Let's Talk Indy For A Sec — Page 3

negative1 said:

yeah great speilberg..

 

make a cg movie with a boy, and a 'talking' dog,

that's realism for you...

 

oh, and have them go to outer space while you're at it..

 

pot meet kettle..

 

hypocrite..

 

i'm glad Lucas kept Spielberg in check for Indy 4,

i can't even imagine what else he would have done to it..

 

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LOL, you just like to go against the grain don't you? I think no matter which way the river flowed, you'd always swim against the current. That could be a compliment in some cases, you know, think outside the box, but in your case it isn't so much thinking outside the box as it is disagreeing with and flipping around everything everybody else says.  Just an observation.

"I'm glad Lucas kpt Spielberg in check for Indy 4, I can't imagine what else he would have done to it..." That is completely nonsensical. Even taking into account the context of your previous posts and your feelings of Spielberg's incompetence still doesn't explain why or how ypu think he would have screwed up Indy IV had Lucas not been there holdong his leash. I am pretty sure you are only saying it because everybody else says that it was a good thing Spielberg was there to keep Lucas under control.

I also like how you act like Tin Tin being CG is the end of the world, but the Clone Wars being CG is an amazing and very mature show for adults. If Clone Wars can be so great in all its wooden CG glory, why can't CG Tin Tin even be given a chance?

C3PX said:

LOL, you just like to go against the grain don't you? I think no matter which way the river flowed, you'd always swim against the current. [...] but in your case it isn't so much thinking outside the box as it is disagreeing with and flipping around everything everybody else says.

 Surprised? His nickname is "negative one" after all. Why bother disputing with someone whose only rule is negation?

Thank goodnes for the "ignore list" :)

C3PX said:

negative1 said:

yeah great speilberg..

 

make a cg movie with a boy, and a 'talking' dog,

that's realism for you...

 

oh, and have them go to outer space while you're at it..

 

pot meet kettle..

 

hypocrite..

 

i'm glad Lucas kept Spielberg in check for Indy 4,

i can't even imagine what else he would have done to it..

 

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LOL, you just like to go against the grain don't you? I think no matter which way the river flowed, you'd always swim against the current. That could be a compliment in some cases, you know, think outside the box, but in your case it isn't so much thinking outside the box as it is disagreeing with and flipping around everything everybody else says. Just an observation.

"I'm glad Lucas kpt Spielberg in check for Indy 4, I can't imagine what else he would have done to it..." That is completely nonsensical. Even taking into account the context of your previous posts and your feelings of Spielberg's incompetence still doesn't explain why or how ypu think he would have screwed up Indy IV had Lucas not been there holdong his leash. I am pretty sure you are only saying it because everybody else says that it was a good thing Spielberg was there to keep Lucas under control.

I also like how you act like Tin Tin being CG is the end of the world, but the Clone Wars being CG is an amazing and very mature show for adults. If Clone Wars can be so great in all its wooden CG glory, why can't CG Tin Tin even be given a chance?

All I know is that Steven Moffat is writing Tin Tin, so it's gonna rule.

Nanner Split said:

All I know is that Steven Moffat is writing Tin Tin, so it's gonna rule.

He's not doing it anymore since he's taken over as head of Doctor Who

Steven Moffat leaves Tintin

Somebody on Amazon called this movie "Crystal Numbskull"  It had me Rofl.

Other Reviews talk about If you are gonna get a nuke dropped on you get in the fridge, and ride it for three miles through the air, lol.

Aliens were in the movie, people were expecting Jar Jar to show up.  A mayan Temple transforms into a ufo and goes to where no man has gone before "the space between the spaces"lol.

adywan said:

Nanner Split said:

All I know is that Steven Moffat is writing Tin Tin, so it's gonna rule.

He's not doing it anymore since he's taken over as head of Doctor Who

Steven Moffat leaves Tintin

Well, given the choice between Moffat-written Tintin and Moffat-written Doctor Who, I'll take Doctor Who thanks. :P

The reboot of doctor who was a huge success, and is probably a better idea for him to work on that.  I can hardly blame Moffat.  I would keep as Far away from Steven Spielberg or George Lucas as possible they ruined 2 franchises.  Spielberg is not the go to guy for adapting books Look waht he did to jm Barries peter pan, he did far worse than disney could ever have done.  And while Jaws was a good film it did not stay close to the original novel at all.  Spielberg made up the ending as it is not in the book.

See i never cared for tintin so Spielberg can wreck that as he pleases.  I was a bit more angry at his and bays ruination of Transformers, Spielbergs own ruining of welles war of the worlds. 

I was not one bit Pleased when Spielberg got the rights to Ghost in the Shell.  Seeing as he will rape another classic.

skyjedi2005 said:

 And while Jaws was a good film it did not stay close to the original novel at all.  Spielberg made up the ending as it is not in the book.

for once,

i'm actually going to defend spielberg here.. while peter benchleys novel may be different to

the movie.... in this case i didn't care.. because i never read the book first...

and the movie 'jaws' is one of the reason we actually have summer 'blockbusters', i dont'

know if you were around when it came out, but it singlehandly saved the movie industry

with the idea of putting out a 'popcorn' movie ..

also, the influence of 'jaws' on other films is pretty substantial..

you might be the only critic of the movie i've heard...(and i'm not talking about any

of the crappy sequels for it)..

here's some info on it..

From a personal viewpoint, the film takes you into a world where the book can only dream of going. Benchley’s novel heavily diverts with an affair that does not drive the plot forward. He also ends the drama on a fairly bizarre sentence as if the final pages had been previously ripped out. The main focus of the attacks on the local community is lost until the final stages. Although the way the shark scenes have been written, especially the highly tensed closing stages, are indisputably enthralling, the film takes this, and combined with music, effects and rich storytelling, propels it to a point where Spielberg believes the audience are "screaming and tossing popcorn into the air - some running for the exit."

The only possible reason for Peter Benchley’s on set outburst over the rewritten climax, that led to him being removed from the filming at Martha’s Vineyard, is to hide the fact that he wished he had thought of the idea first. Benchley claims ‘I discovered in the process that books and movies are completely different media… but I liked the book as a book.’ However, nowadays, the book seems very 1970’s and outdated. The novel doesn’t have the lasting effect that will label it ‘timeless’. However, the same cannot be said of the film as you can still stick Jaws into your tape player and feel the same nervous energy intended thirty years ago.

http://www.hackwriters.com/jaws.htm

spielberg did the right thing here..

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skyjedi2005 said:

The reboot of doctor who was a huge success, and is probably a better idea for him to work on that. I can hardly blame Moffat. I would keep as Far away from Steven Spielberg or George Lucas as possible they ruined 2 franchises. Spielberg is not the go to guy for adapting books Look waht he did to jm Barries peter pan, he did far worse than disney could ever have done. And while Jaws was a good film it did not stay close to the original novel at all. Spielberg made up the ending as it is not in the book.

1. First of all, Steven Moffat wouldn't have had anything to do with George Lucas. Tintin is being helmed by Spielberg and Peter Jackson; Lucas is not involved.

2. Just because a movie is based on a book doesn't mean that no change the movie director makes can be as good or better as the book. Peter Benchley isn't exactly a high-profile author, and to be honest, the "Jaws" book sucked. Half of it was devoted to some shitty love triangle between Hooper and Brody's wife. I'm glad they cut all that.

To be honest i never read the book i was only saying Spielberg, and that would Include Peter Jackson are not the kind of guys authors want touching their material.

As a Tolkien fan i was horrified by the hamfisted changes Jackson inserted into a work that was not his own.

Not Only did NewLine butcher the master fantacists work but they did not even pay the tolkien estate their 2% of the net profits.  Which they are pursuing Legal action over and Christopher Tolkien is going to try and get all rights for the books back from Saul Zaentz due to breech of contract.  Meaning no Hobbit Movies.

Furthermore if tintin is a 100% cgi movie who do you think Spielbergs going to go for ideas, Lucas or bob z who did Beowulf.  Awful, awful, awful.  Any movie having its effects done by ILM lucas has a bad amount of relation to.  Even if weta does the effects for tintin what have they done since LOTR that fucking awful shit king kong, and lost the rights both to Evangelion and Halo.

Okay so the first narnia film was decent but the second one was shit.

How many traditional effects houses are left in Hollywood or as Independant's ? It seems to me that all new movies are crap cgi fests.

I wish the cgi overladen film era would implode.  i am sick of paying to see movies that Look like videogames and were written by a bunch of monkeys. Cgi and bad scripts ruined star wars and Indiana Jones.

skyjedi2005 said:

I wish the cgi overladen film era would implode.  i am sick of paying to see movies that Look like videogames and were written by a bunch of monkeys. Cgi and bad scripts ruined star wars and Indiana Jones.

 now that the CGI genie is out of the bottle, you can't put it back in.....you can only utilize

it sparsely or effectively if done right.... cost/time savings-wise, i'm sure its more of an

economic issue, rather than an aesthetic one..

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skyjedi2005 said:

To be honest i never read the book i was only saying Spielberg, and that would Include Peter Jackson are not the kind of guys authors want touching their material.

As a Tolkien fan i was horrified by the hamfisted changes Jackson inserted into a work that was not his own.

Not Only did NewLine butcher the master fantacists work but they did not even pay the tolkien estate their 2% of the net profits. Which they are pursuing Legal action over and Christopher Tolkien is going to try and get all rights for the books back from Saul Zaentz due to breech of contract. Meaning no Hobbit Movies.

Furthermore if tintin is a 100% cgi movie who do you think Spielbergs going to go for ideas, Lucas or bob z who did Beowulf. Awful, awful, awful. Any movie having its effects done by ILM lucas has a bad amount of relation to. Even if weta does the effects for tintin what have they done since LOTR that fucking awful shit king kong, and lost the rights both to Evangelion and Halo.

Okay so the first narnia film was decent but the second one was shit.

How many traditional effects houses are left in Hollywood or as Independant's ? It seems to me that all new movies are crap cgi fests.

I wish the cgi overladen film era would implode. i am sick of paying to see movies that Look like videogames and were written by a bunch of monkeys. Cgi and bad scripts ruined star wars and Indiana Jones.

Or maybe Spielberg will use Dreamworks to animate it, considering he's been using that company for over a fucking decade, dingleberry.

I actually Liked George Pal's version better because.  It had better actors, and real technical wizardry behind the effects not crap cgi.  Oh yeah the best reason no Tom Cruise, second best reason no script by david koepp.

Another pal film that is better than the remake is The Time Machine.

Kind of like how the original planet of the apes is a classic and that remake by burton is all kinds of horrible.

I am expecting nothing less also from the remake of The Day the earth Stood still.  The original is such a classic and is probably robert wise best sci fi film.  He also made the andromeda strain and star trek the motion picture.

Anyway getting back to Indiana Jones IV Kingdom of the Crystal Numbskull.  Can you believe Shia Lebouf actually defended the movie saying it is the same as the first 3 films and the same quality. 

Also saying the originals were not real and this one is not real also so they are the same. 

Yeah if he was right about Raiders and Last Crusade i would take my dvds and break them and throw them in the trash. But he is wrong because they don't have bad scripts and bad cgi.  Also he probably was not even born when Raiders first was in theaters, fucker thinks he can talk.  Man these kids who don't know a shit about the real indiana jones movies or the real star wars. They probably think the star wars trilogy premiered in 1997.  It is like the same retards who saw Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings and picked up the Tolkien Books thinking they were based on the movie and said. dude that tolkien person changed too much stuff.

Well, I think he's joking, but I consider the unnecessary alterations they already made to Raiders as a "special edition."

Vaderisnothayden said:

skyjedi2005 said:

The indiana jones special editions trilogy when released will have bad and fakely added cgi and walkie talkies instead of guns.

Um, I take it you're joking and there's no special edition? Or is there?

 

not yet,

but they're starting to slowly alter the original series..

see this post (picture):

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/State-of-the-Trilogy-annual-SW-depression/post/318144/#post318144

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There are alterations on the 2003 DVD release and subsequent releases.