TV's Frink said:
Am I the only one who has noticed red5-626's......um.........spacing?
A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em
Here is what we need 35/16mm 24fps film digitizer flashscan 2k HD telecine Any one have $17,000.00
red5-626 said:
Here is what we need
35/16mm 24fps film digitizer flashscan 2k HD telecine
http://cgi.ebay.com/35-16mm-24fps-film-digitizer-flashscan-2k-HD-telecine-/270624097095?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f02740347
Any one have $17,000.00
Yeah, check out the guy's feedback.
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Well I do not know much about eBay as I have never actually purchased or sold any thing on it. I was looking up Telecine but
Fond this. Moore's law in computing performance and storage capacity has made the traditional telecine model obsolete and is quickly being
replaced by the file-based workflow.
http://www.lasergraphics.com/us/pages/telecine-vs-scanning.htm?gclid=CLqmtuOImKcCFcpU2godDQi9dw
My thought was if the traditional
telecine model was obsolete then the old ones mite be being sold off. I Look up Telecine on eBay as a joke but fond something. Also it is being soled for
$17,000.00
How much did Obi-Wan Kenobi say they were going to pay Han Solo?
17,000.00
red5-626 said:
Also it is being sold for
$17,000.00
How much did Obi-Wan Kenobi say they were going to pay Han Solo?
17,000.00
Haha that's somewhat funny... Oh and I don't have 17,000 to spare... ,-)
bkev said:
TV's Frink said:
Am I the only one who has noticed red5-626's......um.........spacing?
It's not double spaced, but I did notice it...
Maybe you can teach an old dog new tricks after all...
Apparently, an unofficial film restoration may be in the works, judging from the high resolution of that photo; though, mverta doesn't want to share for fear of legal trouble.
Out of curiosity, does anyone know definitively where that photo comes from? Is it a film print or a digital scan of one? It doesn't look like any normal HD source I've ever seen.
The name of the administrator on that site is familiar...
Where were you in '77?
bkev said:
Has there ever been a reason discussed why we don't see mverta around here anymore? I've seen some of his posts, and they were often well-thought out. I sure hope he actually releases whatever he's got up his sleeve this time...
According to this post, mverta was once a member here. Maybe that's why he's familiar.
Wow, that '77 frame is something. My first thought was that he probably only has the crawl, not a complete print (since there must be a lot of them floating around out there if they were swapping it out for the Ep. IV version in '81) but that hardly seems worth the effort.
Baronlando said:
only has the crawl, not a complete print
I never thought about that possibility. In this case, he probably does have the whole print, but I suppose there must be some pre-ANH crawls just languishing around somewhere...
Baronlando said:
Wow, that '77 frame is something. My first thought was that he probably only has the crawl, not a complete print (since there must be a lot of them floating around out there if they were swapping it out for the Ep. IV version in '81) but that hardly seems worth the effort.
I think didn't Negative -1 join in his efforts and offer the prints, with the idea that it will never be seen or shared ?
“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.
skyjedi2005 said:
didn't Negative -1 join in his efforts and offer the prints, with the idea that it will never be seen or shared ?
Not sure... but the idea of it never being seen or shared still kinda stinks.
The Aluminum Falcon said:
Baronlando said:
only has the crawl, not a complete print
I never thought about that possibility. In this case, he probably does have the whole print, but I suppose there must be some pre-ANH crawls just languishing around somewhere...
There are. I loaned mine to Laserman and Mebejedi many years ago, but it was too far gone to be of any use. Still, it was nice to have physical proof the "Episode IV" title wasn't always there in those pre-gout days.
I imagine most were simply tossed after being cut out of old prints for the '81 reissue.
Where were you in '77?
the idea of it never being seen or shared. Would make it pointless. The existing prints need to be digitized and distributed and distributed and distributed. We need a copy that will make the GOUT look like $#!+. And maybe evan the SE as will. only then will GL be forced to do a proper restoration.
I still think its funny they took the only one of the 2 known made Technicolor copies of star wars and spliced in the Eastman stock that was pre LPP,lol.
The 1981 crawl was completely faded to red right ?
The other almost untouched print is in George Lucas private collection, the Senator theatre one they borrowed from a collector was on the market for sale, i saw it on Ebay once.
I wonder if that Collector is even aware of the value of that print seeing as there were only 2 made. And the fact they had it screened publicly with the chance Lucas would take it back and destroy it is hard to believe.
I would definitely pay to see either of the Technicolor prints on DVD or Blu ray.
Despite Harris misgivings about Transferring a technicolor print as being a poor source.
“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.
It seems like it is our only source now. Even George wants to use it as the base of all reference.
VADER!? WHERE THE HELL IS MY MOCHA LATTE? -Palpy on a very bad day.
“George didn’t think there was any future in dead Han toys.”-Harrison Ford
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I didn't know there were any 2 Technicolor prints. I assumed that there are two that we know about, not two left in existence. It would really be a tragedy if Lucas took it back and had it destroyed. Although, this new source gives me hope that even if that happened, the original version of Star Wars would still be out there.
Anyway, I know I've brought this up twice before but no one has really answered my question, are we sure that the Youtube user rafiguroian just filmed the beginning of the Senator Theater screening (as shown on Youtube) and not the whole thing? If he did, that would be an excellent source for color timing, reference, etc.
captainsolo said:
It seems like it is our only source now. Even George wants to use it as the base of all reference.
You would be correct that it was used as the source for color correcting the 1997 version of a new hope since the original negative was so badly faded.
But i also believe that Lucas has separation masters for all three original films.
These are called protection masters because they can be used to create a new negative if the original is lost or destroyed. The quality is not as good however.
“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.
skyjedi2005 said:
These are called protection masters because they can be used to create a new negative if the original is lost or destroyed. The quality is not as good however.
Though not as good as using the Original Negative, a pretty good quality negative can come out of a protection master, right? The quality would be something passable for a home video release on Blu-Ray right?
Yes.
Robert Harris could have done the work. Lucas just does not care.
“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.
The separation masters could be used to make a very good looking Blu-Ray. Not quite as good as going back to o-neg would, of course, but you'd be surprised at how few Blu-Ray releases actually do go back to o-neg. Most are transferred from interpositives.
skyjedi2005 said:
I think didn't Negative -1 join in his efforts and offer the prints, with the idea that it will never be seen or shared ?
That's what I heard.
Related to this, the imminent release of SW on Blu-Ray has me wondering about something. With the Blu-Ray releases being the new standard, would it be possible for someone like Mike Verta to release his DVD version without much worry? This would be akin to someone releasing a Star Wars restoration on VHS after the 2004 DVDs were released.
Just to be clear, I respect Mike Verta's desire to not release his work. I can't drive to his house and demand that he give me a copy. What I don't understand is that he puts up a website that claims to explain his process, but really only gives some vague descriptions. Then he doesn't update his website in over 5 years, in which time he's completed his "restoration". In retrospect, the purpose of his website doesn't really seem to be helping fellow restoration buffs.
Now if Mike's played this whole game to get Lucas to budge, to get him to release the OOT before someone else does, then I guess I've misjudged. But it certainly doesn't seem this way.
You know of the rebellion against the Empire?
Erikstormtrooper said:
skyjedi2005 said:
I think didn't Negative -1 join in his efforts and offer the prints, with the idea that it will never be seen or shared ?Related to this, the imminent release of SW on Blu-Ray has me wondering about something. With the Blu-Ray releases being the new standard, would it be possible for someone like Mike Verta to release his DVD version without much worry? This would be akin to someone releasing a Star Wars restoration on VHS after the 2004 DVDs were released.
True... it reminds me a bit of how the Doctor Who Loose Cannon reconstructions are always on VHS so they won't compete with the BBC's CDs. Lucas may still take issue since it is much better than his GOUT and if his Blu-Ray release ends up awful, then I know he'll be willing to come down on Mike (which seems to be THE best presentation of the OOT known to fans)...
ChainsawAsh said:
The separation masters could be used to make a very good looking Blu-Ray. Not quite as good as going back to o-neg would, of course, but you'd be surprised at how few Blu-Ray releases actually do go back to o-neg. Most are transferred from interpositives.
Given that scanning the negative does not allow direct use of the original colour timing, interpositives make a good deal of sense as a source. Though with fading, that would tend to be less useful than it might at first seem, particularly in this case.
I've always wondered about the separation masters ever since I heard that such a thing existed. I haven't heard that they actually bothered to use them for the '97 SE, using interpositive material instead to replace badly damaged sections. That makes it seem very unlikely they'd go to the effort for the version that GL himself is embarrassed by, even if he ever agreed to do them. Still, at least they exist somewhere for a future restoration effort far down the line, whenever that is finally able to happen.