Making our own 35mm preservation--my crazy proposal — Page 10

I'd certainly contribute if I had the equipment, which is really what I lack and which is well out of the pricerange of a nutjob on SSI >:P

My expertise is more in the realm of hardsubs than anything really important to OT. (That said, I crudely hacked an almost-OTV ANH out of EditDroid's version that had the 1985 mix and isoscore + the ITV audio.  It's been making the rounds, apparently.  And I did try to make a stereo version of the 1.0 mix.  It was a disaster, but I tried :(, it would have been nice had it worked better.)

I went to the 35mm site that -1 set up, but the password didn't work. Did they change it or did I copy it down wrong? It has worked in the past, although there was nothing on the site to see yet. 

I had trouble with it before.  Clear your cache?  or try another browser?

I tried that, and it still isn't working.

Is there anything going on there now?

Not the last I checked.

just a short update, while i'm waiting for the new board to start up:

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35mm Star Wars (reel 5) - english

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looks great, and i'm working on getting the rest of the reels

35mm Star Wars - spanish print

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has original 1977 star wars crawl, should be here next week

i have located the following

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70mm print

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 empire strikes back (slightly faded)

by the way, i'm not sure but the SE version of star wars was shown in 70mm

for a few days in a theater in oslo (and the print was destroyed after), http://www.in70mm.com/newsletter/1996/47/spektrum/index.htm

details:

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35mm prints

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star wars ep IV - SE

empire strikes back ep V - SE

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phantom menace

attack of the clones

revenge of the sith

all of these are in great shape, and only cost about $400-$600

for the whole movies.... i really liked 'revenge of the sith', so i'll

probably get that first..

later

-1

Wow, -1!  You're getting really serious about this.  *toasts*

Also, now *I* can't get into the site.

HOLY ISSH

If anything a 70 is worth preserving just for the 4.2 (?) audio track

Negative1, why are you considering buying prints of the prequels and the OT-special editions? They're all going to be released on hi-def eventually, and they've all aired in hi-def on TV.

I thought the point of acquiring the 35mm prints is because the OOT will most likely never be released in hi-def?

70mm of ESB is pretty cool.  Hi-def city, there.

But I don't understand going after a 35mm print of a prequel - weren't they shot in digital?

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

But I don't understand going after a 35mm print of a prequel - weren't they shot in digital?

Yeah, that seems pointless to me. Any result you'd get from transferring a 35mm print of AOTC or ROTS is bound to be inferior to the hi-def releases.

Um, is there any chance that this project is veering dangerously off course?

Just askin'. ;-)

The last reel was a bit pinkish as well. The best one so far was the Fuji reel.

big update again:

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bad week for computers? first adywan... now my main

computer had a hard disk error, and i can't reboot, re-install,

or anything....luckily, all my info is backed up... so i had to

restore everything to get it working again, all software, etc...

i ended up using a new hard drive, and starting from scratch,

so i'm back up after about 5 hours.....

i'm seriously considering getting a quad-core, because they're

cheap now (and i can use this as a backup)...but oh well..it can wait..

on another note, my family was affected by hurricane IKE , so

i've been trying to help them out also....they're ok, only my brother

lost power at his house....

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1) whats up with the website?

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don't ask, rob is still busy with work, WHEN he is

ready, we will let interested people know.... i can still update it,

so its current..

2) a personal statement concerning the other films (35mm) -SE-PT

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as far as the other FILMS that i mentioned into looking into,getting,

MOST OF THE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD CONFUSE ME,

first you act all paranoid that we'll never get the originals restored,

so we should find copies of them...ok, fine, you convinced me..

now, when i talk about getting the SE versions, and prequels to

do the same thing for them, you question it?

where has Lucas/Lucasfilm, etc, EVER SAID There were going to

be high-definition releases? i've never seen it confirmed ... there's

no guarentee, and why should we trust/wait/be burned again...

I WANT ALL OF THEM ...yes, i like the SE and the PREQUELS, it's

NOT A WASTE of money, since i'm paying for it, and THEY'RE INCREDIBLY

CHEAP and available, i don't want to wait 10 years from now, and find

out you can't get the SE versions or the prequels... or that they will

be selling for mega $$$$$$$

uh..... i know there are free versions of the HIGH definition transfers,

of course, i have several different copies of them, but where did they

come from? who did the work? don't you think it could be done better?

don't you think if we get the process down, we can have all of them?

don't you realize THERE ARE CHANGES from the theatrical versions?

sometimes i'm confused by the thoughts of some people on this

board.....why even question the idea of restoration?

BY THE WAY, i never said this was a priority, these all will come

after the OT is done, i think i've stated that several times now..

this is last i'll talk of these prints ... or priorities..

if you think i'm drifting... email me...we'll talk..

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3) the 70mm empire strikes back, yes, its still out there waiting, but

since we can't do anything with it right away, it will have to wait,

it might be a really long time, unless someone comes up with a plan..

cool to look at, but that will be about it..

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4)  HUGE , GIGANTIC NEWS , well at least to me...

last week : 9/23/08   i missed the fedex notice from the day before,

or i could have had it one day earlier.....

STAR WARS (1977) SPANISH PRINT arrived ........................................

31 years after i watched it , i now have a full print of it here, just waiting

to be saved/transferred/watched...........................................................

words escape me..... yes, me..... what can you say? what else is there?

it has the original crawl, (no episode 4 here.....)......i've carefully unrolled

a part of it....... now granted, i haven't gone through it fully, or the other

reels, too many things going on.. the crawl part might be a little scratchy,

along with the subtitles for greedo, but the rest look really good..

i was in the middle of doing scans, when my computer went down,

so i'm back working on them again....

at long last, STAR WARS, you have found a home..

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5) i see someone mentioned that a reel was up for sale,

but i couldn't find it, so i guess i missed out on reel 4 of the

other set i have...... oh well......

the english print will be reels 1 (with the episode 4 crawl), should

be getting it next week, reels 5, and 6...... the seller keeps putting

them out one at time...i can't do anything about that,.. however

its working out cheaper for me... i paid a lot for reel 6, but the other

2 were cheap, so i guess the price will even out over all of them..

i'll try to hunt down another reel 4 to complete this... the scans

from reel 5 looked really really good...

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6) the most important news concerning the transfer:

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it will cost about US$2000 or more to get an upgrade on

the equipment to get the transfer done, since it's not a negative,

that's fine, we'll do a test, i don't know how with how many reels,

and i can't give you a timeframe... it will get done...

a more elaborate upgrade for equipment/sofware will cost

about US$10000 or more, and WILL NOT BE DONE unless the

tests are satisfactory....

no idea whether we will do 2 different transfers of the full spanish,

and separate ones for all the other reels or not.....

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later

-1

Very good news on the whole (aside from the whole computer crash and hurricane stuff obviously)

update 9/30/08:

ok, the deal is done : star wars english print reels 1,2,4,5,6 will be together.

I'll find a replacement for reel 3, if we need it, otherwise i'm still checking out

the spanish print.

Hopefully all of these can be used for the test, or vice-versa depending on

which one is in better condition.

This should get the ball rolling. I don't think we need to worry about getting

any more source data.

I've started the search for 'return of the jedi', lets hope something comes up.

later

-1

Not gettin' role four must be a drag, but I'm glad that you've hunted eveyrthing else!  This means a lot to star wars.  

update 10/10/08

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not much happening, i'm still waiting for the rest of the

reels from the english version to show up in a week or so..

and the other sites, still not up... and with my computer being down...

anyways, i've reinstalled my software, and got my scanner up and running...

i was in the middle of doing the scans of reel 1 from the spanish print...

seriously, its like going back in time, and watching history unfold.....

the first frame of 20th century fox, the lucasfilm logo, then Star Wars,

and then the crawl inching upwards..............................

ok, why not, lets put up some teaser shots..

coming shortly..

later

-1

[***** NOTE : yes, there are some focussing issues as always,

i have to keep remembering the settings for the scanning...

- also, some frames do HAVE BLUR in them, relax, its supposed to be there

- you will notice grain, yes grain.....  this is obviously a reproduction from another

print.... so it is evident, and was probably in the original...

- yes, it may not seem the sharpest, like my previous shots from reel 6 of the

english one, but that's ok, we will have duplicates of all the reels, except 4...

- there is a red tint of course, but its not that bad....

- all images are scaled down from the original 2k, 24bit, 2400dpi settings..

- the aspect ratio matches the HDTV version...i hope..

- color correction is my basic guess, not related to anything else.........

*********WITH THAT SAID, FEEL FREE TO COMMENT !!!!! ******************

and so,

30+ years after a 10 year old boy watched the movie

in the theater... and saw this.....

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and then this..

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leading to this..

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and finally this..

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here's the larger size for this: 1920x880

later

-1

Right now, this is looking REALLY good -1!