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The recruit on DVD was 1.85:1 the BD and Cinema release were 2.35:1
List of Blu-ray with altered aspect ratios (last update: 2014/03/11)
OAR | BD AR | Title |
2.39:1 | 1.78:1 | 50 Dead Men Walking |
1.33:1 | 1.78:1 | Angel in the Family |
2.39:1 | 1.78:1 | Baaria |
Variable A/R | Biutiful | |
2.39:1 | 1.78:1 cr | Blade (CA) |
2.39:1 | 1.78:1 | Bloodrayne (DE) |
Variable A/R | Brainstorm | |
2.39:1 | 1.85:1 | Brooklyn's Finest (CA) |
Variable A/R | Brother Bear | |
2.39:1 | 1.78:1 | Camille |
2.39:1 | 1.78:1 | Cellular (CA) |
2.39:1 | 1.78:1 DA | Chronicles of Narnia, The: Voyage of the Dawn Treader |
1.66:1 | 1.78:1 | Cruel Game |
2.39:1 | 1.78:1 | Cursed (Echo Bridge) |
Variable A/R | Dark Knight, The | |
2.39:1 | 1.78:1 | Darkness (Echo Bridge) |
2.39:1 | 1.78:1 cr | Dr. Giggles |
2.39:1 | 1.78:1 | Dracula 2000 |
1.66:1 | 1.33:1 om | Elena and Her Men (FR) |
Variable A/R | Enchanted | |
2.39:1 | 1.78:1 om | Equilibrium (CA) |
2.39:1 | 1.78:1 cr | Equilibrium (US, UK) |
1.66:1 | 1.78:1 | Excalibur |
1.85:1 | 1.78:1 cr | Faculty, The (CA) |
1.75:1 | 1.66:1 | Fox and the Hound, The |
1.66:1 | 1.33:1 om | French Cancan (UK) (FR) |
Variable A/R | Galaxy Quest (3 ARs in theaters, 2 ARs in BD) | |
Variable A/R | Grand Budapest Hotel | |
1.37:1 | 1.78:1 | Gulliver's Travels (1939) |
2.39:1 | 1.78:1 om | Halloween H20: 20 Years Later (US, CA) |
Variable A/R | Hunger Games: Catching Fire | |
2.39:1 | 1.78:1 | Icy Killers |
2.39:1 | 1.78:1 | Ink |
1.33:1 | 1.78:1 | Invisible Man, The: The Complete Series (1975-76) |
1.66:1 | 1.37:1 om | Ladykillers, The (1955) |
2.39:1 | 2.02:1 cr | Last Emperor, The |
Variable A/R | Life of Pi | |
1.85.1 | 1.33:1 om | Little Shop of Horrors, The (1960) |
2.39:1 | 1.78:1 | Lookout, The (Echo Bridge) |
1.33:1 | 1.78:1 | Lucky Luke: les Dalton en Cavale (CA) |
Variable A/R | Mad Max 2 (a.k.a. The Road Warrior) | |
1.33:1 | 1.78:1 | Man Who Saved Christmas, The |
Variable A/R | Mission Impossible : Ghost Protocol (theater) | |
2.39:1 | 1.78:1 | Money for Nothing |
1.85:1 | 1.67:1 | Monty Python and the Holy Grail |
Variable A/R | More American Graffiti | |
2.20:1 | 2.38:1 | My Fair Lady |
1.85:1 | 1.33:1 cr | Night of the Living Dead (1968) (Optimum UK) |
1.85:1 | 1.67:1 | Nightmare Before Christmas, The |
2.39:1 | 1.78:1 DA | Once Upon a Time in Mexico |
1.66:1 | 1.33:1 om | One + One / Sympathy for the Devil (UK) (FR) |
2.39:1 | 1.78:1 | Outcasts: Season One |
2.39:1 | 1.78:1 | Outlander (CA) |
Variable A/R | Oz The Great and Powerful | |
1.85:1 | 1.33:1 om | Plan 9 From Outer Space |
2.39:1 | 1.78:1 DA | Planet Terror (Unrated) |
1.66:1 | 1.78:1 | Pride & Prejudice (1995) |
Variable A/R | Prometheus (IMAX Edition) | |
1.33:1 | 1.78:1 | Roadracers |
2.39:1 | 1.78:1 | Running Scared (CA) |
2.39:1 | 1.78:1 | Sammy's Adventures: The Secret Passage |
Variable A/R | Scott Pilgrim vs The World | |
2.39:1 | 1.78:1 | Se7en (CA) |
1.37:1 | 1.33:1 | Seven Samurai |
2.39:1 | 1.78:1 | Shadows and Lies |
2.39:1 | 2.28:1 | Shaun of the Dead |
Variable A/R | Star Trek - Into Darkness (theater) | |
2.39:1 | 1.78:1 | Supercop (Echo Bridge) |
2.39:1 | 1.78:1 | Sympathy for Delicious (US, CA) |
1.33:1 | 1.78:1 om | That '70s Show: Season 1 |
Variable A/R | The Amazing Spider-Man (IMAX Edition) | |
1.37:1 | 1.78:1 | Tintin: The Calculus Affair (CA) |
Variable A/R | Transformers - Revenge of the Fallen (IMAX Edition) | |
Variable A/R | Tron: Legacy | |
2.39:1 | 1.78:1 | Venom |
2.39:1 | 1.78:1 | Versus |
1.66:1 | 1.58:1 om | Virgin Witch |
1.66:1 | 1.78:1 | White Christmas |
2.39:1 | 1.78:1 | Witches of Oz, The |
1.37:1 | 1.78:1 | World at War, The |
2.39:1 | 1.78:1 DA | World’s Fastest Indian, The |
2.39:1 | 1.78:1 | Yards, The |
Notes:
om = open matte
cr = cropped
DA = Director Approved
Latest additions in bold. DVD will be added only as "exception that proves the rule". NO 1.85:1 to 1.78:1 will be listed. All titles are US releases unless noted otherwise; may be also worldwide valid.
List of media with different versions from BD could be found here.
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Well done!
If you have That 70's Show Season 1, you should include the Blu-rays of Friends and Cheers which do the same.
Enchanted has a variable AR? I never noticed...
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You can include just about every '50s Academy picture (at least U.S. releases), cause they were all matted to 1.85:1 in theaters. Then there's Invasion of the Body Snatchers, which was filmed in Academy, but was blown up to the SuperScope 2:1 ratio for theatrical release, and 16mm prints with more visual information on the top and bottom, but less on the sides exist. This Island Earth is another example of the process.
I've done a 1.85:1 version of Gigantis, the Fire Monster myself.
So, a new book came out and we learned so much, and it is called, “Anguilosaurus, Killer of the Living”.
The recruit on DVD was 1.85:1 the BD and Cinema release were 2.35:1
doubleofive said:
Well done!
Thanks!
If you have That 70's Show Season 1, you should include the Blu-rays of Friends and Cheers which do the same.
Please be more specific...
Enchanted has a variable AR? I never noticed...
Dunno, entries are taken mainly from other lists...
Space Hunter M said:
You can include just about every '50s Academy picture (at least U.S. releases), cause they were all matted to 1.85:1 in theaters.
About these releases: as the 1.37:1 was the OAR (original A/R), but the 1.85:1 was the IAR (intended A/R), unless the BD has the OAR they will be not listed here; you are welcome to add the latter titles!
dvdmike said:
The recruit on DVD was 1.85:1 the BD and Cinema release were 2.35:1
Thanks, I will add this, but... is it cropped or open matte?
mumbles3k (from this thread) said:
Including all movies that have been shown open matte is basically the HD equivalent of including movies that have been panned and scanned. It's standard operating procedure to make a 1.78 master of 2.39 movies that were shot in Super 35 or HD. It would be a really long and kind of pointless list, because most times, they're only shown on TV, and not even the filmmakers themselves have watched them.
I don't think so...we are in a preservation forum, and it will be interesting for us to know if there are open matte version of our preferred movie; even if 1.78:1 open matte is not the intended aspect ratio, sometimes "more is more"... (^^,)
Also, if there are some P&S BD versions they MUST be listed here!
Plus, it could be useful if someone wants to make a project using the open matte "as is", or a variable aspect ratio a la Dark Knight...
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U-571 has an open matte 1.78:1 and 2.35:1 both on blu-ray.
There was a big discussion in my Holy Grail thread, and the consensus seemed to be that even though the US theatrical AR for the film was 1.85:1, the UK theatrical AR was 1.66:1. So the Blu-ray release isn't really an alteration from theatrical AR, is was just shown in different AR's in different markets, and they picked a different one than they'd used for some earlier home video releases.
There are two different versions of the North American BluRay release of Brooklyn's Finest. The Canadian VVS Films version has the cropped 1.78:1 aspect ratio while the Anchor Bay release contains the full aspect ratio.
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_,,,^..^,,,_ said:
I don't think so...we are in a preservation forum, and it will be interesting for us to know if there are open matte version of our preferred movie; even if 1.78:1 open matte is not the intended aspect ratio, sometimes "more is more"... (^^,)Also, if there are some P&S BD versions they MUST be listed here!
I agree with mumbles3k here, Andrea. Unless you change your criteria, you will end up with an all-encompassing list that will not be of any use to anyone.
Why must P&S (in the original sense) BDs (if they exist) be listed? If your list is only for altered AR on BD, you should remove the open-matte Gladiator because it's from HDTV. If it's for any film that has ever had its AR altered, then you will have a list of almost every film ever made.
A list of open-matte versions that people like is a good idea, but I think that it should be a separate thread and that you should work out what you want to do with this one.
The originals were presented in 1.33, but the Blus are reformatted into 1.78. Same with Seinfeld. (Cheers isn't available on Blu yet, but HDTV reruns are presented at 1.78)_,,,^..^,,,_ said:
If you have That 70's Show Season 1, you should include the Blu-rays of Friends and Cheers which do the same.
Please be more specific...
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What about Star Trek VI. The blu ray is the theatrical scope and there has always been debate over what the intended ratio was since they shot it on super35.
I have never been able to find a satisfactory answer for why Meyer used super35 instead of the same format as wrath of khan.
As for tv broadcasts of films and tv shows being not oar but zoomed in or fake widescreen that is another whole topic and something that disgusts me as much as dvnr if not more.
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There is an open matte version of Collateral kicking around in HDTV.
Titanic 2D and 3D blu-ray also have different aspect ratios:
Avatar also has different aspect ratios for the theatrical and home video releases.
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Following your suggestions, I updated and modified the list in this thread to include only BD (and few DVD); a new thread is started here to include media with different versions from BD (for preservation purpose).
So from now on, this list will include ONLY Blu-rays with altered aspect ratios (DVDs will be added only as notable exceptions); any other aspect ratio issue related to different media, along with color grading, extended and theatrical cuts, missing shots/scenes discussions should be posted in the thread mentioned above.Thanks to everyone!
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It should be noted that the fullscreen DVD of "A Bug's Life" is mostly Pan and Scan. They only recomposited certain scenes where cropping would cut off key details, so it's not really much different from most full screen films. (I also think they did this recompositing with a couple of other Pixar films.)
Star Trek: The Motion Picture DE - The Anti-DNR Fanedit
Duel (1971) - The Hybrid Cut
The Phantom of the Opera - 1925 Version Reconstruction - Rare Scores Collection - Roy Budd Score
Added Star Trek III - thanks to doubleofive
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What's altered about Star Trek III's AR?
From the other thread:
doubleofive said:
I thought of another one, Star Trek III. The intro flashback to the end of II and the opening credits are in 2:1, the rest is 2.35:1.
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It belongs in the other thread then. What's on the BD is not an alteration.
_,,,^..^,,,_ is using this list for movies that have variable ratios in the movie and ratios different on Blu-ray release.
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In that case, the heading needs to be changed. It's confusing and led me to the conclusion that the AR of Star Trek III had been altered on BD.
And I don't see the point in such a list because the two things being listed have nothing in common beyond the fact that they involve aspect ratio.
Right; as I'd like to continue with this list, and AFAIK Star Trek III had the same variable AR also in theaters, I should delete it. So it is now deleted.
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Chewtobacca said:
It belongs in the other thread then. What's on the BD is not an alteration.
_,,,^..^,,,_ said:
Right; as I'd like to continue with this list, and AFAIK Star Trek III had the same variable AR also in theaters, I should delete it. So it is now deleted.
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Oso is correct... the opening credits for Star Trek III have now been "windowboxed" on the Blu-ray presentation. The DVD never did that. A lot of the James Bond films on BD suffer the same credits treatment unfortunately (OHMSS for example).
I just want to note a film that is not altered for BD, but has the most mind blowing use of variable aspect ratios within a movie ever. That film is More American Graffiti. Has anyone ever seen this? It basically follows three different stories throughout the film. Each character's story is presented in a different aspect ratio. I realize it's not part of this list as it's represented correctly on BD, same as the theatrical presentation. I'm just pointing out that I've never seen another film that took this concept quite so far. Not a great sequel by any means, but the John Milner character arc is the best and it's presented in pristine scope.