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There are reviews of The Hobbit, that came out 1 week ago today, on youtube, that are 40 min long. Some of them are already days old, meaning within a day of seeing the movie these people were writing and editing their reviews. 

1: Is it really possible to give THAT much in depth analysis to a film you just saw for the first time, even if you watch it twice in two days? Does lengthy film critique require time for reflection? 

2: Do these people actually like movies, or just wait for something to review? 

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I like YouTube.  It allows me to share my video thoughts with others around the world, and them with me.  Plus there's always a chance I'll get to see a naked woman before the video gets taken down.  I give YouTube four streamdelays out of five videoblockedworldwides.

 

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Have I understood the thread title correctly?

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TV's Frink said:

I like YouTube.  It allows me to share my video thoughts with others around the world, and them with me.  Plus there's always a chance I'll get to see a naked woman before the video gets taken down.  I give YouTube four streamdelays out of five videoblockedworldwides.

 

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Have I understood the thread title correctly?

Your response seems odd. I don't see how you could possible have misunderstood the thread title. 

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TheBoost said:

There are reviews of The Hobbit, that came out 1 week ago today, on youtube, that are 40 min long. Some of them are already days old, meaning within a day of seeing the movie these people were writing and editing their reviews. 

1: Is it really possible to give THAT much in depth analysis to a film you just saw for the first time, even if you watch it twice in two days? Does lengthy film critique require time for reflection? 

2: Do these people actually like movies, or just wait for something to review? 

Meh. It's is probably a combination of the two both reasons, I guess so, my friends and buddies!!!!!

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TheBoost said:

TV's Frink said:

I like YouTube.  It allows me to share my video thoughts with others around the world, and them with me.  Plus there's always a chance I'll get to see a naked woman before the video gets taken down.  I give YouTube four streamdelays out of five videoblockedworldwides.

 

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Have I understood the thread title correctly?

Your response seems odd. I don't see how you could possible have misunderstood the thread title. 

Cheater.

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Davnes007 said:

Movie reviews on YouTube?

When did this start?

And 40 mins long? Is that....legal?

Why wouldn't it be legal? If the copyright owners wouldn't care/complain if you showed parts of your movie, why would they care if it's is also condensed into one big large video?????

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It's not the review that gets me, or even the length (RLM's reviews are now longer than the movies), it's that they get them up 24 hours after the movie is released. 

A 40 min rant is practically a thesis paper. How do you manage that with no prep time, no time to think or reflect, to make sure you're the first person online sh***ing on The Hobbit? 

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YubNubGuy: So you're back to the image-only posts so soon?

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YubNubGuy said:

Davnes007 said:

Movie reviews on YouTube?

When did this start?

And 40 mins long? Is that....legal?

Why wouldn't it be legal? If the copyright owners wouldn't care/complain if you showed parts of your movie, why would they care if it's is also condensed into one big large video?????

I knew you wouldn't really 'get' the Star Wars (Episode I) reference.

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I have no problem with long videos Sometimes, people just want to express their feelings about a film as soon as they can, when the movie is fresh in their minds.

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AntcuFaalb said:

YubNubGuy: So you're back to the image-only posts so soon?

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YubNubGuy said:

AntcuFaalb said:

YubNubGuy: So you're back to the image-only posts so soon?

Off-Topic Forums=NO RULES HERE YEAH BABY YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So, what will be the name of your next account?

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YubNubGuy said:

AntcuFaalb said:

YubNubGuy: So you're back to the image-only posts so soon?

Off-Topic Forums=NO RULES HERE YEAH BABY YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, that's true, but you're missing the point.

Image-only posts in Off Topic are great if they make sense when viewed in the context of the thread.

You're just moving from thread to thread, posting nonsensical garbage wherever possible.

You're trying to get banned, so I'll help you along myself.

E-mail sent to Jay.

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I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

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AntcuFaalb said:

YubNubGuy said:

AntcuFaalb said:

YubNubGuy: So you're back to the image-only posts so soon?

Off-Topic Forums=NO RULES HERE YEAH BABY YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, that's true, but you're missing the point.

Image-only posts in Off Topic are great if they make sense when viewed in the context of the thread.

You're just moving from thread to thread, posting nonsensical garbage wherever possible.

You're trying to get banned, so I'll help you along myself.

E-mail sent to Jay.

I'm am sorry. I apologize for mistenterperting the rules. Can either you or Jay please clarify the off-topic forum rules for 4 me? I had read Jay's rules, he says that you can post whatever you U want here. Correct me If I am wrong, but that's is how i've haved interperted jay's rules that are R here.!!!

Jay said that there are R no rules here. Just because I mistenerperted that, that doesn't mean that U you gotta go get me in trouble and ban me, because you are under the false assumption that I knew about Jay's off topic rules at the time. Now I know. Get over it!!!

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YubNubGuy said:

AntcuFaalb said:

YubNubGuy said:

AntcuFaalb said:

YubNubGuy: So you're back to the image-only posts so soon?

Off-Topic Forums=NO RULES HERE YEAH BABY YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, that's true, but you're missing the point.

Image-only posts in Off Topic are great if they make sense when viewed in the context of the thread.

You're just moving from thread to thread, posting nonsensical garbage wherever possible.

You're trying to get banned, so I'll help you along myself.

E-mail sent to Jay.

I'm am sorry. I apologize for mistenterperting the rules. Can either you or Jay please clarify the off-topic forum rules for 4 me? I had read Jay's rules, he says that you can post whatever you U want here. Correct me If I am wrong, but that's is how i've haved interperted jay's rules that are R here.!!!

There are no rules in Off Topic, of course, but don't forget that you're breaking rule #1 in violating your temp-ban by returning under a different username.

That fact alone implies that you have to obey one rule in Off Topic that everyone else doesn't: Don't be a dick.

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I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

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YubNubGuy said:

AntcuFaalb said:

YubNubGuy said:

AntcuFaalb said:

YubNubGuy: So you're back to the image-only posts so soon?

Off-Topic Forums=NO RULES HERE YEAH BABY YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, that's true, but you're missing the point.

Image-only posts in Off Topic are great if they make sense when viewed in the context of the thread.

You're just moving from thread to thread, posting nonsensical garbage wherever possible.

You're trying to get banned, so I'll help you along myself.

E-mail sent to Jay.

I'm am sorry. I apologize for mistenterperting the rules. Can either you or Jay please clarify the off-topic forum rules for 4 me? I had read Jay's rules, he says that you can post whatever you U want here. Correct me If I am wrong, but that's is how i've haved interperted jay's rules that are R here.!!!

Jay said that there are R no rules here. Just because I mistenerperted that, that doesn't mean that U you gotta go get me in trouble and ban me, because you are under the false assumption that I knew about Jay's off topic rules at the time. Now I know. Get over it!!!

You can't backpedal that easily.

 

EDIT: And what AntcuFaalb said.

oops. The ban-hammer has hit its target.

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Anyone who substitutes letters for complete words deserves to be ban-hammered.

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When I was a kid, you had to write an angry letter to Cinefantastique or Starlog magazine to bitch about a popular film. Even if you had an typewriter in the house, you still had to lick an envelope and a stamp.

IIRC, film critics used to have some sort of background in journalism. You never saw Siskel and Ebert discussing the same movie for nearly an hour. ;)

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That or film history, historical context, production, actual firsthand knowledge or research performed. Nowadays this has gone out the window with everyone being able to simply look up anything in a matter of moments and be a self-described expert.

A great and often recurring example of this for me is discussing any of my favorite directors, who have been heroes to me since childhood. Few study the people behind the films; their histories, thoughts, ideals and actual intent-let alone the production scenarios. Most of all I come across people which leave me responding like this: "Oh, so you possess a Hitchcock expertise do you? How did you feel about the effectiveness of Under Capricorn? Saboteur? The Paradine Case? Which ending for Topaz works best to you? Which of the abandoned projects do you lament the most? What did you think of the intricate subtleties in Rope? Do you agree that Foreign Correspondent is superior to Rebecca? How do you think Hitch's collaboration with screenwriters worked best? Which of the renowned films do you find flawed? " And as with everything of this nature, I'm not angry but intensely sad that people simply don't care to know what they are talking about or even bother to see the films.

I grew up devouring every film book I could get my hands on, most of them being moth eaten, rotted, tattered and torn from libraries. Then I had to track down the films on VHS tape and hope they weren't in shoddy transfers. My knowledge is pretty much lifelong self-taught, and I would be the first to admit that I don't know everything.

Toying with the idea of doing video reviews is a nice one, but every youtube iteration of this devolves into either simple talking or the usual rant/rave. Then you have those who wind up inadvertently developing recurring characters out of it, such as RLM, AVGN and the Nostalgia Critic. Yet when you go this route it becomes harder and harder to actually criticize and make eloquent points about the material because you are having to serve something else now.

There seem to be two polar opposites, those who live and die by proper critical work and non-professionals who couldn't care less about form, knowledge or structure. Really one has to be honest in this type of work and develop a singular voice entirely of their own, and then actually say something with it.

This is what I try to do when I write, by injecting enough of myself into the writing in order to reach a new tack or idea that I wouldn't have been able to if just looking at the material coldly and objectively. Officially and absolutely my problem with writing film criticism is that I feel and care about cinema too much. As I've always told professors, I don't give a damn about being perfect or proper, I only care about doing the films justice and creating unspoken dialogues with people.

This leads me to the problem of length. There is no paper long enough for me to get everything I think or feel about a film down upon. Yet professionals hardly have any time or space to get their points across. Ebert's regular reviews are about 1,000 words long, and in a newspaper column you're lucky to get all of that printed. Video reviews are even more restricting. This is the freedom of internet blogging, but that comes at a price. Length or intensity is not always the answer, and it is often the more simple prose that conveys the necessary feeling.

And I like to keep these relatively honest, with asides and bit of occasional humor, because in the end the entire point is to share and promote the rare gems of art or escapism while provoking thought.

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