Lord of the Rings Trilogy - Extended Edition coming to Blu-Ray — Page 3

So, no one here has either set? Someone who knows the pain of bad color jobs?

DJ says he's seen it and he said it looked great. But then he says he likes the SW 2004SE colours... ;-)

Yeah, I wasn't entirely serious :-)

Yeah, I guess it'll best to judge for myself when I actually see it. And if I don't like it, I'm just gonna colour correct it, because from what I saw of it, it looks incredible in terms of detail and overall clarity ;-)

I'm sure the clarity of the image will overrule the slight color change in my book, especially if this is the way Jackson wants it.  He is the man, after all.

NECROPOST!

I got this set and have been going through the movies bit by bit. FotR does have some tinting, but its not all through the movie, and not so much that anyone would notice unless they we're looking for it. The most surprising part to me is that TTT also has tinting all over it. If you look for it, you'll see it, but the the tints on FotR are just as "bad" as the rest.

The quality is incredible, and the movies are still just as powerful as they were when I first watched them.

 I really wish I had space to rip and test fotr, because it still seems to me that the tint is there all throughout the film.  If it were deliberate or intermittent, I wouldn't expect it to affect the title cards or the fading to "white" sequence, yet it does.  I'll have to give it and TT another look.   Nonetheless I definitely agree that the overall quality is quite good.

I just bought the theatrical BDs (they were so dirt cheap that I just couldn't not - I paid like 10 bucks for the whole trilogy) and I skimmed FOTR and what's interesting is, that the DNR seems to have been applied selectively - there are many scenes, which look beautifully detailed, with a natural layer of grain and then suddenly cut to the next scene (for example when Gandalf first comes to Hobbition and there's a cut from the shot of him standing outside Bag End to the shot of him entering the door, shot from inside the Bag End interior)  and suddenly it's a grainless muddy mess and it stays that was throughout the whole interior scene - in fact, all the Bag End interior scenes seem to be affected by the DNR, whereas the exteriors look great. I really wonder why they did this, because judging from the HDTV captures, those scenes weren't any grainier or dirtier than the others.

Apparently Peter Jackson said/joked at Comic Con that he's considering adding a few scenes to the LotR trilogy for the eventual Complete Middle Earth Set. Extended Extended Edition?

Well, that would be great, as long as it was a proper master with the original colors and a seamless branching option for all three versions (which shouldn't be that hard in the case of LOTR).

Seeing how green-tinted the Hobbit films were,even in the cinemas, I'm not holding my breath though.

pittrek said:

doubleofive said:

Apparently Peter Jackson said/joked at Comic Con that he's considering adding a few scenes to the LotR trilogy for the eventual Complete Middle Earth Set. Extended Extended Edition?

 He said a similar thing a few years ago, when the first Hobbit was announced. But the new scenes shouldn't be added to the films, but shown as bonus features

 He said it on the ROTK commentary 10 years ago. If I recall, he teased finishing/restoring the Aragorn vs Sauron smack down for a future anniversary release.

emanswfan said:

I really would love to see as many other deleted scenes in finished condition, be it included in new longer cuts, or just bonus features.  Wasn't FOTR originally 4-5 hours long?

 Isn't every movie super-long at rough cut?

The Andy Warhol Empire Strikes Back.

You know, I've often watched the already-extended versions of these and thought "You know these are good, but I wish they were longer" :p. I'm holding out for the inevitable mega-Middle Earth boxed set, but the EE of BOTFA probably won't be out until NEXT December, and then the boxed set after that. Fuck, I hate waiting. The new trilogy is bloated, self-indulgent, too long, bombastic, and flawed, but Jackson's adventures remind me why I love movies in the first place, and I'll miss Middle Earth :(.

Harmy said:

Well, that would be great, as long as it was a proper master with the original colors and a seamless branching option for all three versions (which shouldn't be that hard in the case of LOTR).

Seeing how green-tinted the Hobbit films were,even in the cinemas, I'm not holding my breath though.

 At least they weren't tinted teal. There's a special teal room in hell for James Cameron. Hopefully they'd have branching, UV, and consolidate the SE material from the DVDs in SD onto single BR discs to save space like the BLADE RUNNER rerelease did. 

In: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Harmys-STAR-WARS-Respecialized-Edition-97-AVCHD-and-MKV-now-out/post/724999/#TopicPost724999

Nick66 said:

HDTV 2004 SE's?

Hmmmmm.  I'm assuming they're just upscales?

I got all excited once when I found an HDTV FOTR w/o the green tint, until I realised it was just a crappy upscale of the DVD.

Harmy said:

No, they are definitely not upscales - the BDs come from the same master as the 2004 DVDs - the 2004 DVD master was done in 1080p and some HDTV stations did broadcast it in 1080i, so those are native HD (high quality HDTV captures are now available on myspleen).

And there were native HD broadcasts of LOTR as well but only TTT was shown in the EE version - so the EEs found online were usually 1080p for the theatrical scenes and DVD upscales for the extended scenes.

Nick66 said:

Interesting...yeah, now that I think about it of course you're right, re: the BD's coming from the same master as the 04 DVD's.  Just didn't know they actually showed them on HDTV (not that I'm interested in them anyway...'04 is only slightly less offensive than '11).  

I knew that the Theatrical LOTR had aired in genuine HD, and I actually did find the EE of all three films from an HDTV broadcast, but as you pointed out the EE scenes were upscales. I wonder who did this?

Thanks!

Danfun128 said:

I know this is off topic but i'm confused. Are you saying that the hdtv transfer of the LOTR trilogy is better than the blu rays?

Harmy said:

Well, it definitely has far better colors than the EE BD and it has far less DVNR than the theatrical BD. This goes mainly for FOTR though - the other two movies are I believe the same transfers for HDTV, OT BD and EE BD (although the OT BDs of TTT and ROTK also suffer from DVNR and EE of TTT has a green tint but to a lesser extent than FOTR).

On the other hand, all the HDTV captures of LOTR I've seen suffered from pretty bad compression artifacts - there simply isn't a really good HD version of LOTR out there.

Feallan said:

What about kk650's versions? I've yet to watch it, but supposedly it looks very good.

I'd download it now, but goddamn tehparadox is down for 2 days already. :(

Harmy said:

I downloaded it and while it is an improvement over the official BD, it still looks nothing like the original colors seen on DVD, HDTV and OT BD.