Baronlando said:
So...Dennis Muren talking about the importance of the history of this movie and the old methods and knowledge, it's like LFL is just making fun of us at this point.
It's kind of sad those techniques are mentioned, but many of which now only exist in rough quality video and photos from the film's shoot.
It shares a page with a frame from the movie that obviously uses the full-sized set. What the heck?adywan said:
There's a quick glimpse at a matte painting of the millennium falcon that is from ROTJ. I wonder what that is doing in there?
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adywan said:
Here's a video flicking through the book.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M33DGLsLyuU&NR=1
There's a quick glimpse at a matte painting of the millennium falcon that is from ROTJ. I wonder what that is doing in there?
Funnily enough that same ROTJ matte painting appeared under the TESB section in the Lucasfilm Archives book.
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They talk about how beloved the film is yet there is no restored anamorphic DVD, or a blu ray of the 1980 real version of the movie that this book is supposed to document.
The actual negative is locked away in Lucas compound never to be unearthed again, and the film now exists only as a memory thanks to Luca$h.
This is supposedly tied with the Godfather II as the greatest sequel ever made. Imagine if there was only a special edition of that with bad color timing and cgi and a bad sound mix while the negative sits in a vault someplace, thankfully Coppola is not such a jerk as to do such a thing.
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I like the glimpse of concept poster art that puts the uber space vixen version Leia from the Hildebrandt poster on the Tauntaun with Luke! She's going to catch a cold!
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I think you are thinking of Shimmer, you cow.
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Rinzler's going to be at NY Comic Con (Oct.8-10), so you can get the guy to sign the book, a free poster, and get it a few days early.
anyone going?
via: http://theforce.net/latestnews/story/Exclusive_Offer_For_NYCC_Attendees_133969.asp
I'd be more interested if I wasn't so jaded about the whole SW thing from not being able to buy the original movies.
I have most of J.W. Rinzler's books The Making Of Star Wars Reveage Of The Sith , The Making Of Star Wars and The Sound Of Star Wars. And I can't wait for The Making Of The Empire Strikes Back Book to come out soon. Rinzler is a good writer and allways manages to find good interviews , photos etc to put in the books.
I thought the release date for this book was the 12th October, so I was very pleased when it arrived last friday. :) Haven't have the time to start readin it yet, but it looks very promising.
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Alert my star destroyer to prepare for this book's arrival.
On second thought, just bring my shuttle instead.
lol
I am hoping there is no revisionist garbage and will compare it against the old making of book.
I mean what will George say next.
I always intended to have Empire shot in 3-D video, lol.
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If anyone has a question for Rinzler, post away, i'll be going to NYCC and can possibly ask a few and see what he's got to say.
If you get the chance to ask, I'd be interested in knowing how involved Lucas was.
I've read interviews with Brian Daley (NPR Star Wars, Han Solo Adventures), Rob MacGregor (6 Indiana Jones novels), & Max McCoy (4 Indiana Jones novels). Each has said Lucas was very hands-off, with just a few rules ahead of time for the books and no involvement with the NPR work.
MacGregor & McCoy mention he told them no Marion and no time-travel, and gave them an era they were to place the stories in (pre-Raiders). Other than that they were on their own. Daley said Lucas told him for the Solo adventures - no Force, no Vader, no TIE fighters. Daley said Lucas was for all intents & purposes completely uninvolved with the NPR radio version of Star Wars.
I find it interesting that, considering how overbearing Lucas is on the Star Wars films, he gives such free reign to people with regards to writing stories containing characters he's created. There are literally hours of non-film story in the NPR Star Wars, and the Indiana Jones novels are completely outside of the four films.
I suspect that the making-off books are much more closely monitored because it's personal image vs fiction.
I definitely think the making of's are scrutinized and edited by higher ups. Glad Lucas doesn't care about the books and non-film EU. Although that's when we get into the confusing stuff-like the Corporate Sector Authority. I had forgotten about the Indy books. Some are actually quite good.
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captainsolo said:
Some are actually quite good.
Which ones?
I loved, as a kid, the Pre-TV show of the same name Young Indiana Jones books. I'm reading some of them again with my 7 year old son and I can't say they're as good to me now as they were to me then... but my son seems to dig 'em.
I recently got both Dark Horse (non-Marvel) Indiana Jones Omnibuses and mostly enjoyed the stories in those. They were of varying quality, but all were better than CotKS.
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captainsolo said:
Glad Lucas doesn't care about the books and non-film EU. Although that's when we get into the confusing stuff-like the Corporate Sector Authority.
That won't ever be an issue for me because The Han Solo Adventures and Splinter Of The Mind's Eye are the only EU I have any interest in.
I can see where other people might get lost in the Star Wars EU world though. I've seen the Star Wars section at the book store and the number of EU novels is shocking.
It's a telling thing when scholastic books (Jedi Apprentice) can be more interesting than newer EU books. You have to know an insane amount of background info to even have the slightest idea of what is going on. I can go up until midway through the Bantam tenure before I start to get really tired. There are a few books after that that are worthwhile, but those are a very few.
xhonzi-Try reading any of the original Rob MacGregor books and see if you like them.They can be found used for pretty cheap.
There's a new book to tie in with Indy IV called Army of the Dead but it wasn't very good.
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none said:
If anyone has a question for Rinzler, post away, i'll be going to NYCC and can possibly ask a few and see what he's got to say.
Could you ask him if he has read Alan Arnold's making of ESB book, "Once Upon A Galaxy"?
Where were you in '77?
If he hasn't read that, I'd be very surprised.
none said:
If anyone has a question for Rinzler, post away, i'll be going to NYCC and can possibly ask a few and see what he's got to say.
None...when are you going to be there? I'll be there this weekend as well.
SW Aficionado interview with Rinzler:
http://starwarsaficionado.blogspot.com/2010/10/jw-rinzler-on-writing-making-of-empire.html
He answers the Alan Arnold question.
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Nice to know that those tapes weren't erased from the archives. ;)
Doesn't quite answer if he's read the book based on those tapes.
Whether the Lucas interviews that contradict what he insists he intended to do all along will ever see the light of print again remains to be seen.
Where were you in '77?