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The Jaws 30th DVD has slightly more image info to the sides than it's recent Blu Ray counterpart.
what would be nice would be to see a collection of James Cameron films utilizing their altered Home Video AR as they were shot with super35 and have a lot of picture info when opened up
The Abyss US LD (1.90:1)
Terminator 2 (1.33:1)
True Lies (1.33:1)
Avatar (would love to see the 2.40:1 Ratio that I saw at the cinema)
Not sure about Titanic though as that was both ratios for the 3D Blu-ray
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The Jaws 30th DVD has slightly more image info to the sides than it's recent Blu Ray counterpart.
http://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10_7PPKaPMITk7pchLEU3GHTadeVdiINZXPmtYuocyA0/edit?usp=sharing
Started a Google doc with some friends of the various aspect ratios / dimensions of films and what the director's preferred AR/dimension is.
If anyone has any suggestions/proof of director's preference, let me know.
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That's really cool. I'm wondering what the point of all the open matte films at the bottom of the list is? There were tons and tons of films (way more than this list) released open matte on DVD home-video, but they were clearly composed for widescreen.
Also, the filmed in (*) doesn't seem to make much sense. For some films (like On the Waterfront) it marks the aspect ratio the film was composed for, but on others (like BTTF and the films at the bottom) is marks the tallest aspect ratio available from the filming format regardless if the film was ever meant to be seen that way.
For the whole Kubrick thing (The Shining, Full Metal Jacket, Eyes Wide Shut) I believe the consensus is that he composed for widescreen, but he approved open Matte transfers for CRT home video because he didn't like black bars (he was a strange guy).
It's a very nice list. I had no idea that Star Trek 6 used the Univisium aspect for the DVD.
Star Trek: The Motion Picture DE - The Anti-DNR Fanedit
Duel (1971) - The Hybrid Cut
The Phantom of the Opera - 1925 Version Reconstruction - Rare Scores Collection - Roy Budd Score
Yeah, I was going back and forth on the open matte stuff. The point of the list theoretically is to chart the different releases and what the director prefers. The asterisks are a work in progress as well.
Yeah, Star Trek 6 is weird:
This is a comparison of one of my friend's 70mm film cells with the same frame on the DVD and the Blu-ray.
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Star Trek VI was shot in Super-35. I'm not sure if it was 3-perf, or 4-perf (a la James Cameron). Does anybody have a 4:3 copy handy to check how much vertical space is added?
I know that prior to the Blu-ray transfer, there was a 2:1 theatrical cut transfer that ran on HDTV.
At least it was opened up, unlike Vittorio Storaro going senile and cropping his own 2.35:1 compositions to fit his later preferred Univisium ratio. Thank Heaven Apocalypse Now finally got a 2.35 release (though he still was able to force Criterion to use 1.9:1 for The Last Emperor).
A lot of Super 35 productions had a different AR when they had a blow up made, See Top Gun also
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Star Trek VI was shot in Super-35. I'm not sure if it was 3-perf, or 4-perf (a la James Cameron). Does anybody have a 4:3 copy handy to check how much vertical space is added?
I know that prior to the Blu-ray transfer, there was a 2:1 theatrical cut transfer that ran on HDTV.
At least it was opened up, unlike Vittorio Storaro going senile and cropping his own 2.35:1 compositions to fit his later preferred Univisium ratio. Thank Heaven Apocalypse Now finally got a 2.35 release (though he still was able to force Criterion to use 1.9:1 for The Last Emperor).
I don't have a 4:3 copy but I do have ST VI on widescreen VHS and the aspect ratio on that is 2:1, the first DVD release had 2.35:1 and the SE DVD was altered by Meyer to 1.85:1.
Film4 have recently shown the theatrical cut in 2.35:1 IIRC. Next time they show it, I'll confirm for certain.
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A lot of Super 35 productions had a different AR when they had a blow up made, See Top Gun also
I had an idea to compile three versions of Top Gun onto a BD-25 (in Standard Definition)
1.33:1, 2.00:1 ( from the original R1 DVD) and the 2.35:1 version (from the remastered DVD)
Maybe that's an idea to preserve the multi aspect ratio versions.
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I REALLY wish they'd release the IMAX version of Skyfall on bluray...
That's how I experienced it in at the movie theater, and that's how I'd like to experience it at home.
I was under the impression it was open matte on Netflix.
My mistake, it was 1.85:1 on Sky in the UK
I wonder if it was opened to that or cropped? Seems to be some debate on that.dvdmike said:
I was under the impression it was open matte on Netflix.
My mistake, it was 1.85:1 on Sky in the UK
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doubleofive said:
dvdmike said:
I was under the impression it was open matte on Netflix.
My mistake, it was 1.85:1 on Sky in the UKI wonder if it was opened to that or cropped? Seems to be some debate on that.
They are not showing it right now, but some people here:
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1845087
Saying it is opened
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doubleofive said:
dvdmike said:
I was under the impression it was open matte on Netflix.
My mistake, it was 1.85:1 on Sky in the UKI wonder if it was opened to that or cropped? Seems to be some debate on that.
They are not showing it right now, but some people here:
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1845087
Saying it is opened
Barring an official release from the studio in the future, the SkyHD version probably the closest we'll ever get to the 1:90:1 ratio of the IMAX version.
I wonder if anyone preserved that....
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doubleofive said:
I wonder if anyone preserved that....
Been searching for the Sky version since I first read about it... Have yet to have any luck with that. :'(
Problem is that people stopped recording HDTV versions as soon as a Blu-Ray existed
It seems to be the same thing with the variable aspect MI Ghost Protocol. Lost to time....
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In my looking for Skyfall, I found this
Where the heck did that 1.85:1 come from? I'm gathering it was variable in IMAX 3D?dvdmike said:
In my looking for Skyfall, I found this
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/103899
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No idea, I cannot find mention of an imax version yet the whole film exists open matte, not in great quality mind you
So there's an open matte version of DoFP floating around out there?
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Yep, it fell off the Internet and my hdd caught it.
Will cap some more later on and see if all the shots are like it
Army Of Darkness was originally presented in 1.66:1 AR but the DVD and BD versions cropped it to 1.85:1.
It was indeed 1.66:1, and like the early Bond movies it should be like that on disc :(
X-Men: