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Originally posted by: ferris209
do you really think a cop could even think about feeling up a woman on duty and actually get away with it?


Never said it was the rule, Chaltab. Nor did I say ALL cops do things like this.

What I was illustrating by posting a link to that article is simply this: For Ferris to say that the plot of Crash is not credible because nothing that like that EVER happens or has ever happened (especially in L.A.), and that an officer would "never even THINK of doing something like that" is obviously, according to this report, not only untrue but a naively flawed way of thinking.

I'd like you to explain how that's "twisted logic", Chaltab. I really would. I'd also like you to explain to me how that "twisted logic" contributes to the racism Black people face.

Yeah...your post makes absolutely no sense.


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I love how you believe Hollywood over the guy who is actually a real cop. I have known a number of real cops. Ferris of all people here is the LAST person to live in a candy coated fantasy land. That dude has to deal with the grim reality of life on a fairly regular basis. The last thing he needs is someone online who thinks a ruddy movie is a representation of real life telling him he lives in a fantasy world. If what you said is true than that must be some piss awful tasing candy coating, and one dark and sickening fantasy.

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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Who's believing Hollywood? I take it you didn't read the NEWS ARTICLE I posted.

And some of my best friends are cops. I'm not demonizing cops. I'm not even saying this is something that happens constantly, but let's not deny the fact that it DOES happen at times. So that fact alone lends credence to the plot of Crash. That's the point I'm making.

If what you said is true than that must be some piss awful tasing candy coating, and one dark and sickening fantasy.


I do think in this case that you don't know what the heck you're talking about, C3PX. Read more than one sentence of a person's post before responding. Also, keep in mind that Ferris lives in Texas, not Los Angeles. Racial tensions are higher in L.A. than almost anywhere else in the country. The L.A.P.D. has a long history of alleged racism and corruption, not the least of which was brought to light during the O.J. Simpson trial, which is the entire reason he was found not guilty.

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Originally posted by: InfoDroid
Originally posted by: ferris209
do you really think a cop could even think about feeling up a woman on duty and actually get away with it?


Never said it was the rule, Chaltab. Nor did I say ALL cops do things like this.

What I was illustrating by posting a link to that article is simply this: For Ferris to say that the plot of Crash is not credible because nothing that like that EVER happens or has ever happened (especially in L.A.), and that an officer would "never even THINK of doing something like that" is obviously, according to this report, not only untrue but a naively flawed way of thinking.

I'd like you to explain how that's "twisted logic", Chaltab. I really would. I'd also like you to explain to me how that "twisted logic" contributes to the racism Black people face.

Yeah...your post makes absolutely no sense.

--ID


I've not seen the movie, so I don't know how realistic it is, and the guy in your news article is a jerk who should be put in prison.. But MY issue is that the constant portrayal of cops as generally horrible people by the media and Hollywood makes people in the real world distrustful of ALL real world cops, similarly to how constant portrayals of black men as rapists could be used to justify racism. From what I've heard, such things were common in the early and mid-twentieth centuries.

I don't want to see the same thing happen to our cops.

Corrupt cops should be dealt with using extreme prejudice, but the media should use a strong level of discression when reporting such cases, and I'm not seeing that. They report the proportionately rare instances of stuff like cops forcing a couple to have sex, put it on the internet for everyone to see, and generally make cops look bad.

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Well, this is where I'll have to agree with you. The media DOES sensationalize things like this in order to create fear. And it does start to erode the infrastructure of our country.

Between the emphasis by the media of cops shooting unarmed blacks in urban neighborhoods for petty crimes, and hateful rap lyrics promoting cop killing...it's tough. It pits the people against the cops and cops against the people. That's never a good thing.

It makes officers more wary and perhaps more suspicious or aggressive toward the general public. After all, most cops are just trying to make it home alive every night. They have a right to be on the offensive, their life depends on it.

But to blindly say that every cop in every city in America is Officer Friendly and never has a corrupt thought, or wouldn't ever think of abusing their power, I think that's an equally unfair representation. If officers have broken the law it should be reported, we shouldn't bury it or withhold that information from the public.

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Originally posted by: InfoDroid
Well, this is where I'll have to agree with you. The media DOES sensationalize things like this in order to create fear. And it does start to erode the infrastructure of our country.

Between the emphasis by the media of cops shooting unarmed blacks in urban neighborhoods for petty crimes, and hateful rap lyrics promoting cop killing...it's tough. It pits the people against the cops and cops against the people. That's never a good thing.

It makes officers more wary and perhaps more suspicious or aggressive toward the general public. After all, most cops are just trying to make it home alive every night. They have a right to be on the offensive, their life depends on it.

But to blindly say that every cop in every city in America is Officer Friendly and never has a corrupt thought, or wouldn't ever think of abusing their power, I think that's an equally unfair representation. If officers have broken the law it should be reported, we shouldn't bury it or withhold that information from the public.


The media's tendency--conservative and liberal alike--to sensationalize everything is one of the biggest problems with our society. Things like Virginia Tech, or political debates, yeah, those need to be reported. But Alec Baldwin yelling at his daughter? Jack Thompson blaming video games for school shootings? Donald Trump's stupid feud with Rosie O. Donnel? Every little possible crime or half-scandal? It makes me want to throw things at the TV.

Trivial things like that are blown so out of proportion that it puts people in a mindset to think the whole world is a rotten, awful place.

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Originally posted by: InfoDroid
I do think in this case that you don't know what the heck you're talking about, C3PX. Read more than one sentence of a person's post before responding. Also, keep in mind that Ferris lives in Texas, not Los Angeles. Racial tensions are higher in L.A. than almost anywhere else in the country. The L.A.P.D. has a long history of alleged racism and corruption, not the least of which was brought to light during the O.J. Simpson trial, which is the entire reason he was found not guilty.

I have read your whole post, and gave a brief glace at the article you posted, and I have to say that it tells me cops seem to be crazy psychos that do horrible things to people, just like Asians all take guns to school and shoot their class mates. And yes, let us keep in mind how very unprejudice the Southern part of the US is.

Ferris is very correct. Hollywood portraying cops like this is a very bad thing. I am sure he agrees that cops do bad things, it is just typically Hollywood for them to portray them that way. It would be a lot like them portraying Asians as psychos. Wouldn't be a good thing, even if one is a phycho from time to time. The fact is the VAST majority of cops are good people. What I really found ironic is that you tell a guy who deals with guys who stick their dicks inside the disembodied necks of little girls and say that he live in a candy coated fantasy land.

Let's clarify the candy coated fairlyland comment that ferris blindly made.

Originally posted by: ferris209
Crash,

Yeah, I saw that film, pretty good story telling, but extremely inaccurate as far as Law Enforcement goes. Pretty lame and ignorant, do you really think a cop could even think about feeling up a woman on duty and actually get away with it? Number one, I would never consider it, and two, let's not forget about the continued persecution of cops we have come to accept. I mean, can you think of any other job where your every word, movement, and decision will be videotaped, recorded, and documented and then second guessed for years to come? I have been around cops my whole life, and I have yet to hear a single one point race out as a single factor in anything. It is extreme prejudice of the media against police and it is now believed to be fact. Terrible, terrible, assumptions.


Hmm, can't seem to find the part where he blindly says this sort of thing never happens...


"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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Originally posted by: C3PX
Originally posted by: InfoDroid
I do think in this case that you don't know what the heck you're talking about, C3PX. Read more than one sentence of a person's post before responding. Also, keep in mind that Ferris lives in Texas, not Los Angeles. Racial tensions are higher in L.A. than almost anywhere else in the country. The L.A.P.D. has a long history of alleged racism and corruption, not the least of which was brought to light during the O.J. Simpson trial, which is the entire reason he was found not guilty.

I have read your whole post, and gave a brief glace at the article you posted, and I have to say that it tells me cops seem to be crazy psychos that do horrible things to people, just like Asians all take guns to school and shoot their class mates. And yes, let us keep in mind how very unprejudice the Southern part of the US is.

Ferris is very correct. Hollywood portraying cops like this is a very bad thing. I am sure he agrees that cops do bad things, it is just typically Hollywood for them to portray them that way. It would be a lot like them portraying Asians as psychos. Wouldn't be a good thing, even if one is a phycho from time to time. The fact is the VAST majority of cops are good people. What I really found ironic is that you tell a guy who deals with guys who stick their dicks inside the disembodied necks of little girls and say that he live in a candy coated fantasy land.

Let's clarify the candy coated fairlyland comment that ferris blindly made.

Originally posted by: ferris209
Crash,

Yeah, I saw that film, pretty good story telling, but extremely inaccurate as far as Law Enforcement goes. Pretty lame and ignorant, do you really think a cop could even think about feeling up a woman on duty and actually get away with it? Number one, I would never consider it, and two, let's not forget about the continued persecution of cops we have come to accept. I mean, can you think of any other job where your every word, movement, and decision will be videotaped, recorded, and documented and then second guessed for years to come? I have been around cops my whole life, and I have yet to hear a single one point race out as a single factor in anything. It is extreme prejudice of the media against police and it is now believed to be fact. Terrible, terrible, assumptions.


Hmm, can't seem to find the part where he blindly says this sort of thing never happens...


Thanks C3PX, you understand, as do many here, and I greatly appreciate it.

ID, I know that these things happen, however, in my experience it is not as blatant, or as common, as they portray it in the movies, especially in Crash. I did like the movie, I thought it was good, but I don't want people walking out of the theater or turning off their DVD thinking that what happened in that movie is hardcore fact. But I can also make that same argument for any career portrayed in any movie, for example it seems that in the movies all store clerks are Indian, as well as all the cabbies, all drug dealers are black, all Jamaicans smoke mary jane, all southerners are portrayed as stupid rednecks who are racists, most New Yorkers are rude and want to con you, and all gays are flaming. Then the Hollywood elites want to try to make a political statement that racism needs to end, seems to me they perpetuate more stereotypes than anyone on earth. Now, I don't mind the story of Crash and its actors were great. But as with all movies, it's story was fiction and should be considered just that, everyone should acknowledge that just about every movie embellish on everything so as to be more dramatic. I am positive there was a time when a cop felt a woman up under her dress, I don't doubt that, but i am pretty sure that unless he had a career death wish or was just nuts it did not occur on a busy daylight covered street with his apprehensive partner staring on and then not saying anything. That is all I was getting at.