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DVD-Lab Pro 2 is the program I use for DVD authoring, so I just checked it out and you are able to import subtitles in a limited number of formats. Those formats are: .sub, .srt, .ssa, .son & .sst. I suppose it depends how you've ripped the subtitles from the DVD. What format do you have the official subs in?

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I've managed to get the forced film with dgindex to work, but when I encode the video with CCE SP2, I end up with ghosting or stuttering frames... I'm not quite sure if I've got the settings right in CCE, but I set the framerate to 23.97 ( no rate conversion), aspect ratio 16:9, pulldown of 2:3 (I also tried 3:2). I did not set progressive or zigzag under Picture Quality. Thanks for the help so far, but does someone know what I might be doing wrong inside of CCE SP2?
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
I've been using DVDLab Pro for some time, but have always had to re-create my subtitles from scratch (or go through a lengthy OCR process with SubRip and Subtitle Workshop). Is there a way it can now import the subtitle stream from the ripped subtitle files, muxing the official stream?


I know the pain of matching characters in SubRip

DVDDecrypter can save a separate subtitle stream file, is there no way of importing that into DVDLab Pro?

Star Wars 1977-1983

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I ripped the subtitles using Subrip but ended up with the entire English subtitle track. I went back and deleted everything except the Greedo lines. I think I had the fps set wrong because I had to go back and manually adjust the timing by 4 seconds (been making a lot of coasters lately). Now I have to do Jedi. Can't wait....uggg!!
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Originally posted by: torque91
I ripped the subtitles using Subrip but ended up with the entire English subtitle track. I went back and deleted everything except the Greedo lines. I think I had the fps set wrong because I had to go back and manually adjust the timing by 4 seconds (been making a lot of coasters lately). Now I have to do Jedi. Can't wait....uggg!!


torque91, can you give me some pointers for using DGIndex? I successfully created the .dv2 files, .ac3 etc, and tried to write a text file to implement them but no luck.

I'm using DVD Rebuilder Pro. Can I write a script directly into the AVS section of Rebuilder Pro? I feel like I'm *so* close to getting this to work, any help is very much appreciated!

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You actually write the script in notepad and save it as an .avs file. Mine looked something like this:

MPEG2Source("C:\Star_Wars\Video_TS\starwars.d2v")
Crop(0,60,0,-60)
Lanczos4Resize(720, 480)

I only cropped and resized. Of course you replace the path in the first line with the path of the .d2v file you created (leave the quotation marks in the script). You then open TMPGEnc Plus (you can download a 14 day trial) and select the .avs file as the video source. TMPGEnc Plus will generate the newly stretched .M2V file for you to use in DVD-lab Pro (a 30 free trial on this one). DVD-lab Pro will allow you to combine the new .M2V file you just created with the .ac3 audio file as well as the subtitles(with a little work).

I have been searching for a way to make non-anamorphic DVD's usable on my front CRT projector for quite a while. Many thanks to wmgan for posting this method!!!! I am now working on my Disney's Ichabod Crane DVD
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Originally posted by: torque91
You actually write the script in notepad and save it as an .avs file. Mine looked something like this:

MPEG2Source("C:\Star_Wars\Video_TS\starwars.d2v")
Crop(0,60,0,-60)
Lanczos4Resize(720, 480)

I only cropped and resized. Of course you replace the path in the first line with the path of the .d2v file you created (leave the quotation marks in the script). You then open TMPGEnc Plus (you can download a 14 day trial) and select the .avs file as the video source. TMPGEnc Plus will generate the newly stretched .M2V file for you to use in DVD-lab Pro (a 30 free trial on this one). DVD-lab Pro will allow you to combine the new .M2V file you just created with the .ac3 audio file as well as the subtitles(with a little work).

I have been searching for a way to make non-anamorphic DVD's usable on my front CRT projector for quite a while. Many thanks to wmgan for posting this method!!!! I am now working on my Disney's Ichabod Crane DVD



Thanks for your reply. Actually, I'm all set with converting to anamorphic, it turned out really good. I don't think I need any more cropping and resizing via Lanczos4Resize, correct? Or is this what is helping me force 24fps video? Sorry if I'm sounding dense here, I just need the easiest way to fix the nasty burned in jaggies.

I'm open to using either DGIndex or GreedyHMA if someone can show me what (and how) to insert the script. I have both of the previously mentioned applications downloaded and ready. Just can't fix the jaggies...arrgh!
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You might be having the same problem I was having at first. Forced film mode in DGIndex fixed my problem.
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Originally posted by: torque91
You might be having the same problem I was having at first. Forced film mode in DGIndex fixed my problem.


Exactly! But my problem is that unable to peform all the steps to do the forced-film mode using DGInex. I downloaded DGIndex. Ran my (already anamorphic) VOB through it. Got several script files including a .dv2, .ac3 file, etc.

Can you walk me through what to do next? I'm assuming I have to run an AVS script inside DVDrb Pro and run the whole thing through DVDrb Pro again. I tried reading the help/text file for DGIndex, but I got lost after creating my .dv2 and .ac3 file indexes.

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Are you trying to reprocess a video to remove the anomalies?
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Originally posted by: torque91
Are you trying to reprocess a video to remove the anomalies?



Correct. I've very satisfied with my letterbox-to-anamorphic conversion, I just want to use some type of reprocessing to remove the interlacing errors.

I have both GreedHMA and DGIndex downloaded and ready to go. I'm just not familiar with the step by step process to implement them, including the scripts (?) that would need to be plugged in to DVD Rebuilder Pro. Do I need to use VirtualDub if I have DVD Rebuilder Pro?

I'm just unclear on the exact steps to take from here. I know I'm asking alot, but I really feel I have all the tools necessary, and am so close to getting an acceptable end results. I just need some more direction.
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SamS, the best way to remove any interlacing errors would probably be to reencode the video with the "Forced Film" setting in DGIndex (and correspondingly, the "3:2 pulldown" option in TMPGEnc). I know that means redoing all you've done, but I don't think there's a good way around that.
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Originally posted by: wmgan
SamS, the best way to remove any interlacing errors would probably be to reencode the video with the "Forced Film" setting in DGIndex (and correspondingly, the "3:2 pulldown" option in TMPGEnc). I know that means redoing all you've done, but I don't think there's a good way around that.



Hi wmgan. Yes, I agree completely with your suggestion... My problem is as stated before, I do not know the steps to take to implement this approach with DGIndex. Like mentioned above, I have DGIndex installed. I even ran the "anamorphically corrected" VOB through it. DGIndex made 4-5 small files, including a .dv2 and .ac3 file. Now, where do I go from here?
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You shouldn't run the "anamorphically corrected version" through it. If you plan to redo it, you should discard those files (or do everything in a new folder so you don't get confused between old and new files with similar names).

Just redo the whole process from scratch, except that when you run the original VOBs through DGIndex, you should use the "Forced Film" setting in the "Video -> Field Operation" menu.
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wmgan, ya I totally follow. BUT, (a big but), this is where I don't know how to go any further. Can you explain the logistics of this? I know where the forced film setting is, I know how to run DVD ReBuilder Pro. I know how to run the entire movie through DGIndex. When I do all of this, I'm left with 4 file index(s?), i.e. Starwars.dv2, starwars.ac3, etc.

So what do I do now? I have these little "direction" files that tell DVD Rebuilder (or VirtualDub?) what to do? So now I need to write a script in the AVS file in DVD ReBuilder Pro so AVSynth can access the commands and indicators that DGIndex decided upon? If so, can someone write this for me?

I have all the pieces of the puzzle, and all the tools, I'm just hoping someone can help me get from point 'A' to point 'E' to finish this project. If this makes sense to you, please play me for stoopid/confused and lay it out in 5 (?) steps or whatever if possible.
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I've never used DVD Rebuilder so I can't really guide you there. Hopefully someone else will be able to help you out...
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Originally posted by: wmgan
I've never used DVD Rebuilder so I can't really guide you there. Hopefully someone else will be able to help you out...


Is there another software solution that you can recommend to me to try with free, downloadable components?

Again, I've accomplished the anamorphic squeeze, I just need a good way to manipulate that video and force film mode.
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The method I'd use is the method I posted in the very first message in this thread.
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Originally posted by: wmgan
The method I'd use is the method I posted in the very first message in this thread.


Which step in your first post deals with the forced film mode?

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My step by step how to.

Tools needed: DVD Decrypter, DGIndex, AviSynth 2.5, VirtualDubMod, TMPGEnc Plus 2.5

Optional/Recommended Tools: SubRip, DVD-lab PRO

1. Use DVD Decrypter to demux the video and audio streams from your DVD. Make sure to use IFO mode, set file splitting to 'none' and select the stream processing tab. This will allow you to pick the video and audio streams that you want to demux from your DVD title. Make sure your hard drive is partitioned in the NTFS format for this because your .M2V video file could exceed the 4GB FAT32 limit.

2. Open your demuxed .M2V file with DGIndex and under the 'Video' menu set the 'Field Operation' to 'Forced Film'. Then save your project with your title of choice, STARWARS.D2V for example, and this will give you a 23.976p .D2V output file for use in step 3.

3. Create an .AVS file with Notepad like the following example.

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\DGIndex\DGDecode.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\temp\STARWARS.D2V")
LanczosResize(720,480,0,60,720,360)


'C:\Program Files\DGIndex\DGDecode.dll' is used to decode the MPEG2 DVD source, make sure your path is correct for your PC. 'C:\temp\STARWARS.D2V' is the path to the file you created with DGIndex in step 2. Save this text file that you've created in Notepad as STARWARS.AVS.

4. Using the 'Open Video File..' command in VirtualDubMod load the STARWARS.AVS file that you created in step 3. Now you want to 'Start Frame Server...', read this excellent guide to using frameserver from VirtualDub or VirtualDubMod. My only suggestion not mentioned there is to save your file not as STARWARS.VDR but instead as STARWARS.VDR.avi so that your can then open that file in your MPEG2 encoder of choice, TMPGEnc Plus in my case. * THE FRAMESERVER MUST REMAIN OPEN AND RUNNING DURING YOUR ENCODE FOR THIS PROCESS TO WORK! *

5. Open TMPGEnc Plus and select a 'NTSC (16:9)' from the Project Wizard. You can then encode your file in TMPGEnc Plus for 16:9 enhancement. VirtualDubMod will frameserve the cropped and resized file directly to TMPGEnc in the proper 720x480 pixel size and TMPGEnc will encode for 16:9 enhancement and reduction in size to DVD5.

6. Use SubRip to extract any subtitles from your DVD if necessary.

7. Use the DVD authoring program of your choice to join your anamorphic video and audio (demuxed in step 1) as well as the optional subtitle files created in step 6 if needed. I recommend DVD-lab PRO but you probably have your own preferred DVD authoring title.

Thats the Reader's Digest version but through some reading and a little trial and error you should be able to fill in the blanks as I have given you the recipe.

Good luck.
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88keys, you da man!

An hour ago, I started a similar process in DVDrb Pro. It seems to be working so far, it wasn't earlier. I think I was indexing some scripts wrong.

If this doesn't work, I'm going to use your method above. I now understand the process from start to finish (I think!), your tuturial was a big help.
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Thanks for writing that, 88keyz!
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Originally posted by: 88keyz
4. Using the 'Open Video File..' command in VirtualDubMod load the STARWARS.AVS file that you created in step 3. Now you want to 'Start Frame Server...', read this excellent guide to using frameserver from VirtualDub or VirtualDubMod. My only suggestion not mentioned there is to save your file not as STARWARS.VDR but instead as STARWARS.VDR.avi so that your can then open that file in your MPEG2 encoder of choice, TMPGEnc Plus in my case. * THE FRAMESERVER MUST REMAIN OPEN AND RUNNING DURING YOUR ENCODE FOR THIS PROCESS TO WORK! *


Actually, TMPGEnc accepts AviSynth script (.AVS) files, so you don't need to use another frameserver.
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Originally posted by: wmgan
Actually, TMPGEnc accepts AviSynth script (.AVS) files, so you don't need to use another frameserver.

Yeah, you could skip this step I just wanted TMPGEnc Plus to only have to deal with the re-encoding part of the process so I allowed VirtualDubMod to handle the resizing for the job. Also, my thoughts were that this would be a great experience for SamS to learn about frameserving as you can use it in many other instances as well. But yes, I do agree 100% that you could skip step 4 and load your .AVS file directly into TMPGEnc to reduce the complications of the process.

Originally posted by: wmgan
Thanks for writing that, 88keyz!


No problem. Sometimes simple step by step guides can be hard to locate on the vastness that is the WWW.
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Well, my overnight project encoding with DVDrb Pro and DGDecode/Index yielded some funky results. My audio was at least 20 minutes delayed from my video! And the worst part, the jaggies were still in the picture

88kyez, can you verify that your method posted above removes the shimmering and diagonal-line artifacts from the source? I've had no problems making my video anamorphic, I just want to get rid of those distracting jaggies from the end result.