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Why is it that this thread stands alone as a defense for GL among a sea of Lucas smash and bash, and my thread that actually better fits in the general mood of the General Star Wars Forum gets locked?  I think the sarcasm might have been a little too hard to detect.  I've got my beef with the guy too, but at the same time I appreciate him better than at least 75% of the folks who frequent this site.  My other thread was merely a commentary on what every thread seems to turn into in this forum.

At the same time, it makes me smile and chuckle to myself that I managed to get in trouble so quickly.  Tee hee hee.  I really do love this site.  So much fun.

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The only way to post on locked threads its to step through THE SCARY DOOR...

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Hmm, I never thought that most threads devolved into a Lucas bash.  Maybe that's because I mostly hang out in the preservation section, where people are too busy regaling the latest recovered pixel.  Now if you had said that most of the threads devolve into bashing kenkraly....

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I meant the General Star Wars Discussion forum.  Others aren't nearly so bad.  And I understand that it's originaltrilogy.com, but it just amazes me that there is no end to it all.  I swear, if the world ends tomorrow, someone on this site will use their last moments to criticize George Lucas, maybe going so far as to blame him for the cataclysmic event.

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darth_ender said:

I meant the General Star Wars Discussion forum.  Others aren't nearly so bad.  And I understand that it's originaltrilogy.com, but it just amazes me that there is no end to it all.  I swear, if the world ends tomorrow, someone on this site will use their last moments to criticize George Lucas, maybe going so far as to blame him for the cataclysmic event.

Hmm, I can think of two people.  That's about it.

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darth_ender said:

Why is it that this thread stands alone as a defense for GL among a sea of Lucas smash and bash, and my thread that actually better fits in the general mood of the General Star Wars Forum gets locked?  I think the sarcasm might have been a little too hard to detect.  I've got my beef with the guy too, but at the same time I appreciate him better than at least 75% of the folks who frequent this site.  My other thread was merely a commentary on what every thread seems to turn into in this forum.

 

Since you asked: I don't see that every thread devolves into Lucas bashing.  No doubt we have a few members who are dug in pretty deep, but the site isn't the bashfest you make it out to be. This very thread is testament to that fact. Its also a perfect example of how people sometimes need to be able to sort through the static, while also taking note of where it usually comes from.

Regarding your sarcasm: Not too subtle. Just not appreciated.

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Well, my apologies.  Didn't mean to cause a ruckus.  Just trying to make some good lighthearted fun.  I really do like it here and even take part in the Lucas-poking.  But look at several of the threads on the first page here: Fatal flaw in the prequels, People vs. George Lucas, Lucas' son is Jar Jar, Feeling down about Star Wars, Best Scene for Prequels exclusive to haters, not to mention other formerly popular threads devoted to worst dialogue, worst scene, why ROTJ sucks, etc.  These are obvious in their purpose and how they end up.  I clearly don't hate Lucas myself or I wouldn't have started this thread, nor do I hate this site or I wouldn't be on here so much, interacting with many of the worst bashers on a regular basis.  The other thread simply was meant as fun and an opportunity to point out the silliness of hating the guy who actually created the product they don't like being tampered with.  I'm not offended you locked it either; I just want to make sure its intent is understood.  I actually got a laugh out of my swift punishment.

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If George never changed the films, we wouldn't be here to enjoy each others company.

Thank you, Mr. Lucas.

Since they're like poetry, what with the rhyming and all, I find that I only need to watch three out of the six films.

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Perhaps you are mistaking bashing the SE and the prequels, with bashing Lucas. But I'll admit that when discussing things that we don't like, it is natural at some point to blame the perpetrator - and it's usually (but not always) Lucas.

The "People vs George Lucas" thread was about a documentary with that title.  In it you will find discussion of the documentary, not much Lucas bashing.

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Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

 when discussing things that we don't like, it is natural at some point to blame the perpetrator

That's particularly true regarding Star Wars. To me, Lucas has an unhealthy need to control every single aspect of the films, shows, later EU, SEs, re-edits, box sets, revised history, etc, etc.  Absolutely nothing is released that hasn't had his input.    You can't criticize post-1983 Star Wars and not criticize Lucas because they're one and the same.

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^I'm not really sure Luca$ interferes with the EU all that much. Most of the prequelization of the EU can be attributed to the PT fanboys who write the actual stories, methinks.

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darth_ender said:

  And I understand that it's originaltrilogy.com, but it just amazes me that there is no end to it all.

There's like, 3 guys who actually do what you're talking about. (And sure there's an end to it. Over in the alternate universe it already happened and it looks like this: 

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Regardless, it was a joke that I'm done with.  Sorry to make a fuss.  I just thought it was funny and meant no disrespect to the community.

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Is this the thread where we say nice stuff about George Bush, George Washington, George Lazenby, George Lopez, George Harrison, George Clooney, and Canada?

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You can always tell who reads off-topic and who doesn't :p

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George "the animal" Steele was an entertaining wrestler!  Nobody could eat a turnbuckle like he did!

George C. Scott was an amazing actor!  His performances were stellar!

George Brett (my alltime favorite baseball player) was a great hitter and is a member of the baseball HOF!

George Thorogood is great rock singer!  "Bad to the bone" will forever be a staple for great rock songs!

George Harrison is my favorite of the ex-Beatles.  Great Lyricist!

"There's no cluster of midiclorians that controls my destiny!" -Han Solo, from a future revision of ANH

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DuracellEnergizer said:

^I'm not really sure Luca$ interferes with the EU all that much. Most of the prequelization of the EU can be attributed to the PT fanboys who write the actual stories, methinks.

I know he had some loose story guidelines for the early EU, but you may be right about the Prequelized novels.   His followers are so dug in, so devoted to his new vision, that he may not even have to get involved anymore.  They're writing it for him and for themselves. 

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Anchorhead said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

^I'm not really sure Luca$ interferes with the EU all that much. Most of the prequelization of the EU can be attributed to the PT fanboys who write the actual stories, methinks.

I know he had some loose story guidelines for the early EU, but you may be right about the Prequelized novels.   His followers are so dug in, so devoted to his new vision, that he may not even have to get involved anymore.  They're writing it for him and for themselves. 

Funnily, I believe (though I'm not sure) that the EU story he was most involved with was 'Splinter of the Mind's Eye' back in '78 or '79.  SHoSW, in turn, used accounts from Alan Dean Foster, the writer, as still more evidence to show that Lucas didn't have Vader as father or Luke/Leia sibling-ness established at that time.

At other sites, EU fans dig in the trenches for ANY Lucas acknowledgment of their favorite EU and, as soon as Lucas reportedly mentions something, they all jump up and down, "Canon!  Canon!" 

I like the double entendre joke making use of other "George's" out there.

I'll say that I'm amazed that Lucas is always mellow and cool in every single clip I've ever seen of him.  And I think that that's a good trait, right?

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DavidBrennan said:

I like the double entendre joke making use of other "George's" out there.

 

Unfortunately the thread title has been updated.  :-(

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DavidBrennan said:


At other sites, EU fans dig in the trenches for ANY Lucas acknowledgment of their favorite EU and, as soon as Lucas reportedly mentions something, they all jump up and down, "Canon!  Canon!"


Yeah, it's sad. But it's also kind of funny, like clown cars in a pile-up.

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I'm generally pretty happy with George's involvement in his projects.

- I blame Jake Lloyd and Hayden Christensen.

- George may have decision power over a project, but he also has a deadline. If the people working for him can't do what he asks of them fast enough... is it really his fault?

- Star Wars does need to be updated to maintain its impact on new generations. 

 

My biggest disappointment with George is how much (with the exception of releasing the OOT) he caters to fans.

I personally am wating for versions of the OT where all computer monitors look modern, where Yoda is CG, where mattes are replaced with CGI, where space battles match the intensity of the prequel trilogy. I want to see a completely CG version of inside the JAWA Crawler. I want to see the Cantina replaced, and Greedo painted over with cgi.

So... I like that George wants to match Star Wars to his vision. I simply hope he can overstep the things in his way and do it. He has enough money and enough resources (and the technology is there.) to make the OT look as stunning as ROTS.

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If new generations require modern CGI FX in order to be able to simply enjoy what is now and forever a classic film from 1977, then they can go screw themselves. I don't mean to be difficult, but that's how strongly I feel about it.

I wonder if George has sat down to watch Flash Gordon or Buck Rogers lately? He needs a refresher course in what he was trying to make in the first place.

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Where were you in '77?