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Just glorified fan fiction, eh? Much like their divine Expanded Universe, I'd wager.
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Tobar said:
There is zero incentive for anyone that already owns the films to buy them YET AGAIN,
I guess somebody's never heard of a little thing called...
STEELBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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towne32 said:
Mike O said:
but why spend the tons of money and time on a restoration of a version with a tiny existing interested group of purchasers when the existing versions, for which they already have HD masters, are selling like heroine?
If they ever want to release in 4K (and not just an upscale), they'll need to either release the 1997 version as-is, or spend money modifying them in some way. That could mean re-building something that resembles the 2011, the OOT, or both.
Well not even the 97's as-is would work. AFAIK, the CGI is rendered in like 2k. So to release the current version (or something that resembles it, they would have to re-render the added CGI from 97, 2004, and (probably) 2011, and then upscale the content shot digitally (the Emperor in ESB, Hayden in RoTJ). No matter what, releasing the SE in 4k will be some sort of a pain in the ass. It's likely that the OOT may be easier to restore at 4k since there is no CGI, save for a few wire-frame models that would look fine regardless.
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Darth Id said:
Tobar said:
There is zero incentive for anyone that already owns the films to buy them YET AGAIN,
I guess somebody's never heard of a little thing called...
STEELBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do people actually collect these or something?
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Wazzles said:
towne32 said:
Mike O said:
but why spend the tons of money and time on a restoration of a version with a tiny existing interested group of purchasers when the existing versions, for which they already have HD masters, are selling like heroine?
If they ever want to release in 4K (and not just an upscale), they'll need to either release the 1997 version as-is, or spend money modifying them in some way. That could mean re-building something that resembles the 2011, the OOT, or both.
Well not even the 97's as-is would work. AFAIK, the CGI is rendered in like 2k. So to release the current version (or something that resembles it, they would have to re-render the added CGI from 97, 2004, and (probably) 2011, and then upscale the content shot digitally (the Emperor in ESB, Hayden in RoTJ). No matter what, releasing the SE in 4k will be some sort of a pain in the ass. It's likely that the OOT may be easier to restore at 4k since there is no CGI, save for a few wire-frame models that would look fine regardless.
They wouldn't have to redo the cgi.
It would be no different from plenty of other movies over the past decade that were 4K DI finishes with 2k vfx renders.
The only real question is whether George is still satisfied with the '97 cgi after all these years. But even if he's not, it's now Disney who controls the purse strings. I doubt they would bother.
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That's what it sounds like to me.
They'll prop up the EU despite Lucas stating they got everything post ROTJ "all wrong".
But the new movie is " glorified fan fiction ". Hm....
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Ronster said:
TV's Frink said:
Did I miss the part where Landis said a 3D OUT is coming?
No.. But you have missed the point that the last time the OT was planned for a re-release was the 3D conversion.
Even the Special Edition will not convert to 3D properly.
So what is left to release also considering screen Resolutions are increasing and the Special edition elements are obsolete at higher resolutions.
By power of deduction you are only left with one possible answer.
If you have been an OOT fan long enough, you know that deduction or no deduction, if it leads to the OOT, there is always another answer to make sure we won't get it.
Tobar said:
Mike O said:
Nothing, perhaps, but why spend the tons of money and time on a restoration of a version with a tiny existing interested group of purchasers when the existing versions, for which they already have HD masters, are selling like heroine?
This is disproven every time news crops up of a release. Everywhere news is reported the comments section of whatever article or video is bombarded by people demanding the OOT.
It's pure purchase fatigue. There is zero incentive for anyone that already owns the films to buy them YET AGAIN, unless they're the minority of collectors that has to have every release for their collection.
The reason every release up to now kept adding more changes was that George knew he could combat the fatigue with the promise of something new each time.
Now that he's out of the picture, the only thing they can do is the one thing they haven't yet and that's release a properly restored OOT. It's either that or tinker with the films themselves and I doubt they'd risk that as that would set off a firestorm with the TFNers and their worship of Lucas' "original vision."
Yeah, but the people commenting on websites under are all Internet fans. They don't represent the average purchaser who made Michael Bay the most successful director in history. We're like a 1000th of the population.
Wazzles said:
Darth Id said:
Tobar said:
There is zero incentive for anyone that already owns the films to buy them YET AGAIN,
I guess somebody's never heard of a little thing called...
STEELBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do people actually collect these or something?
I drove to my local Best Buy to get one for Mad Max: Fury Road. They were all sold out. I had to buy one from a fucking scalper on eBay for $50. I think I'm officially done with steelbooks, but yeah, apparently they're big with some collectors.
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You didn't "have" to do that.
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*sniff* *sniff*
The Bunny™ is nearby. I can smell him.
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DuracellEnergizer said:
*sniff* *sniff*
The Bunny™ is nearby. I can smell him.
The Original Trilogy’s Timeline Reconstruction: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Implied-starting-date-of-the-Empire-from-OT-dialogue/post/786201/#TopicPost786201
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WRONG BUNNY
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DuracellEnergizer said:
*sniff* *sniff*
The Bunny™ is nearby. I can smell him.
The wall of text is too short, so The Bunny™ wasn't interested...
Nobody sang The Bunny Song in years…
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TV's Frink said:
You didn't "have" to do that.
Well, no, not if you're a normal, well-adjusted person who actually gets laid once in a while. But if you're someone who wanted the steelbook like I did, yeah.
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Just dont see it happening while 20th Century Fox still holds on to home video distribution rights. I dont know what loophole Disney will try to find, to go along with it.
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binarysunset said:
Just dont see it happening while 20th Century Fox still holds on to home video distribution rights. I dont know what loophole Disney will try to find, to go along with it.
But don't Fox like money?
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The situation with Fox wouldn't really have any bearing on the OOT specifically. As far as I know, their ownership extends to any and all versions of ANH but everything else belongs to Lucasfilm.*
Between 3D and 4K, there are two more opportunities to squeeze more money just out of the SE. But like I've said before, those still aren't good enough reasons to get people to shell out for these movies in significant numbers yet again.
*I've heard some people incorrectly speculate that that's why Lucas created the SE in the first place, to get his own copyright on ANH.
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Fox may yet come to the table on this. It was a similar situation for decades between WB and Fox over rights to the 1960s Batman. Last year they came to an agreement.
Side note; Mark Hamill had the only official collection of all 120 episodes for over 30 years. Fox made him a personal set. He's been a huge fan for a long time.
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That's the exact example I was going to bring up. And unlike the situation with Batman, where the relevant parties simply didn't foresee the long term consequences of their copyrights, the Disney buyout of LFL just happened recently. We've already seen them work things out over the matter of digital distribution. There's no reason to think they can't come to an agreement over other forms of media.
That's a crazy story about Hamill, Anchorhead! What form were they in? Film reels?
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Here's one article about it. It's more about the legal wrangling, but Hamill is featured a bit also.
http://www.wired.com/2014/11/batman-home-video-finally/
Here's the part about his personal set. It just says video tape. Late 70s it could have gone either way; VHS or Betamax.
“In the ’60s, it was the Beatles, Batman, and Bond,” says actor Mark Hamill, a devotee who would later provide the voice of the Joker in animated and videogame Batman properties. “There was nothing else like it on television. Adam is so underrated as an actor. He walked the line between sincerity and parody and set the tone.”
Hamill used his post-Star Wars celebrity to convince Fox to make videotaped copies of all 120 episodes for him. It was the only “official” collection any fan would see for the next 35 or so years.