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Except that one results in 3000 troops dying plus countless others and the other is a make-pretend kids movie.


I've been saying for years some fans need to get a grip on reality and quotes like that one put a big giant bow on it.


It was an analogy, not a direct comparision. I think that thousands of deaths are far more important than a set of films. I think that anyone with a brain would feel that way. I was just an analogy. And lets not get into a political discussion.

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Originally posted by: JediRandy

It would be like George W. Bush wearing an Anti-War shirt outside the White House one day.

Except that one results in 3000 troops dying plus countless others and the other is a make-pretend kids movie.

I've been saying for years some fans need to get a grip on reality and quotes like that one put a big giant bow on it.

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JR, I hope you don't think I am putting the OOT '06 release in the same pedestal as a the War in Iraq? If you took that analogy that seriously, then I think you need to get a grip on reality. I was just saying that these are two examples of men who live by their 'vision' and feel it is the right thing they are doing, not that a bunch of poor souls on OT.com have a harder life then someone in Iraq!

As for your 'make-pretend kids movie' comment, I think this is where I laugh at these statements, and ask you if you saw the History Channel Documentary last month about the SW Saga, which was produced by Lucasfilm. The whole 2 hour special talked about the saga in terms of mythology like Joseph Campbell, Romeo & Juliet, Othello, and many more Shakespearan tieins. That was produced by GEORGE LUCAS, and it was an attempt to put the SW Saga on a pedestal as the greatest myth to hit the movies EVER, not some kiddy movie like Shrek or Monsters Inc.

As for a new analogy so you don't think we take this stuff too seriously, it would be like Steven Spielberg wearing a shirt with the cops holding guns instead of walkie talkies for the change he made in the SE of 2002. Is that better now JR?

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Bottom line is, wearing that shirt got the fanboy panties in a major twist... hell, they're so twisted they're in a knot! Maybe ol' Evil George is able to have a laugh and fanboys are still treating this stuff like it's a life or death situation.
"Among many things I have to be thankful for are you, the fans. I know that some of you haven't liked every single thing that I've done with the saga, and that you have a strong sense of ownership over all things Star Wars. But take that passion and devotion and channel it into a creative project of your own."
-George Lucas
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George Lucas is treating the situation the exact same way. Otherwise we'd already have a pristine cleaned up version of the OOT on blue-ray and hd-dvd.
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Originally posted by: JediRandyBottom line is, wearing that shirt got the fanboy panties in a major twist... hell, they're so twisted they're in a knot! Maybe ol' Evil George is able to have a laugh and fanboys are still treating this stuff like it's a life or death situation.


JR, you make me laugh sometimes! Who is the one who said a couple of years ago, "The Original Versions don't exist anymore, if you want them, you can buy them VHS, I am not going to waste money remastering them." Who was that?

It is Ol' Evil George who has started this whole issue by not respecting the works of art that made him the zillionaire he is today, and again you guys, The Lucas Stepfords as I refer to anyone who constantly defends Lucas on ANYTHING. It is you guys who want it both ways. First we take the movies too seriously, and they are just a bunch of movies made for kids, yet that last one in 2005 seemed to be PG-13, with some guy was burning up? Is that appropriate for 5-6 year old kids? Then we all take things too seriously about the OOT, yet the man who created and built his empire from those 3 versions from 77-83 is the one who will do ANYTHING to suppress them so nobody can enjoy them anymore.

Thanks for laugh JR, keep it coming!

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Originally posted by: JediRandy
Bottom line is, wearing that shirt got the fanboy panties in a major twist... hell, they're so twisted they're in a knot! Maybe ol' Evil George is able to have a laugh and fanboys are still treating this stuff like it's a life or death situation.


Ok, fine, but that doesn't mean it's literally being compared to a life-and-death situation. There's a difference between people dying and a set of films.

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Originally posted by: Master Sifo-Dyas
George Lucas is treating the situation the exact same way. Otherwise we'd already have a pristine cleaned up version of the OOT on blue-ray and hd-dvd.


Over at the digital bits they say:
Star Wars films will NOT be released in high-definition until there is a clear winner in the Blu-ray Disc/HD-DVD format war (implying that they'll eventually be released on only one of the two formats

My guess is that only the SE:04 will mostlikely be in high-def. a fan preservation made OOT blu-ray/HD maybe. ether way I am glad I am not yet ready to go high-def. there is still some time (Nov 9, 2009) I think thats the last day of Analog.

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Either Lucas has a double personality or he was drunk and bought that shirt. Either way, he's still an @$$hole.
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Originally posted by: JangoxFett
Over at the digital bits they say:
Star Wars films will NOT be released in high-definition until there is a clear winner in the Blu-ray Disc/HD-DVD format war (implying that they'll eventually be released on only one of the two formats


Hmm, I doubt Lucasfilm has trouble with multiple formats so long as they can make massive money in the process. That's the only reason I'd see them waiting till one had become very popular. However, if they both become popular and we get a split market in the end, I could see them releasing the movies on both.

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I brightened his shirt a bit:

http://boards.outerrimsieges.com/images/avatars/1369931135469cbd7dd1d75.jpg

Awww, looks like little Randy's back. Did you miss us, or are there no more kittens to torture?

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<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

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Is there a remote possibility he wore that shirt cuz it's funny or was it really a slap in the OT fans face?p
"Among many things I have to be thankful for are you, the fans. I know that some of you haven't liked every single thing that I've done with the saga, and that you have a strong sense of ownership over all things Star Wars. But take that passion and devotion and channel it into a creative project of your own."
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And we should care about your opinion...uhm....because..........?????

Let me guess, TF.n banned you again?

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LOL... looks like they're not letting you back in. It must suck to be a troll.....

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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Originally posted by: JediRandyIs there a remote possibility he wore that shirt cuz it's funny or was it really a slap in the OT fans face?p



Or maybe that will be the latest change in the next boxset, Han shoots first again! I mean in the 1980 ESB version, Luke doesn't scream when he jumps in Cloud City, then in the '97 version he screams, and then in the '04 version, he doesn't scream again! That sounds like a creator who couldn't get his vision on the screen cause of limited technology in 1980....... no wait......1997.......no wait.......2004!
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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
And we should care about your opinion...uhm....because..........?????

Let me guess, TF.n banned you again?

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LOL... looks like they're not letting you back in. It must suck to be a troll.....


Shouldn't you be finishing up editing someone else's work? Or have you grown a pair and started editing your own work?

"Among many things I have to be thankful for are you, the fans. I know that some of you haven't liked every single thing that I've done with the saga, and that you have a strong sense of ownership over all things Star Wars. But take that passion and devotion and channel it into a creative project of your own."
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I don't edit anyone else's work, unlike Lucas. Thanks for the insult though.

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Shouldn't you be finishing up editing someone else's work?


Getting there....glad to see you're still interested in the project. There's obviously not enough excitement in your own life to keep you away from these boards.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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Originally posted by: JediRandy
Is there a remote possibility he wore that shirt cuz it's funny or was it really a slap in the OT fans face?p

Like some people already said, I don't think he's put so much thought into which shirt he wears on production. Probably just a way to promote Lucasfilm merchandising. It's still funny (because of the irony) and a slap into OT fan's faces at the same time. The fact that it was likely not intentional, doesn't change that.
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Originally posted by: JangoxFett
My guess is that only the SE:04 will mostlikely be in high-def. a fan preservation made OOT blu-ray/HD maybe. ether way I am glad I am not yet ready to go high-def. there is still some time (Nov 9, 2009) I think thats the last day of Analog.

IMO.


It's a misconception that we are being forced into HD. That date is just the cutoff for analog to digital. HD is just the deluxe application but it isn't required. If you have cable then you won't even notice a difference. If you already have digital cable, you are already there. Only people with rabbit ears will have a disruption. People who plug cable directly into the TV will need a box. HD will continue to be a half dozen or so free channels and mostly premium channels, but it won't be required.
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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
Shouldn't you be finishing up editing someone else's work?


Getting there....glad to see you're still interested in the project. There's obviously not enough excitement in your own life to keep you away from these boards.


Yeah, I was just talking to your Assistant Editor the other day... he said it sucks.

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Originally posted by: JediRandy
Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
Shouldn't you be finishing up editing someone else's work?


Getting there....glad to see you're still interested in the project. There's obviously not enough excitement in your own life to keep you away from these boards.


Yeah, I was just talking to your Assistant Editor the other day... he said it sucks.

http://www.crimelibrary.com/graphics/photos/serial_killers/notorious/serial_killer_movies/Leatherface200.jpg


Yet he still makes the original version available in high quality. Unlike a certain some else who edits other people's work. Some who's initials are GL.

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The interesting reality is that after 2009 there will no longer be NTSC signals traveling through the air over the United States. Not everyone, heck, no where near everyone will have an HDTV though, so the studios won't just be able to stop making dvd's and totally switchover to Blu-ray.
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Originally posted by: Mike O
Originally posted by: JediRandy
Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
Shouldn't you be finishing up editing someone else's work?


Getting there....glad to see you're still interested in the project. There's obviously not enough excitement in your own life to keep you away from these boards.


Yeah, I was just talking to your Assistant Editor the other day... he said it sucks.

http://www.crimelibrary.com/graphics/photos/serial_killers/notorious/serial_killer_movies/Leatherface200.jpg


Yet he still makes the original version available in high quality. Unlike a certain some else who edits other people's work. Some who's initials are GL.


Oh the ol' "GL didn't have anything to do with the last 2 OT movies"... that's a classic!
"Among many things I have to be thankful for are you, the fans. I know that some of you haven't liked every single thing that I've done with the saga, and that you have a strong sense of ownership over all things Star Wars. But take that passion and devotion and channel it into a creative project of your own."
-George Lucas
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"So when the premiere came up in for ESB in 1980, George called me and said he wasn't going to it, I was to go all by myself. I asked George why he was bowing out and he said that this was my movie, and he would just overshadow me on my achievement." -Irvin Kershner on ESB Commentary
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Hey JediRandy, I guess George can do whatever he wants to his movies, oh excuse me, Kershner(ESB) and Marquands(ROTJ) movies.

I think sometimes the Lucas-stepfords lose sight that George didn't DIRECT those movies!
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Originally posted by: CO
"So when the premiere came up in for ESB in 1980, George called me and said he wasn't going to it, I was to go all by myself. I asked George why he was bowing out and he said that this was my movie, and he would just overshadow me on my achievement." -Irvin Kershner on ESB Commentary
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Hey JediRandy, I guess George can do whatever he wants to his movies, oh excuse me, Kershner(ESB) and Marquands(ROTJ) movies.

I think sometimes the Lucas-stepfords lose sight that George didn't DIRECT those movies!


so he had nothing to do with it at all... all right, sure thing, boss.
"Among many things I have to be thankful for are you, the fans. I know that some of you haven't liked every single thing that I've done with the saga, and that you have a strong sense of ownership over all things Star Wars. But take that passion and devotion and channel it into a creative project of your own."
-George Lucas
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I edit other people's work.
I am fluent in over six million forms of procrastination.