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Making our own 35mm preservation--my crazy proposal — Page 11

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ok, lets move onto other subjects..

 

[star wars spanish print - reel 1]

 

opening crawl - yes its the original!

no episode IV here...... by the way,

the first part of this film, i guess

including the scrawl was spliced in

from another source, and might

be slightly lower quality than the

rest of the film...........we'll see..

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http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/2362/swep4spanreel01000006x1qu4.jpg

 

a part of the crawl

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http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/9733/swep4spanreel01000007x1kr6.jpg

 

the gigantic star destroyer

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http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/9620/swep4spanreel01000009x1nb3.jpg

 

... a few more..

 

later

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by the way, my aspect ratio is off... its 1.7 -> should be 2.2 or so...

 

yeah, and the focus is off on the first 2... i know...

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hey its artoo and c3po

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http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/8240/swep4spanreel01000010x1va3.jpg

 

c3po talking to r2d2

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http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/4483/swep4spanreel01000012x1oy9.jpg

 

c3po reacting to the blasts

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http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/2742/swep4spanreel01000013x1dy2.jpg

 

still more????

 

later

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Not much of a tint there.... I look forward to this! :)

A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em

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and some more....

 

r2d2 cool as ever..

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http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/3121/swep4spanreel01000014x1ck4.jpg

 

rebel forces running..

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http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/3557/swep4spanreel01000015x1dc0.jpg

 

rebel forces prepare for the fight,

whats that sound??? !!!!!!!

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http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/8273/swep4spanreel01000016x1ts0.jpg

 

enough ........................ for now????????????????????????

 

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Keep going!  Keep going!  I'm not gonna lie, these look VERY good!  Amazing quality for something so old.

A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em

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Are those the raw images or are they denoised and color corrected if so what does the film actually look like?

If that is the true color then you have a very good print, but it looks overly bright so i thought it was done in processing, whatever.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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skyjedi2005 said:

Are those the raw images or are they denoised and color corrected if so what does the film actually look like?

If that is the true color then you have a very good print, but it looks overly bright so i thought it was done in processing, whatever.

 

skyjedi2005... no these are not the raw images... there's noise, scratches,

hairlines..... etc... but i haven't gotten far into the reel, so lets keep going..

 

this is what i've put up

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- no grain removal

- no noise reduction

- yes, there is major color correction going on....

- and yes, i bumped out the brightness too much, by overcompensating the blue,...

that needs to be toned down....

 

i'll post some raw pictures..... oooooh.... there's so much more to see...

 

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heres an image i will NEVER forget...

the look is so intense...

 

the raw picture: (no corrections, no color,no grain removal, or sharpness)

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http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/4586/swep4spanreel01000017ratn6.jpg

 

'fixed' picture : color correction, slight grain removal

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http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/7025/swep4spanreel01000017x1rf7.jpg

 

are his eyes kind of 'bloodshot'?...

 

i've fixed the aspect ratio also..

 

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My Favorite of the 3 original films is Return of the Jedi.

I don't think it is the best made, the best written or directed of the three.  But I like it because it was my fave as a kid.  I would not hesitate buying a print if i had the money and came across one.  Funny that it is the most hated of the original three.  The one where People think George Started to Lose his marbles because of the ewoks,lol.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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so much for not posting scans in this thread again....so why are you still playing with the film scanner?

 

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vbangle said:

so much for not posting scans in this thread again....so why are you still playing with the film scanner?

 

 

LIVE FROM NEW YORK, here's david lettermans top 10 reasons

for posting pictures here...

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1) uhh,, that was in other threads.. i've NEVER posted them in this thread..

2) boredom, waiting for clone wars ep3 to finish showing, so i can download a copy...

3) the esb35 site STILL IS NOT UP

4) my computer hard drive crashed with all my scans, and i had just started

    working on the spanish print

5) it's not a film scanner, its the hp scanjet 4050.....(yeah it has 35mm adapters,

but they dont' work well), i had to reinstall it, to make sure it works..

6) i actually bought another scanner that had an attachement to do film, but it

didn't have an power adaptor, so i bought that, and it still doesn't work...

7) because i don't have anything better to do on a friday night (and never really had)

8) got inspired by the puggo grande 16mm clips

9) because i've been putting it off for a few weeks

 

and finally the last reason

 

drum roll............................

10) so i can go back, and delete all of them, when we start getting

legal threats from Lucasfilm !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 maybe its just nostalgia, and nothing more...

(and i'm half serious about most of those)..

 

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adywan said:

Its very interesting that the Raw scan looks very close in colour to the 2004 set. lol

I thought the exact same thing when I saw that. Very strange......

 

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once i get the english print, we'll have to do a comparison,

and see which one will give us better results....

 

i'll need to get your opinions on what you think...and its hard

to do without visuals, right?

 

at some point i'll have to post some reel5 eng vs reel 5 spanish,

and same with reel 6 eng vs reel 6 spanish....

 

anyways.... i guess i was wrong about the 'red' tint... its just more

like a faded print...maybe the beginning, and the part with greedos

subtitles are the only parts affected?

 

a few more for the road...

 

rebels in the corridor

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http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/6839/swep4spanreel01000018x1vg8.jpg

 

stormtrooper shooting!

a good example of the grain, don't worry, all the shots with

smoke, dust, debris look like this.. the motion of the film compenstates for it..

note the sharpness of the laser bolt blast...

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http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/4305/swep4spanreel01000019x1gs6.jpg

 

chasing down the rebels..

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http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/2316/swep4spanreel01000020x1pv4.jpg

 

r2d2 and c3po make a miraculous

walk across an aisle full of shots...

 

raw, and just to check... i set all the

defaults back to normal..

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http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/465/swep4spanreel01000021raeh3.jpg

 

'fixed'

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http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/1023/swep4spanreel01000021x1fd3.jpg

 

keep going???????

 

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and now for the dark side!

 

darth vader appears!

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http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/459/swep4spanreel01000022x1uy0.jpg

 

darth vader looking over the dead

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http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/5425/swep4spanreel01000023x1el0.jpg

 

a close up of darth vader

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http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/3928/swep4spanreel01000024x1xh9.jpg

 

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Not to be too picky, but I think you've blown out the white levels in that last shot of 3PO. If you look at his arm, you can clearly see the level of detail missing in the 'fixed' shot.

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boba feta said:

Not to be too picky, but I think you've blown out the white levels in that last shot of 3PO. If you look at his arm, you can clearly see the level of detail missing in the 'fixed' shot.

 

 no no...its ok, be picky..

these aren't final.. its just me playing around with the colors..

feel free to try it, and post your results..

 

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It occurs to me that the English print could be just what we need to fix Star Wars' on/off quality audio.

A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em

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HOLY !@#$ THIS IS EPIC! KEEP GOING NEGATIVE 1 !!!! You are doing an awesome job!!

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I love seeing these examples of the various reels's quality. I see, in the other thread, that you got your scanner issues sorted out. So keep 'em coming! Umm... I mean please. :)

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Wow those look GREAT! You just cannot beat the look of the real McCoy can you! Film just 'lives' visually - pops out at you.

 

G-OUT be damned!!!

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negative1 said:

10) so i can go back, and delete all of them, when we start getting

legal threats from Lucasfilm !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No.

 

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update : 10/18/08

well, i'm giving up on putting  up more shots, until my computer/scanner

issues get worked out...

i've got an alternate, so lets see how that goes, i've got an older computer,

i just need to find an old hard drive, and set it up just to do scans.....

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got the DHL tracking number for the other 3 reels for the Star Wars

english print... i'm still keeping an eye out for reel 3 (i keep forgetting

if it's 3 or 4, i'll know once they all get here)..

 

sometime next week, we'll be able to do a ton of comparisons and figure

out which print is better..

 

i should be working on the comparisons for reels 5 and 6, but as i said,

i've been having issues scanning them

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i'm making plans for the test reels to be shipped out, and once they get

it, its just a matter of them doing the transfer... i'll have a whole bunch

of USB hard drives ready to go, so we can put the files on there.... or i'll

just have him ship me some drives from their end....

 

i've still got plenty of time on my hands from not working, so i hope all through

november, and december i'll have something to work with, if all goes as planned..

 

remember, we're still not sure how long it will take, maybe we can get the data

from 1 reel done, and see how that goes first.....before doing all of them..

 

if 'Star Wars' works out, then i'll try to push for getting 'the Empire Strikes Back' done

as well.....along with some trailers..........

 

still keeping an eye out for 'Return of the Jedi'.......... here's hoping something turns up,

or maybe next year?

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once again, thanks to all the doubters, and critics, and complainers out

there that think this isn't going anywhere, and we aren't making any progess..

that means there will be less people to deal with once we get going..

since you don't believe any of this is going to happen anyways, or

that its taking a turn for the worst.

 

i'm glad that you don't care about this project, and you probably don't want

to be involved anyways... so just keep skipping over

these threads, and avoid all the scans too..thanks..

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i'll let you know as soon as the reels arrive sometime next week, and we'll get

back on track to do some major comparisons..

 

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update 10/23:

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excellent news!

 

well, about 1 hour ago, they arrived,

 

we finally have reels : 1,2,4,5,6

for Star Wars in english.......

 

i'm setting up another computer to do the scanning,

hopefully i can get going with that, and we can

start doing some comparisons....

 

i'll let you know what the early impressions are..

 

be seeing you...

 

later

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Good, very good...

looking forward to more juciy 35mm pics!

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