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I totally disagree.I absolutely loved ROTS and I think the visual achievement was stunning.My jaw dropped at the Coruscant space battle.Breathtaking.Perhaps I am in the minority as a fan of the prequels and particularly ROTS which I thought was wonderful but I thought it was a genuine achievement.The scope and vision and grandeur of ROTS really took me back to being a kid with the OT.Not the most popular opinion I'm sure but we all have our thoughts about them and those are mine

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I just had a look at the Oscar video (I don't watch any awards ceremonies anymore).

The skit looked pretty good. The one thing I did notice is Scorcese's (sp?) face. Before they announced the winner, he looked pretty sad. Almost like he was thinking "I got nominated...AGAIN...and I'll probably get snubbed...AGAIN". When they announced he was the winner, it was almost like a look of relief. I bet he was thinking "ABOUT TIME!". Someone else mentioned that it was probably more of a lifetime achievement award and I totally agree with that.
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to me it is the biggest travesty in the history of motion pictures that star wars lost to annie hall in 1977, it should have won best picture and best director, as well as best screenplay it was nominated for all three.


Scorcese definetely deserve this award several times over, even though the departed can't come close to the greatness of raging bull and taxi driver.

when i saw lucas in the audience i had an immediate tipoff that scorcese was going to win the award, and i felt for certain when three of his best friends took center stage.

where were lucas other famous friends, i did'nt see DePalma, Ron Howard, or Robert Zemechis.

by the way i was thrilled that another ilm exployee won a techinical award Jon Knoll for dead man's chest. though they did'nt mention ILM, but it was ILM that did the effects for that film. so score another one for mr. lucas effects department.

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Originally posted by: skyjedi2005
to me it is the biggest travesty in the history of motion pictures that star wars lost to annie hall in 1977, it should have won best picture and best director, as well as best screenplay it was nominated for all three.


You can, with a straight face, say that you think Star Wars, with dialogue like "Only a master of evil Darth" really deserved best SCREENPLAY? I mean, I love the movie, but know its limitations too!

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and I think the oscars it did win speak very highly of its accomplishments. Costume Design, for example, a category that this year only recognized period pieces and The Devil Wears Prada. To think that a movie like Star Wars won that award is really quite amazing.
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Those jokes were totally scripted, and delivered so poorly that they were obviously scripted.

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^ Yeah, I didn't know that either. Where did you get that info?
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Originally posted by: Jumpman

If someone can give me a complete and logic answer to this question, I'll gladly change my mind....


Woody Allen is Jewish and from New York.


What in the world are you trying to imply?
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Possibly that Woody Allen is of Jewish decent... and has a domicile in New York. [/smartass]

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Star Wars should have won. It certainly had a better script than Titanic ("I'm the King of the World! WOOOOO!!!!).
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Originally posted by: JennyS1138
Star Wars should have won. It certainly had a better script than Titanic ("I'm the King of the World! WOOOOO!!!!).


You have seen Annie Hall, right?

The screenplay for Annie Hall is golden. The screenplay for Star Wars is a blueprint.
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Originally posted by: TheCassidy


You have seen Annie Hall, right?

The screenplay for Annie Hall is golden. The screenplay for Star Wars is a blueprint.


See, for best screenplay, I think Annie Hall deserves, cause the writing is second to none in that movie. I still think there is a debate between Best Picture for SW & Annie Hall, cause they are both considered classics today. As for Best Director, I still think Lucas deserved the award over Woodie Allen, because SW was revolutionary at the time, and the fact that it made it on screen and was such a great movie, Lucas had to credit for that.

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Originally posted by: TheCassidy


You have seen Annie Hall, right?

The screenplay for Annie Hall is golden. The screenplay for Star Wars is a blueprint.


See, for best screenplay, I think Annie Hall deserves, cause the writing is second to none in that movie. I still think there is a debate between Best Picture for SW & Annie Hall, cause they are both considered classics today. As for Best Director, I still think Lucas deserved the award over Woodie Allen, because SW was revolutionary at the time, and the fact that it made it on screen and was such a great movie, Lucas had to credit for that.


Absolutely, but try and get in the mindset of the film community at the time. Lucas was an upstart Director, operating on the peripheral of the Hollywood system, practicing the very antithesis of "serious Hollywood filmmaking."

Let me say this as simply as possible so I'm clear - Lucas haters aren't new. He's always been held with a certain level of contempt by the very people that vote for the Academy Awards.

Pre-child molester Woody Allen was seen as a smart writer and director, perfect for the self-indulgent "Me" generation simmering in Hollywood, and Marshall Brickman was pretty hot at the time and would go on to write several more Oscar nominated films.

Star Wars not winning Best Picture or Best Director or Best Screenplay makes perfect sense to me given the attitudes and social mores of the time. Think of another escapist fantasy film not starting with Lord or ending in Of The Rings that won Best Picture. It's just the way it goes. Films of no substance, despite popularity, don't fare well with Academy voters.
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Originally posted by: TheCassidy


Star Wars not winning Best Picture or Best Director or Best Screenplay makes perfect sense to me given the attitudes and social mores of the time. Think of another escapist fantasy film not starting with Lord or ending in Of The Rings that won Best Picture. It's just the way it goes. Films of no substance, despite popularity, don't fare well with Academy voters.


I agree that the academy has that 'snobby' attitude towards many films especially fantasy films, but the fact that SW was nominated for 10 Academy Awards that year is still what astounds me. Before 1977, I have looked back and I can't find any 'fantasy' film that was even nominated, and correct me if I am wrong, was 2001 even nominated in 1968 for Best Picture?

The fact that Lucas got nominated for Best Screenplay, Guiness got nominated for Best Supporting Actor, and SW the movie got nominated for Best Picture is still a feat even though it didn't win cause before LOTR, NO film like that ever won. But I think SW changed the way even the Oscars nominated movies after that. Think of Raiders of the Lost Ark in 1981 getting 8 nominations, 1 for Best Picture. Think about it, a 2 hour action/serial adventure is nominated for a fucking academy award.

If you look at the winners of the Academy Awards throughout the SW years, SW never had a chance:

1976: Rocky
1977: Annie Hall
1978: Deer Hunter
1979: Kramer vs Kramer
1980: Ordinary People
1981: Chariots of Fire
1982: Gandhi
1983: Terms of Endearment
1984: Amadeus
1985: Out of Africa

Anybody notice a trend here? SW never had a chance, and I believe the only reason Return of the King won in 2003 was because it was more a salute to the 3 year journey that LOTR was able to produce and not because the movie was some classic. I believe if LOTR were just one movie instead of 3, it wouldn't have won an Academy Award. I do still think Lucas deserved Best Director, cause I think the academy ties that TOO much with Best Picture, and doesnt' take account the merits of how a director could make a movie different. 95% of the time Best Movie and Best Director are the same.