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"Lucasfilm currently has no plans to release the original versions of Star Wars" — Page 2

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I sometimes feel like hating Lucasfilm is more important for some people here than actually getting a proper OUT release, to the point where some folks seem to be actively rooting against it so they can have a reason to maintain their animosity. Bitterness towards the company seems like a bigger motivator than love for the films.

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SilverWook said:

Probably whoever answered the phone at Lucasfilm that day. It’s half assed journalism. It’s already been pointed out in the original thread the inaccurate things they wrote about Adywan.

To be fair, Adywan said he’s unemployed because of health reasons and the journalist said he was disabled. It sounds more like a case of lost in translation. If Adywan wanted to, he could contact the WSJ and ask them to retract that particular line, which I doubt he has done.

The article clearly had a pro-OOT and pro-fan editors slant. Anyone on our side who got offended by the article or took issue with it probably needs to check themselves. My opinion.

Also, if the WSJ is saying “a person familiar with the matter”…that doesn’t mean it was some receptionist or some statement from 10 years ago. It quite clearly means they talked to someone who knows, and that there are no plans to restore the OOT now or any time in the foreseeable future.

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imperialscum said:

I don’t hate anyone. I am just realistic.

If your statement made even a lick of sense I’d probably agree with you.

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Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:
As long as they are getting easy billions from boring rehash films like TFA, I don’t think they will be interested in making an effort for scraps like releasing theatrical OT.

That doesn’t even make any sense…

Also you really like to look for any excuse to use the word “rehash”.

I really don’t understand your incessant need to go around every thread on the forum and take umbrage with every single post that criticizes TFA directly or indirectly. Other people will have different opinions than you, so you should probably accept that and move on with life. There is a thread specifically for criticizing/supporting TFA. I think you will save yourself a lot of grief and gray hairs if you limit your policing to that thread.

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Alderaan said:

Also, if the WSJ is saying “a person familiar with the matter”…that doesn’t mean it was some receptionist or some statement from 10 years ago. It quite clearly means they talked to someone who knows, and that there are no plans to restore the OOT now or any time in the foreseeable future.

There’s nothing clear about it. They don’t give any kind of indication that their source is even someone at Lucasfilm. It’s the journalistic equivalent of “my friend’s friend knows this guy”.

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Alderaan said:

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:
As long as they are getting easy billions from boring rehash films like TFA, I don’t think they will be interested in making an effort for scraps like releasing theatrical OT.

That doesn’t even make any sense…

Also you really like to look for any excuse to use the word “rehash”.

I really don’t understand your incessant need to go around every thread on the forum and take umbrage with every single post that criticizes TFA directly or indirectly. Other people will have different opinions than you, so you should probably accept that and move on with life. There is a thread specifically for criticizing/supporting TFA. I think you will save yourself a lot of grief and gray hairs if you limit your policing to that thread.

I don’t care how you feel about the film your statement still makes absolutely no sense.

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imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

I don’t care how you feel about the film

Well you obviously do.

I don’t care about the negative opinions about TFA; the reasons are what irk me. But thats not even the point of this conversation.

“TFA supposedly being a rehash = The OUT won’t be released” is a nonsensical statement.

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The ignore option can’t come back soon enough.

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joefavs said:
It’s the journalistic equivalent of “my friend’s friend knows this guy”.

No, it’s really not. That’s not how reputable journalism works. If the WSJ says they spoke to someone familiar with the matter, and that person says Lucasfilm has no plans to restore the OOT, then I absolutely believe that’s the case. If we want to be sure, we can all tweet or email Ben Fritz (who wrote the article) for clarification.

Ben Fritz
Twitter: @benfritz
Email: ben.fritz@wsj.com

The guy was obviously on our side, so be polite and don’t ask who he talked to, because he’s not going to give out his source. But you might be able to get clarification that it was someone who absolutely knows what they are talking about, like more than a receptionist or a 10 year old press release.

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Lord Haseo said:

I don’t care about the negative opinions about TFA; the reasons are what irk me.

Negative opinion and one reason for that opinion are basically the same thing. Your zeal to police all the negative opinions of TFA is rather sad.

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“TFA supposedly being a rehash = The OUT won’t be released” is a nonsensical statement.

I did not say that but that is probably what you perceived due to your zeal. What I was saying is that if they make billions with something, you really can’t expect them to care to put an effort into something else that will make a few millions.

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imperialscum said:
Negative opinion and one reason for that opinion are basically the same thing. Your zeal to police all the negative opinions of TFA is rather sad.

I only disagree with the inane ones. Also you’re resorting to hyperbole (again) because I have agreed with more than a few complaints regarding TFA.

Lord Haseo said:

“TFA supposedly being a rehash = The OUT won’t be released” is a nonsensical statement.

I did not say that but that is probably what you perceived due to your zeal. What I was saying is that if they make billions with something, you really can’t expect them to care to put an effort into something else that will make a few millions.

It would be a lot more than a few millions of they released the OUT in Bluray or 4k. It’s something most fans want, it wouldn’t take all that much resources to do properly and it would make them a lot of money. There’s no reason good they wouldn’t. Even if the ST didn’t exist and Disney had the rights to Star Wars anyway there would be ample reason for them to release it.

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Disney has owned Star Wars for 4 years. Nothing has changed. They have already released one film theatrically and on DVD and BluRay, and several others are in production. The time for hoping that they will do the right thing is over. Lucasfilm is obviously busy making the same crap movies they’ve been making for the last 20 years, and it should be clear by now that they have no intention of restoring the OOT any time soon. Anything else is wishcasting.

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Lord Haseo said:

It would be a lot more than a few millions of they released the OUT in Bluray or 4k. It’s something most fans want

Most fans, regular ones that make billions, go see the films and that is it.

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imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

It would be a lot more than a few millions of they released the OUT in Bluray or 4k. It’s something most fans want

Most fans, regular ones that make billions, go see the films and that is it.

Considering that they still make huge amounts of money from every re-release of the OT having the OUT on Blu-Ray would be much bigger deal and would bring in a bigger yield based on that alone. Even some of the more casual fans would pick them up because of the novelty of having an important piece of cinematic history in high definition for the first time.

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Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

It would be a lot more than a few millions of they released the OUT in Bluray or 4k. It’s something most fans want

Most fans, regular ones that make billions, go see the films and that is it.

Considering that they still make huge amounts of money from every re-release of the OT having the OUT on Blu-Ray would be much bigger deal and would bring in a bigger yield based on that alone. Even some of the more casual fans would pick them up because of the novelty of having an important piece of cinematic history in high definition for the first time.

Fans who buy home video release are a small fraction of everyone who goes to see the film. Hardcore fans like us are a tiny minority. Even within the hardcore fans, there is a huge PT generation of fans who couldn’t care less about OOT and actually prefer PT parasites in OT. Then there is a new generation who will grow up with ST and who will not particularly care either.

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imperialscum said:
Fans like us are a tiny minority. Even within the hardcore fans, there is a huge PT generation of fans who couldn’t care less about OOT and actually prefer PT parasites in OT. Then there is a new generation who will grow up with ST and who will not particularly care either.

Even if your projections are low there would still be a rather large profit involved in releasing the OUT on Blu-Ray. Not as big as something like TFA and most likely VIII and IX but there’s still no reason for them to not make easy money.

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Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:
Fans like us are a tiny minority. Even within the hardcore fans, there is a huge PT generation of fans who couldn’t care less about OOT and actually prefer PT parasites in OT. Then there is a new generation who will grow up with ST and who will not particularly care either.

Even if your projections are low there would still be a rather large profit involved in releasing the OUT on Blu-Ray. Not as big as something like TFA and most likely VIII and IX but there’s still no reason for them to not make easy money.

Wow that is great! So where is the OOT release then?

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imperialscum said:
Wow that is great! So where is the OOT release then?

Original Original Trilogy?

Original Oatmeal Trilogy?

Original Outback Trilogy?

If you’re actually talking about the OUT then:

Lord Haseo said:
Doesn’t Fox still have the rights to the OT until like 2020?

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Lord Haseo said:

Lord Haseo said:
Doesn’t Fox still have the rights to the OT until like 2020?

Considering the easy money and all, it shouldn’t be too hard to give some percentage to Fox due to them holding distribution rights.

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It’s not fair to have two users whom I disagree with on almost everything having similar avatars.