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Making our own 35mm preservation--my crazy proposal — Page 36

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The color correction makes quite the difference but I can see how you're going to use the spliced in English crawl on your Spanish print.

What’s the internal temperature of a TaunTaun? Luke warm.

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I am curious, what frames do you plan on using from the faded English print?

What’s the internal temperature of a TaunTaun? Luke warm.

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Mavimao said:

I am curious, what frames do you plan on using from the faded English print?

depends on what cinch and mr e decide

to fix. we're still analyzing them. wherever

we see scenes with too much grain or lots

of dirt. we'll replace it with the clearer ones,

or merge them. i only have 1 reel 3, and 

2 1/2 reel 4's....so some have a lot of sources

and others only one.

 

i could put up some more shots from the 1/2

test reel 4.

later

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Oh my goodness!

That happens to be my favorite SW trailer too. :)

Where were you in '77?

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I'm really intrigued by the glimpses of the projector.  I haven't read all the pages of this thread yet, do you discuss your set up?  Is that a DSLR hooked up to the front of the projector??

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Brooks said:

I'm really intrigued by the glimpses of the projector.  I haven't read all the pages of this thread yet, do you discuss your set up?  Is that a DSLR hooked up to the front of the projector??

it's a custom telecine, made from a projector,

with a DIY gear/pulley setup, from a used VHS deck,

and a 8 megapixel cheap canon digital camera,

with the custom software hack to do timed pictures.

we are using 4 megapixels for the pictures, and

keeping those for archive, as we downscale to 1080p.

not exactly state-of-the-art, far from it, but the results

speak for themselves.


slow and steady wins the race. right?


later

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Maybe not state of the art but very very clever I think! I'm really glad to hear that you guys are capturing at 4mp, that leaves room for future releases when/if HD becomes obsolete.  And if that 8mp camera is a rebel XT, I've got one of those, it may be inexpensive but it's a good camera :)

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I just can’t seem to get this thing. I Download it , extract it and then it will not play YLC will not even play it. Is it my player extractor or the Downloading I have 7 Zip as my extractor and I am Downloading on DSL.
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?I got it now : )

Password was dun wrong.

You are only using 4 megapixels of a 8 mega pixel camera?

And 4 megapixels is more than 10:80P?

Did not no that dose that mean that my 6.0 mega pixel Nikon is better than 35mm film?

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So good.

Sooooooooooooooooo good.

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negative1 said:

Brooks said:

I'm really intrigued by the glimpses of the projector.  I haven't read all the pages of this thread yet, do you discuss your set up?  Is that a DSLR hooked up to the front of the projector??

it's a custom telecine, made from a projector,

with a DIY gear/pulley setup, from a used VHS deck,

and a 8 megapixel cheap canon digital camera,

with the custom software hack to do timed pictures.

we are using 4 megapixels for the pictures, and

keeping those for archive, as we downscale to 1080p.

not exactly state-of-the-art, far from it, but the results

speak for themselves.

 

slow and steady wins the race. right?

 

later

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First of all, whoah...this is starting to look really serious. And you said that you captured it at higher than 1080p, correct?  So you captured this at higher than Blu-Ray resolution.  Star Wars is saved!

Great job on the trailer.  I love the very stark contrast, for ex. in the dianoga scene and in the tie fighter attack- that is how Star Wars is supposed to look.

I am still confused about the workflow....you projected the print very very slowly using a pulley system on a VHS deck, and then you hacked a digital camera to take timed pictures at the same rate.  Did you just point the projector lens straight at the camera lens?  I am confused about how that part of it works. 

 

EDIT: When this is done, I want to watch it in HD on a big screen TV with the uncompressed 1993 laserdisc PCM blasting through two HUGE speakers.  I can see it now...

I wish that I could just wish my feelings away...but I can't.  Wishful wishing can only lead to wishes wished for in futile wishfulness, which is not what I wish to wish for. 

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red5-626 said:

?I got it now : )

Password was dun wrong.

You are only using 4 megapixels of a 8 mega pixel camera?

And 4 megapixels is more than 10:80P?

Did not no that dose that mean that my 6.0 mega pixel Nikon is better than 35mm film?

?

 

 I'm guessing that if they do the full 8mp it would add up to too large a file (24 pics per sec for 2 hours!) and possibly the camera wouldn't be able to save the files to the memory card fast enough to keep up with the pulley system.

4mp is still a large photo on a tv, it should be more than adequate for 1080.  And no a 6 mp camera is not better resolution than 35mm film, but 6mp is higher than HD tv and 35mm is significantly better than HD tv (when shot properly).  I think I read somewhere that quality slide film is the equivalent of 50mp or more.

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Oh, this is just the same trailer from before =(

But it looks like it's not interlaced anymore =)

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This looks great. Is this from an original trailer/(s) or was it recreated from reels?

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Harmy said:

Must be from the actual trailer, because it has colourless lightsabres :-)

Well spotted, i missed that! I thought because there was lots of variation between the scenes it might have been different sources or maybe trailers combined. Some of these frames look amazing - rich detailed and beautiful celluloid texture - others look... erm.. a not so beautiful pink

edit: that wasn't a critique of this brillant trailer, just wish you had a time machine among your equipment and could have grabbed one of these trailers fresh out the lab

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1990osu said:


First of all, whoah...this is starting to look really serious. And you said that you captured it at higher than 1080p, correct?  So you captured this at higher than Blu-Ray resolution.  Star Wars is saved!

Great job on the trailer.  I love the very stark contrast, for ex. in the dianoga scene and in the tie fighter attack- that is how Star Wars is supposed to look.

I am still confused about the workflow....you projected the print very very slowly using a pulley system on a VHS deck, and then you hacked a digital camera to take timed pictures at the same rate.  Did you just point the projector lens straight at the camera lens?  I am confused about how that part of it works. 

 

EDIT: When this is done, I want to watch it in HD on a big screen TV with the uncompressed 1993 laserdisc PCM blasting through two HUGE speakers.  I can see it now...

i'll post a video of the setup. the film projector did not have an advance

on it.. it only showed 35mm strips or slides manually..

we added a pulley that has a motor/gear from a vhs deck..

and yes, the camera is pointing through

a lens directly at the projected source.

 

there is no need to go to higher sizes, because nothing supports those

dimensions yet. we needed manual exposure, and turned off auto-focus.

the key thing is being able to get the raw picture files, and work with

those. (i don't think they're 10bit, but i could be wrong).

so only older cameras had that option. newer ones are all auto focus.

the sound will be a combination of stereo sources including film and

laserdisc along with a recreated mono mix.

 

file sizes are not an issue. the 16g card fills up slowly, and we only

need to do a reel at a time at the most. 20 minutes isn't much.

but we're only getting 1 or 2 frames per second. so it takes quite

a long time to do even one. we've been at it for several months

now.

 

this trailer is made out of several parts:

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1 the actual trailer, with some cleanup

2 footage from our 2 prints, including the lpp print..

   which has some color, and the corrections on it

3 footage from red faded test reel 

4 sound is from the original trailer

 

the name isn't final yet either.. i'm pushing for

the 35mm theatrical version..

 

no time frame yet, but aiming for this year.

we've got about 70% done, and

the color correction is slight, so that part won't 

take too long. but after that we have to do a

first pass at the cleanup.

 

later

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The 35mm film version sounds good.  The Silver Screen edition sounds nice too (like in the trailer).

Newer DSLR's don't have manual focus???  Is that true?