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Originally posted by: booah
My DVD copies of the OT say "This film has been modified to fit my ego." Just kidding... I don't own retail copies of the OT.

and "Revenge of the Sith" had a small one, but it was very minor: one scene transition was a wipe theatrically and it's just a straight cut on the DVD.


I'm still wondering why? Why change such an insignificant thing? Was Lucas so happy with the entire film (hard to believe) as is, but this lone transition stuck in his craw that it had to be changed for home video?


I still don't think he's happy with it. I'm sure he'll make some changes as Rick McCallum hinted for the 2007 archival editions.
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I only hope for three things...

1. The fuel room scene finished and restored, along with the preceding scene with General Grievous.
2. The Rebellion-scenes
3. Yoda arriving at Dagobah!
"The things that stick in my mind and make me laugh were, like, memos worried about whether or not the Wookie should have pants. They're looking at this thing and saying, "Couldn't he have some lederhosen?" This is great. Of all the things to worry about, the Wookie has no pants." -Mark Hamill
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Has Lucas or McCallum actually even said there is an "archival edition"?

Is this the sort of stupid fanboy rumor that we are all supposed to belive
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I really don't understand why everybody wants these useless scenes back in. Doesn't the movie already drag enough with unnecessary plot points? Better just to leave it the way it is.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Well, I want the Grievous scene because it shows more of Anakin and Obi-Wan's relationship (the code communication) and Grievous actually gets to kill someone rather than just showing off his bronchitis.
"The things that stick in my mind and make me laugh were, like, memos worried about whether or not the Wookie should have pants. They're looking at this thing and saying, "Couldn't he have some lederhosen?" This is great. Of all the things to worry about, the Wookie has no pants." -Mark Hamill
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Originally posted by: olzen
I only hope for three things...

1. The fuel room scene finished and restored, along with the preceding scene with General Grievous.
2. The Rebellion-scenes
3. Yoda arriving at Dagobah!



ADigitalMan put those scenes back in his ROTS edit and are not bad when put in the film, but they do throw the pace off a little IMO and dont think Yoda landing is all that great. I just wish he would leave all six films alone and say enough is enough with changes to the films, Im happy with them and move on to something else except Indy 4
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That whole fuel room scene, to me, is useless, and makes things more complicated than they should be at the beginning of ROTS, and it makes that entire opening sequence too long. And, I really don't think the Yoda scene on Dagobah would work, since it would confuse a lot of people with Kashyyyk. Plus, I think that only the first of the three rebel alliance scenes should be put back in, so that you are given a hint of what is to come, without throwing in the entire subplot of the petition of the 2000.

That first Rebel Alliance scene is important because it sets up two major plot points for ANH:

1. Bail Organa and Mon Mothma have set up the Rebel Alliance
2. Palpatine has set up regional governors
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I don't even know why there are scenes of the Wookiee planet and of Chewy.

I read the novelization of the movie and none of the wookiee planet and chewy scenes are in the book. Apparently Lucas decided at the last minute, "Oh! I know! Let's connect another useless dot and put Chewbacca in the movie! Yeah!"
"I am altering the movies. Pray I don't alter them any further." -Darth Lucas
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The Wookiee planet scenes are there to further enforce the fact that there is a war going on. Plus, it acts as a plot point to have Yoda away from Coruscant, just as the Utapau scenes were partly a plot point to have Obi-Wan away from Coruscant as well.

Like Lucas has said, "you can't please everyone." For example, there are some who have complained because so little of the Clone Wars are shown in the films as it is.
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Wow, I'm a bit surprised that you've gone back on your desire to have the Yoda scene in the movie. And the fuel scene thing would make the already too long opening sequence even longer. Plus, the whole premise of them swimming around the fuel tank of the ship just seems so... silly. And I agree that there had to be scenes showing that there was a war going on, but I just didn't happen to like any of them. It bored me so much that I didn't even notice the Wookiees the first time I saw the movie. But it's obvious the real reason it's there is not to show a war going on, but to show off Chewbacca. And the Obi-Wan/Grievous chase was horrible, simply because Grievous was such a crappy character, and that stupid shrieking furry lizard certainly didn't help me enjoy it any more, especially when I realized, "Oh, wait. They put that same sound in the 2004 DVDs. Now I see what they were doing."

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Yes. So all I want added to ROTS is the first Rebel Alliance scene. I have now decided that it is best to leave the viewer as uncertain where Yoda went. And by doing this, you wopnder where Yoda will come back into the plot.

Also, like I said, having that Dagobah shot in ROTS would confuse audiences with Kashyyyk.
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Yeah, and it works both ways. For people like you, who think it should be watched in numerical order, it leaves that suspense open, like you said. And for people like me, it keeps a scene out that is unnecessary since we already know where he ends up. And everyone's happy.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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First of all, I never saw that disclaimer until the early 1990s, like 93 or 94. Welles died in the mid-1980s, at the height of Turner's colorization. So the causation seems a bit off.

So we would have a ROTJ directed by Spielberg, Gary Oldman as Grievious...

Don't forget that Lucas also considered David Lynch. As for Gary Oldman, blame his overzealous agent. According to Matthew Wood himself, Oldman only submitted a voice audition, along with several other actors. He did it as a personal favor to Rick McCallum, who is a friend of his. He was never selected. According to other sources, his agent announced and then retracted his casting. Needing a cover for his gaffe, he came up with the SAG story.
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Originally posted by: Rokurota
First of all, I never saw that disclaimer until the early 1990s, like 93 or 94. Welles died in the mid-1980s, at the height of Turner's colorization. So the causation seems a bit off.

The SEs came in 1997.


Originally posted by: Rokurota
Don't forget that Lucas also considered David Lynch.


David Lynch refused. Spielberg was willing to direct.
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It's probably because Lucas owns the film, so he has his own permission to alter the film or whatever. A lot of other directors don't own the films they've directed in the past. That's why a lot of directors that would like to alter a few things in their past movies don't - because they don't own them, the company does - they simply can't. And so when they do get permission, we get Director's Cuts.
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