now on Blu-ray without theatrical version I believe.

Although Highlander (Russell Mulachy) was not updated all the remaining footage of extra scenes were destroyed in a fire at where the Reels were stored. The Full Soundtrack to the film has never been Properly released only in a low quality bootleg. Destroyed footage


A duel sequence that introduced an Asian immortal named Yung Dol Kim was cut from the film. The footage for the scene, along with certain other deleted scenes, was later destroyed by fire, although a few stills from the sequence, some in colour and others in black and white, survived.
Connor, Kastagir and Bedsoe partying at a bar. The scene expanded more on Kastagir and Connor's relationship and revealed that they met during the American Revolutionary War.
One scene in which Connor shows Brenda his katana after the sex scene.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091203/alternateversions

The Keep (Michael Mann) Film Disowned and butchered theatrical cut of original vision. The extra scenes are not lost though apparently but locked away in a Paramount Vault

47 Ronin (Carl Rinsch) - Film radically altered in post production, original film has never been released publically before studio intervention. And director compromised vision.

Barveheart (Mel Gibson) - original VHS cut scenes lost, DVD version in the UK was censored of throat slit scene of the new Mrs Wallace's captor. Now restored in Blu Ray version but many other violent scenes have been censored that have never been shown.

(Rambo) First Blood (Ted Kotcheff) - US TV version had many extra scenes and dialogue. Never been released as deleted scenes on any release Various Censored versions in other countries from international edit.

The Shining (Stanley Kubrick) The film was recalled whilst in theaters and the ending was removed to make a new ending by Stanley Kubrick's request then all the footage was destroyed except save one reel apparently the estate may be in possession of it.

Enter the Dragon (Robert Clouse) - Theatrical cut only available on Laser disc. All versions are the Uncut version which has music and sound missing. And a missing scene. No deleted footage for this film has ever been made available although some did to feature in other films after Bruce Lee's death.

The theatrical cut of Enter the dragon was on VHS (Pan & Scan) and Laserdisc.

The only version available now is the Special uncut edition. Which has alterations and cuts especially to sound and music from the mono mix.

Not sure about Last of the Mohicans on TV . There a quite a few versions I think the theatrical / Directors cut / the definitive directors cut. Biggest change is music at the end for the directors cut which was reverted back for definitive cut to be the same as the theatrical. But quite a few scenes are chopped and changed between versions. Great film!!!

You won't see the original TV cut of first Blood anymore either it was once again Pan & Scan.

Alexander revisited is now OOP as is the theatrical cut

Not to mention that for The Shining each country had their own version of the famous line on the typewriter, each different "saying" was personally chosen by Kubrick himself. As far as I know, they are all lost... or at least they are in the hands of collectors of the reels, not to be seen again.

I didn't know about Highlander and, darn it, now I want to see the extra footage that was lost! 

There is some deleted scenes on the new Blu-Ray but I think the Kurgen killing Yung Dol Kim is lost...

I suppose we should also add to the list.

Raiders of the Lost Ark (Steven Spielberg) - The theatrical cut has some bad language that was removed and also a scene in the bar fight ...

In the original 1981 theatrical version of Raiders, there are a few additional seconds during the Raven Bar fight where the Giant Sherpa (played by Pat Roach) shoves Indy against several walls while one of the Nazi henchman laughs. This footage was deleted in all re-release prints and video releases.

It's never been released in it's theatrical form but again was on TV I think in P&S

Can anyone actually confirm this though?

It could be one of those rumours...

Ronster said:

Raiders of the Lost Ark (Steven Spielberg) - The theatrical cut has some bad language that was removed and also a scene in the bar fight where a guy get's shot in the head I think.

It's never been released in it's theatrical form but again was on TV and VHS in Pan & Scan.

On imdb it also says that the laserdisc featured a different sound when the staff is dropped into the map room.

From theindyexerience (not always the most reliable of the sources but still...)

• In the original 1981 theatrical version of Raiders, there are a few additional seconds during the Raven Bar fight where the Giant Sherpa (played by Pat Roach) shoves Indy against several walls while one of the Nazi henchman laughs. This footage was deleted in all re-release prints and video releases.
• In the theatrical version of Raiders of the Lost Ark with Indiana Jones, an additional scene takes place immediately after the credits roll. The camera cuts back to Ark of the Covenant in the wooden crate inside the government warehouse where we last left it. In this scene, the Army intelligence stencil on the crate is slowly burned away by the power of the Ark. This scene was cut from the DVD release of the film.

You can see some of Pat Roach scenes in the Making of (not released in DVD).
Unfortunately I don't have the VHS of Raiders anymore to check if it can be found there. Anything on Laserdisc?

Yeah I am not too sure.. The Blu-Ray out now is apparently the theatrical cut restored...

That end scene is a load of rubbish I don't believe that... But I am curious about the Sherpa / Raven Bar fight scene.

It was quoted on IMDB also but has since been removed.

If we are going to talk censorship it's also worth noting that the exploding Head of the Nazi Officer was covered in flames to obtain PG Raiting. The original cut was more graphic.

I don't believe that either (!) but I didn't want always to bring "no" to the discussion, since I already doubted plenty for The Last Crusade.

The Bluray, from what I've heard, removed those idiotic CGI touch-ups, like the background in the scene when the jeep falls off the cliff (these were made for the second DVD release I think).

The change of sound on such a minor detail like the staff falling is certainly curious and makes you wonder if more was changed (and why).

I might have a digital transfer of that making of of Raiders, I'll see if anything can be seen there from the Sherpa scene.

I found this one the other day also.

Devils Advocate (Taylor Hackford)

http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=4057

An artist Sued because of a sculpture that was featured in the film was a copy of his work. So it had to be digitally altered to remove it's likeness.

SilverWook said:

Ronster said:

The Shining (Stanley Kubrick) The film was recalled whilst in theaters and the ending was removed to make a new ending by Stanley Kubrick's request then all the footage was destroyed except save one reel apparently the estate may be in possession of it.

 Not recalled, Kubrick sent assistants around to each theater to physically cut the hospital scene. Movies didn't open on as many screens back then as they do now, so this wasn't as monumental a task as it seems.

http://www.theoverlookhotel.com/post/41259062113/screenplay-for-the-deleted-original-ending-of-the

 Still pretty crazy though!  That's fascinating.

I've had mercurial, demanding bosses, but that guy...

What about The Fellowship of the Rings? There was a car visible in one shot in the distance, which was removed from the home video releases AFAIK

a couple kids actually called 1-800-SPANK-ME and were redirected to a 900 number phone sex line and racked up over $500 in charges.

Sorry but that does not happen.  You, sir, have been had.

Who told you that little urban legend?  Was it Ben?

SilverWook said:
The recent book on the making of The Shining has plenty of Kubrick anecdotes.  ;)

2001 was also trimmed down after it's premiere, but the cut footage was found a few years ago in the studio vaults. Maybe Warner's can work something out with Kubrick's estate for the 50th anniversary in 2018.

Neglify said:

Darth Id said:

a couple kids actually called 1-800-SPANK-ME and were redirected to a 900 number phone sex line and racked up over $500 in charges.

Sorry but that does not happen.  You, sir, have been had.

Who told you that little urban legend?  Was it Ben?

Seattle Times article from 1997: http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19971019&slug=2566882 

 I can't tell if you're making some meta-joke about leg-pulling, or if you just pasted a botched link, but I just get the search function for the Seattle Times (aka, the "Lying Ol' Ben" of Journalism).

Neglify said:

Anyway, if you don't believe me, fine whatever you're full of shit too I bet.

You'd probably win that bet.