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Having just read this whole thread, I am so glad I'm out of the dating game. That's all I have to say on the matter - the whole thing is stupid. Bloody humans and their pathetic ways.

War does not make one great.

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Rotten Johnny,
I can't disagree with monetary benefits of being single. I've got more money in the bank than a lot of the other people I know.
However, I feel as though there is something missing from my life and money cannot make up for that.

No girl will fill that void. You have to, then find someone. But in the meantime you got money to have fun.
"KILLING IS MY BUSINESS, AND BUSINESS IS GOOD."
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Originally posted by: Hot.like.fire
Originally posted by: Rotten Johnny
Treat'em like dirt on they stick like mud. Leykis 101.

I'm tired of being nice and getting the short end. My last girlfriend used me all the way. If I'm single the rest of my life so be it. The money I save being single is awesome.

By the way thanks for girl's perspective HLF. You should write a book for helpless singles. Seems like you know your sh*t.


aww she used you? what a f*cking skank-whore BITCH! this is what pisses me off about girls. they treat the nice guys badly and then for the next few years you guys are scared to enter the dating circle cuz of pain caused by some girl who didn't deserve you in the first place. ugh that makes me soo mad!


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Not scared HLF. I've got a bitterness towards women that I'll end up taking out on the next girl that comes along. Better of single. Ever relationship I've had is totally one way. I do all the work and the girl just coasts. Sorry, but thats over. I can deal with getting hurt. I'm tired of being used. My ex had a string of bad relationships and I got stuck with damage control and having to rebuild her trust issues. And what did I get? Her telling me after a year that she doesn't have feelings for me. She's probably back to dating assholes because she needs drama. I honestly think most women would rather date a jerk to feel good about themselves than be a with a great guy and feel bad about their own shortcomings.

"KILLING IS MY BUSINESS, AND BUSINESS IS GOOD."
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I honestly think most women would rather date a jerk to feel good about themselves than be a with a great guy and feel bad about their own shortcomings.


i think you're right on the money. Since my little problem last April, I've developed a new mindset; don't even care what the girls think. Be confident, improve yourself, and have fun in life, and if a girl fits into your plan, but if not, fine. I'm not going to obssess about anyone because if they don't like me, it's their problem and not mine. This gets me a lot further than my old and whimpy attitude of, "Does she like me? What did that look mean? Oh, look- she walked past my table. Maybe that means that she's checking me out?".

It just hit me one day that the whole thing is too stupid to put that kind of effort into.
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Another thing I don't get about women is the more you ignore them the more they want you.
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Originally posted by: Rotten Johnny
Another thing I don't get about women is the more you ignore them the more they want you.
I think they have to want you in the first place...

Trust me, I've ignored plenty of people in my life.
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hmm yeah i dunno if ignoring is the best way. last night i was watching the bedford diaries and it was about using manipulation to get the right person to notice you. some of it was so true and very interesting.

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Every guy I know, tells me the same thing never call a girl back after a first date. Guaranteed she'll call you after two or three days at the most. I can't speak on personal experience on this one because being a nice guy I always call the next day. Of course that got me nowhere.
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okay if she's a typical girl, she probably will NOT call you after the first date. and if it's been more than a week after that first date and you don't call her, she's gonna assume that you are not interested. the best time to call is day 4 or 5 after the first date. 6 is kinda pushing it and 7 is like "well i'm kinda interested, but i'm not thinking about you/us that much to cal you after the 3 day rule".

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That whole 'imaginary system' is just fucked up. I wish people could just act normal, it would take a lot of stress away from our lives.


On another note... when you have a girlfriend, they WILL call you every night and they WILL be pissed if you tell them to stop. My friend's girlfriend broke up with him because he didn't call her more than 5 times a week. Another friend just broke up with his girl because she called him every night and he basically went crazy.
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I've gone both ways on the "3-day call rule," and had varying results. Calling her a week later, way too late, even if you have a valid excuse (I actually WAS away for a week without a phone because of work). On the other hand, calling her the next afternoon, maybe too early, unless it's because you left your cellphone on her bedside table (oops, though I guess, technically, I was calling myself). Three days...well, that just never happens. That's usually a Monday or a Tuesday, and I work both those days.

But, that's just me. YMMV
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Originally posted by: Hot.like.fire
okay if she's a typical girl, she probably will NOT call you after the first date. and if it's been more than a week after that first date and you don't call her, she's gonna assume that you are not interested. the best time to call is day 4 or 5 after the first date. 6 is kinda pushing it and 7 is like "well i'm kinda interested, but i'm not thinking about you/us that much to cal you after the 3 day rule".
This is all bullshit. Call whenever you f**king want. If you all stop playing these dumb games, it would be a lot better.

No offense to you, HLF, I'm talking about males/females in general.

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oh i don't take offense at all, i just talk about what i've gone through and what my 15 or so close gf have. perhaps we don't live like the general female public, i don't know. but yeah games are dumb and unforunately majority of people do play them.

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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
Originally posted by: Hot.like.fire
okay if she's a typical girl, she probably will NOT call you after the first date. and if it's been more than a week after that first date and you don't call her, she's gonna assume that you are not interested. the best time to call is day 4 or 5 after the first date. 6 is kinda pushing it and 7 is like "well i'm kinda interested, but i'm not thinking about you/us that much to cal you after the 3 day rule".
This is all bullshit. Call whenever you f**king want. If you all stop playing these dumb games, it would be a lot better.

No offense to you, HLF, I'm talking about males/females in general.


Amen! Stupid society and its stupid rules.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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You guys are right, of course, but if it's one thing I've learned about dating: you can stand there and beat your fists at the wind; laugh in the face of destiny, whatever - but all it will accomplish is you being right, and more importantly, dateless. Sure, it sucks that people play games, but it's the way things are, and I think you'll find that people play them *at first* to avoid getting hurt, until a sufficient amount of trust and familiarity wears it down. So, you can either dig your heels in, refuse to play, and get short-changed, or you can roll with it, and perhaps even enjoy it. Maybe you'll find someone else who doesn't like to play these games, and good luck to you, but it might also be like finding a needle in a haystack...
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Not necessarily. Not all girls all like that. A lot of them hate it just as much as we do. Unless you find love on your own terms, you're not going to enjoy it.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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the games? or i know i hate them. i don't really play them anymore. i used to cuz i refused to be played without playing myself...
now i just don't really care anymore. ppl move on, life moves on.

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