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'Legacy' by X0-1138 - a fake and trolling 'project'

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A fully restored, colour corrected, video resolution enhanced and audio enhanced transfer of the original, unaltered trilogy.

The laserdiscs will transferred using the infamous X0 laserdisc player, considered the finest consumer player of all time.

Details coming (very) soon, stay tuned.

One more thing… in this trilogy, only Han shoots.

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I believe it when I see it... and I want to believe :-)

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COOL, another laserdisc capture, can't wait to see this.

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The only non-colour corrections will be frame glitches where part of the image skews and distorts unexpectedly due to frame damage or errors during the transfer of the films to the laserdisc format.

There's a possibility that I may remove 'Episode IV - A NEW HOPE' from the beginning of the crawl but I must stress, there shall be NO alterations other than the above mentioned.

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In what format are you planning on sharing these?

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Blu-ray and downloadable files. These will be upscaled (1080p) high definition files so they'll be BIG.

I'll be working at that resolution so if there is a demand for lower resolution, I'll rescale.

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Sounds great... I'll suggest a 720p MKV as an easier to share alternative :-)

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Good luck on that one LOL, I have done some upscales myself to 720p on the 06 DVD's and 97 DV broadcasts, and I just can't see getting anything higher than 720p, so I just CAN'T wait to see what your LD cap looks like at 1080p, this should be very interesting to say the least.

I won't respond no more, but I surely will be watching this thread to see some samples of this.

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Yes, I've always admired MKV for its ability to compress down well.

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Well, MKV is only a container format, but with a good AVC-compression the video WILL compress down nicely. The advantage of MKV is that it can hold all the audio-, video- and subtitle-tracks you might want (and allows people to add their own, if they want to).

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The reason for working at 1080p is to ensure I never have to worry about re-transferring the laserdiscs at a later date and having to redo all the work once home media devices are capable of streaming and playing 1080p content with ease.

It certainly will not look like high definition content but the laserdisc, the X0 player and the amount of work I am putting into this will allow us all to enjoy the original, unaltered trilogy as it was meant to be seen.

I shall be upscaling using a super-resolution application and using three reference monitors to ensure accurate colour on computing, televisual and portable devices.

Adywan is the best guy out there for colour timing, I wouldn't mind asking him for his input on how the trilogy should look.

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I also have an idea which is quite foolhardy but if it works...

I'm going to take the forthcoming deleted scenes, treat the video to match the laserdiscs as closely as possible, and then apply the same enhancements as is being used on my 1993 laserdiscs.

Essentially bring the deleted scene resolution down to laserdisc quality, flattening the colours slightly, then bringing it all back up alongside the 1993 laserdiscs.

1080p to laserdisc and then back again.

Using seamless branching, I intend to create 'Directors Cuts', not 'Special Editions'.

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Lucas, Kershner and Marquand (well, okay, mostly Lucas) cut those scenes out... so the original versions ARE the Director's Cuts ;-)

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Then consider it a 'Kitchen Sink Edition'.

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Best of luck with your project, XO-1138!  I hope you achieve your intentions.  Have fun. :)

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would capturing the japan special collection with the X0 be possible, the definitive collection is on dvd as the GOUT which beats most DC laserips there are other discs worth capping though

thanks

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Im interested in this, looking forward to seeing some samples.

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Well, I'm open to suggestions as to which laserdiscs are the best quality.

I'd be willing to use different video and audio sources, then syncing them up.

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Good luck with this project, sir!  I hope it works!

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No offense, but is this really going to be that much different than the X0 raw cap we got from Zion? Obviously it'll be in a single file and easier to manage, mind you, but what can be done with the X0 straight has been done. What kind of enhancements, if any, are you planning besides switching out the crawl?

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Well, I'm open to suggestions as to which laserdiscs are the best quality.

The Definitive Collections probably have the best quality but unless you can muster more quality out of than the GOUT, it would be similar to Zion's raw capture, as said. The laserdiscs will tend to be lower quality (in most places) since the GOUT was sourced from the laserdisc master.

I know that many people will disagree with me but I agree with toho-scope. A JSC transfer may be interesting, especially upscaled to 1080p. It is older and a less clear picture but won't have the smearing that the upscale might emphasize. The colors also are unique (eg. Hoth is completely white).

In any case, good luck on this project!

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I concur with others, the raw original X0 project files were released, and everyone deemed them mostly not worthwhile. A transfer of the JSC would be more desirable, especially since episodes IV and V only saw release in the impossible-to-find and less-than-stellar-quality Dark-Sega set.

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There's a possibility that I may remove 'Episode IV - A NEW HOPE' from the beginning of the crawl but I must stress, there shall be NO alterations other than the above mentioned.

 I don't know why the 80s crawl bothers so many people. I know it's about preservation, but every time I see it without the "New Hope", it always looks so naked to me (and both crawls are proper theatrical crawls, anyway).

 Different strokes, I suppose.

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The reason for working at 1080p is to ensure I never have to worry about re-transferring the laserdiscs at a later date and having to redo all the work once home media devices are capable of streaming and playing 1080p content with ease.


There is one massive disadvantage of upscaling (one that I'm always going on about, I know). Once it's been upscaled, that's it - you can never go back. What if someone invents a better upscaling method? I truly believe it's far, far better to leave video at its original resolution.

Upscaling in playback devices is already quite advanced, and it'll get better - lock it down now, and no-one can ever take advantage of that in the future.

SD video is going to be supported well into the future, so I don't see your logic about not having to redo the work.

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Ok, I've sourced the JSC at a reasonable price and I'm going to essentially take the films back to how they appeared in the very first prints.

Of course, information on exactly how the first prints were edited will allow me to roll back any subsequent changes that appear in the JSC versions of the films. Consider this project a history lesson in how the movies appeared for the very first time on the opening nights in North America.

I intend to upscale from the beginning because it will give me a bigger canvas to work from and I do not just upscale, I carefully analyse each and every scene to ensure sharpening, colour timing and any grading issues are taken care of rather than just running the whole film through the upscaler and waiting a few hours.

I can't see any miraculous improvements to appear in upscaling technology in the near future so once the movies are completed and rendered, I shall convert from the 1080p 'master' as and when needed.

I might even create a 16:9 or 4:3 friendly version using my crazier ideas about dynamic pan and scan.

Also, how do I go about changing the thread subject title to reflect the move from X0 to JSC and also the 'history lesson' idea?