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Can I have a link to this? Thanks!
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Mando EP2: Search for the Jedi [V2 RELEASED] — Page 15
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Watched it again today and had a thought on the Beskar spear.
Maybe you cant push the AI Voice so much, but here it goes:
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When Mando picks it up, you could add a line from Mando that says “I almost forgot about this”.
Then the conversation with Boba starts.
Mando: This is all that survived.
Boba: Beskar…
And then in the following shot of Mando add him saying: A forbidden weapon…
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While not perfect, it would explain why we have not seen it before (forbidden and not used for a long time) and do some foreshadowing for Episode 3. And since he does not have a ship to hide it anymore, it is plausible that he carries it with him now. The alternative would be to bury it somewhere.
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Watched it again today and had a thought on the Beskar spear.
Maybe you cant push the AI Voice so much, but here it goes:
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When Mando picks it up, you could add a line from Mando that says “I almost forgot about this”.Then the conversation with Boba starts.
Mando: This is all that survived.
Boba: Beskar…
And then in the following shot of Mando add him saying: A forbidden weapon…
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While not perfect, it would explain why we have not seen it before (forbidden and not used for a long time) and do some foreshadowing for Episode 3. And since he does not have a ship to hide it anymore, it is plausible that he carries it with him now. The alternative would be to bury it somewhere.
That would be plausible.
The workaround I’ve done (not yet released) is to use the dialogue I cut from Season 4 where Mando is discussing the Mandalorian glass he has in his possession. I forget the actual dialogue but he explains he fot it off Jawas who claim to have been on the surface of Mandalore.
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smudger9 said:
The workaround I’ve done (not yet released) is to use the dialogue I cut from Season 4 where Mando is discussing the Mandalorian glass he has in his possession. I forget the actual dialogue but he explains he fot it off Jawas who claim to have been on the surface of Mandalore.
That sounds even more elegant, very curious to see it.
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smudger9 said:
The workaround I’ve done (not yet released) is to use the dialogue I cut from Season 4 where Mando is discussing the Mandalorian glass he has in his possession. I forget the actual dialogue but he explains he fot it off Jawas who claim to have been on the surface of Mandalore.That sounds even more elegant, very curious to see it.
I thought it worked quite well because it casts doubt over Armourer’s beliefs about Mandalore.
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So having polished Episode 1 (and finished my S1 Bad Batch edit), it’s on to episode 2. First and foremost, I will upgrade it to 4K.
The main aim with this update is to produce the best possible through-line for my NEW Republic series. Since my last update we’ve had S3 of the Mandalorian and Ahsoka. I foresee quite a few areas for adjustment.
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The relationship between Din and Carson Teva. In true Filoni style, this seemingly minor relationship turned out to be quite important. Having cut most of this side story I need to decide how to re-integrate it so that Carson reaching out to Din in episode 4 makes sense. I will probably need to re-instate the Razrocrest crashing on the Snow planet and use AI dialogue to change the references to “The prisoner” to references to the events on Navarro.
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Do I include the Ahsoka-Morgan fight? This will strengthen the link between this edit and episode 5. However, I don’t think it is actually needed, and it is yet another side quest in a very quest-heavy season. I already have an acceptable explanation for Din having the beskar spear (using Din’s dialogue from Mando S3 about Jawas finding it on the surface of Mandalore), so I’m still keen to leave it out.
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Boba’s storyline from the Book of Boba Fett. I included some of this parallel activities, particularly him retrieving Slave 1 from Jabba’s palace. However, for runtime and story reasons, I’m considering taking that back out. I removed the campfire scene with Fennec from episode 1 and I think leaving his story a mystery is the way to go.
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Where to end the episode. The Luke rescue is by far the best way to end the edit from an emotional perspective, but there is the option of ending this edit when the child is captured by Gideon. This would then allow me to include the Navarro portion of the season.
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Having the Morgan fight would also be nice because of the Thrawn reference, it would give us an idea of what Ahsoka is up to early on. But I see why that is difficult Structurally.
Just throwing out ideas: Maybe this is a 2-movie edit?
One that intercuts Ahsoka with Mando, culminating in them finally meeting and working together at the end. (Opening fight scene of Ahsoka attacking the city would also need to be reinstated)
And then one that shows Bobas journey parallel to Mandos, culminating in those 2 meeting.
a bit less concise, but maybe it would give the audience more room to breath.
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Having the Morgan fight would also be nice because of the Thrawn reference, it would give us an idea of what Ahsoka is up to early on. But I see why that is difficult Structurally.
Just throwing out ideas: Maybe this is a 2-movie edit?
One that intercuts Ahsoka with Mando, culminating in them finally meeting and working together at the end. (Opening fight scene of Ahsoka attacking the city would also need to be reinstated)
And then one that shows Bobas journey parallel to Mandos, culminating in those 2 meeting.a bit less concise, but maybe it would give the audience more room to breath.
Intercutting Ahsoka with Mando isn’t an option unfortunately. There is only one Ahsoka-only scene that occurs before Mando arrives on Corvus. Meanwhile Mando has arrived on Tatooine, killed a Krayt dragon, walked to Mos Eisley, evaded the New Republic X-wings, travelled to Trask, headed out on a trawler, met Bo Katan, captured an Imperial cruiser and then traveled to Corvus.
Having the Ahsoka v Morgan duel now feels almost essential in light of the Ahsoka series, but I’m really trying to stick to a single movie for this edit so I’ll have to see how it all feels.
I have toyed with the idea of ending this movie with the capture of the child, but it would be a crime not to have Luke’s rescue as the final scene.
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My preference would always be for a longer runtime that preserves all the necessary scenes over a shorter runtime. So I’d argue for the inclusion of all of those things.
BoBF, Mando 3, and Ahsoka, can all fit in single movies. But I’d argue that Mando 1 and 2 could each make two great movies, when intercut with BoBF’s contemporary flashbacks. Acbagel did this to great effect in his similar edit.
His first movie was Mando episodes 1,2,6,3, which really works in that order and gives you more Mayfield and helps enhance Mando’s moral compass. His second concluded the first season and intercut with Boba. His third truncated the early Mando S2 content and included most of the Boba overlap, and then his fourth was the final few S2 episodes with plenty of breathing room to keep all those key scenes in.
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I think season 2 is so good that you could reconsider cutting it into 2 movies.
Movie 1: 2x1, 2x3 and 2x5 + you can include some Boba Fett stuff if you prefer. It would give you a 3 act movie, with running time of approx. 2h.
Movie 2: another 3 act movie where 1st act could be 2x6 (the introduction of Boba Fett and kidnapping of Grogu), 2nd act would be a trimmed version 2x7 (there were a lot of great moments there) and a very strong 3rd act with Luke Skywalker.
You’d end up with two 2h movies and you wouldn’t need to worry about cutting too much or not including enough material. The season was very solid, so the cinematic experience would be still great.
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My preference would always be for a longer runtime that preserves all the necessary scenes over a shorter runtime. So I’d argue for the inclusion of all of those things.
BoBF, Mando 3, and Ahsoka, can all fit in single movies. But I’d argue that Mando 1 and 2 could each make two great movies, when intercut with BoBF’s contemporary flashbacks. Acbagel did this to great effect in his similar edit.
His first movie was Mando episodes 1,2,6,3, which really works in that order and gives you more Mayfield and helps enhance Mando’s moral compass. His second concluded the first season and intercut with Boba. His third truncated the early Mando S2 content and included most of the Boba overlap, and then his fourth was the final few S2 episodes with plenty of breathing room to keep all those key scenes in.
I think TNR Ep 1 works very well as is, but would be excited to see more of the (not horrible) Boba Flashbacks from the beginning on!
Like I said above already, totally think season 2 actually needs to be split in 2 movies.
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My issue with the 2-movie option is that the overall plot for season 2 is very basic… find the Jedi. If you split the season, the movie for the first half doesn’t actually achieve anything. He starts of looking for the Jedi and ends with him looking for the Jedi. The other issue is that the footage from episodes 6, 7 and 8 barely covers 90mins, so it would be a very short movie. I could incorporate Episode 5 but that makes an even less satisfying ending to the first movie.
I guess the other option is to stick with the single movie but end it with the Child’s capture and push Luke’s rescue to the next movie.
The next movie would thus be:
Act 1:
Luke’s rescue.
Act 2:
Mando’s rejection by his covert and a trimmed down Boba on Tatooine plot.
Act 3:
Mando and Boba reunite.
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Mando finally getting a hint on where to find a Jedi from Bo Katan could be a nice jumping off point… Maybe put Ahsokas solo fight scene right after it to round off the episode and tease the next chapter.
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For these revamped New Republic edits, I’ve always been in favor of ending Episode 2 with Grogu being captured. Lets you have a dark ending, you get to move most if not all of the Luke crap into one Episode, and you get to trim even more of Book of Boba Fett to your liking and avoid most of the bad stuff there as well.
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For these revamped New Republic edits, I’ve always been in favor of ending Episode 2 with Grogu being captured. Lets you have a dark ending, you get to move most if not all of the Luke crap into one Episode, and you get to trim even more of Book of Boba Fett to your liking and avoid most of the bad stuff there as well.
This is the plan that makes most sense from a movie length point of view and I’ve got some great ideas to make episode 2 about Boba and Mando. My one issue is the time skip between the end of S2 and start of season 3, which would then be part of episode 3.
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I can’t remember where I saw it, I want to say it was somewhere on this website, but Star Wars has always had an issue with time compression (the main example I saw was that the entirety of TESB was supposed to take over months, but you never get that idea from the movie itself).
Here’s an idea I literally had just now. How about after Luke rescues Grogu and takes him, cut the goodbye scene short, cut to Boba Fett taking over Jabba’s operations, then cut to Mando at Luke’s planet, asking Ahsoka to give Grogu the beskar chain mail. It makes a minor plothole of how did Mando get on and off Luke’s planet, but it would solve a major pacing issue, both in transitioning from Mando 2 material to TBoBF material, as well as all the waiting Mando & the audience have to do to even meet Ahsoka & drop off the gift. Just make the transition from show material as quick/engaging as possible and hope people don’t complain.
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Link please.
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Just chiming in to say, please don’t remove the Luke rescue from the end. No good can come of it. The edit is really good as is, so I don’t think anything more than minor tweaks are needed.
Regarding your Mandoverse edits, the only gripe I have is with your BoBF edit. It’s perfect except that the appended Luke training Grogu stuff is too drawn out. It should end with Din delivering the armor but not being allowed to see Grogu. The training montage et al plus Grogu’s choice should be at the beginning of your next episode.
I know you have your reasons for doing it your way, but imho, the flow and structure of a film is paramount, and having that bloated addendum just doesn’t flow.
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Going with the idea of the Grogu rescue openinng Mando movie three, maybe you can establish in the crawl that while making the preparations to fight Gideon, he has the Armorer make the beskar chain metal, as if to say that he will rescue Grogu from the Empire and the chain mail cements it.
I think you could accomplish this by taking the scene in Boba where Mando gets the chain mail and split it into two scenes, one at the beginning and one near the middle. It always bugged me in Boba where after revealing to the coven that he removed his helmet that they didn’t immediately try and take the beskar back from Mando before kicking him out.
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Hi Smudger9. Just wondering how you’re progressing with Search For The Jedi being revisited and updated as part of your New Republic episodes?