"Ashes to Ashes" had much more of a feminine twist to the style of the writing music, situations, and production design. For this reason, I personally did not enjoy it as much as "Life on Mars". Hunt also became much more of a cardboard cut out of a character as the show went on.
But still, very good shows.
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"Ashes to Ashes" had much more of a feminine twist to the style of the writing music, situations, and production design. For this reason, I personally did not enjoy it as much as "Life on Mars". Hunt also became much more of a cardboard cut out of a character as the show went on.
But still, very good shows.
Agreed completely. Feels like a bit of a shadow of Life on Mars, but Life on Mars was so good, even its shadow is pretty enjoyable.
As for the feminine twists, they don't bother me too much. I think I am immune. I work in a female dominated profession and spend most of my free time with my girlfriend. I am used to the estrogen overload. Wow, now that I think about it, I really miss having obnoxious male room mates who run around the apartment with their dicks hanging out for kicks.
FanFiltration said:
Ripplin said:
I did one of The IT Crowd as well:
OMG!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
I was in desperate need of something to get me out of an emotional funk, and this show has been the best medication.
I had no idea that this show even existed. I started watching IT last night after seeing this post. WOW! I also watched AD/BC for the first time last night (on the recommendation posted in this thread). Richard Ayoade's comic brilliancy is stunning.
I have been a Matt Berry and "Boosh" fan for a few years now (having discovered that show in the import DVD section of my local used video shop about 2 years ago).
If you liked AD/BC, you may like Matt's album "Opium".
It's played often in my home.
I'm so glad we have these threads, so we can help each other discover new things.
THANKS!
Glad to help in my own way. ;)
Now we just need a proper release of this:
(from Darkplace)
Hey, do you, like me, feel that season one of Boosh is the best? I found it pretty consistently enjoyable, but then hit-and-miss later on.
Ripplin said:
Hey, do you, like me,<snip>?
Well... that depends... Do you, like me<snip>?
IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!
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CP3S said: Wow, now that I think about it, I really miss having obnoxious male room mates who run around the apartment with their dicks hanging out for kicks.
*giggle*
Yeah...
*sigh*
Bingowings said:
CP3S said: Wow, now that I think about it, I really miss having obnoxious male room mates who run around the apartment with their dicks hanging out for kicks.
*giggle*
Yeah...
*sigh*
Of course, the more I think about it the less I miss it. Though I'm not gonna lie, the gratuitous humping was fun.
That reminds me of my year in as the only male in a house full of nymphomaniac nursing students.
It was like trying to sleep through an orchestra of see-saws.
You lead an interesting life.Bingowings said:
That reminds me of my year in as the only male in a house full of nymphomaniac nursing students.
It was like trying to sleep through an orchestra of see-saws.
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Past tense I'm afraid (well most of the time).
CP3S said:
Finally getting around to watching Ashes to Ashes. I loved Life on Mars...
I'm going to say I like "Ashes to Ashes" more than "Life on Mars".
I mean, "Life on Mars" is great, but "Ashes to Ashes" has more meaning behind it.
Wait, we're talking about Bowie songs, right? :p
Ripplin said:
Now we just need a proper release of this:
(from Darkplace)Hey, do you, like me, feel that season one of Boosh is the best? I found it pretty consistently enjoyable, but then hit-and-miss later on.
Just watched the first episode of "Darkplace", and it's brilliant!
Series one of Boosh does seem to have a noticeably different vibe from the other two. That may have to do with the amount of time spent on the stories used for that series. They had been around for some time before filming, and had been polished a bit more. Also they had BBC Radio presentations done of them, so that material was well known. The stories in the last two series went straight to T.V. (bypassing any Radio adaptations), so that may have had something to do with the change in style and vibe. I just can't say that I like the first season more because such great situations and new great characters arrive in series two. Characters such as Tony Harrison and Saboo. Episodes like "Crackfox" and "Milky Joe" are still contain some the most insane and shocking subject matter I have ever seen on a main stream television.
I love it all!!!
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Ziggy Stardust said:
CP3S said:
Finally getting around to watching Ashes to Ashes. I loved Life on Mars...
I'm going to say I like "Ashes to Ashes" more than "Life on Mars".
I mean, "Life on Mars" is great, but "Ashes to Ashes" has more meaning behind it.
Wait, we're talking about Bowie songs, right? :p
Actually... yeah, we are. I've always liked Bowie's Life on Mars, and never really cared much for Ashes to Ashes. But now that the TV show Ashes to Ashes frequently plays the song throughout I find it growing on me... and stuck in my head. Been humming it all day in fact.
It does!?!? I'll have to check this show out...
If you haven't seen the video for "Ashes to Ashes", here it is:
Ziggy Stardust said:
CP3S said:
Finally getting around to watching Ashes to Ashes. I loved Life on Mars...
I'm going to say I like "Ashes to Ashes" more than "Life on Mars".
I mean, "Life on Mars" is great, but "Ashes to Ashes" has more meaning behind it.
Wait, we're talking about Bowie songs, right? :p
We're also talking about the television shows that aired on the BBC. They're both sort of time-travel-y Fantasy-ey Cop shows, and the best bit is that they're both named after Bowie songs. You should watch them, they're good. Don't watch the American remake though, that sucked.
(SPOILER SPOILER SPOILERThe year the song came out is the year that is depicted)
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I liked Life on Mars a lot more. I didn't even know there was more than one season of Ashes to Ashes... not sure I made it to the end of season one.
I will not spoil the ending but all I will say is I thought the official end to the LOM/A2A story was at least as rubbish as the rushed ending of the American version (if not more so) and this was from someone who at times preferred A2A.
I really liked the ambiguous ending to LOM. I found it satisfying while still leaving things open for the viewer to take it however they like. I've heard spoilers for AtA that seem like it spells out pretty definitively what is going on, I was hoping they'd still try to leave it at least a little mysterious.
Seems like we have too many decent sci-fi shows that try to explain all the weird things that happened in them (Lost and BSG, being two other recent examples) and ultimately it just takes away the magic and makes a definitive ending a lot of people aren't satisfied with. Lost could have benefited from leaving things a bit more ambiguous, and BSG really had no reason to sink into the supernatural realm at all (it was never that kind of show, the addition of it was not that intriguing, and it ended up really making it jump the shark that last season. If you're really that short on ideas, maybe it was time to end the show a season sooner).
Though I really don't think anything could be more rubbish than the ending to the American's LOM. Makes me shudder just thinking about it. Its ending was so bad, it made Lost's finale look perfect. The "Ah, phew, it was all just a bad dream" ending is about the cheapest cop out you can get. Then making him an astronaut on a flight to mars was even more lame and took away the meaning of the title by making it literal. Oops, I guess those were spoilers. If it stops just one person who reads this from suffering through the show, then I feel I have done a good deed.
Ziggy Stardust said:
It does!?!? I'll have to check this show out...
If you haven't seen the video for "Ashes to Ashes", here it is:
I've seen the video before. The clown from the video plays a major(ish) role in the TV show (though he's not played by Bowie, of course).
I kind of think you might like both shows, actually. Maybe you should check them out. Ashes to Ashes is the sequel to Life on Mars, so make sure you check out LOM first. And when looking for Life on Mars, be sure to keep a safe distance away from the American remake, it has been known to cause cancer in laboratory rats and could be hazardous to your health.
Arguably BSG didn't sink to supernatural depths (as we have no idea what the God thing that doesn't like to be called God is).
That take on 'the supernatural' was in the pilot and in the progenitor series too.
Caprica began to heavily hint that our reality is their virtual reality so the God thing and the Lords Of Kobol is/are a higher level of programmer/s, thus deflating the wrath of the Dawkins' brigade (not that I feel it needed to).
I don't mind getting clear cut explanations to shows built on mystery.
It is more difficult to do it in a satisfactory fashion than to leave some ambiguity.
Its not like "God" came out of nowhere on BSG. A lot of the series and ALL of Caprica were about poly- vs. mono- theism. A "God did it" ending is what the series was always leading up to, we were just too dense to realize it.
LOST, however, changed a bit too much in the final few episodes for the ending to be completely satisfying.
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doubleofive said:
Its not like "God" came out of nowhere on BSG. A lot of the series and ALL of Caprica were about poly- vs. mono- theism. A "God did it" ending is what the series was always leading up to, we were just too dense to realize it.
Characters discussing theology and talking about their beliefs is a long ways off from a "A wizard God did it!" conclusion. I don't think that makes us dense nor does it make the ending any better or confirm that a "God did it" ending was in store for us all along. Caprica came after BSG, so I can easily see them following that theme now that it has been established.
I think we simply have a trend of writers digging holes way to deep in the interest of intrigue and mystery, then when it comes time to explain these mysteries they have to scratch their heads for a bit while they come up with the sturdiest ladder they can think up to allow themselves to climb out and make a quick get away.
CP3S said:
Ziggy Stardust said:
It does!?!? I'll have to check this show out...
If you haven't seen the video for "Ashes to Ashes", here it is:
I've seen the video before. The clown from the video plays a major(ish) role in the TV show (though he's not played by Bowie, of course).
I kind of think you might like both shows, actually. Maybe you should check them out. Ashes to Ashes is the sequel to Life on Mars, so make sure you check out LOM first. And when looking for Life on Mars, be sure to keep a safe distance away from the American remake, it has been known to cause cancer in laboratory rats and could be hazardous to your health.
Alright, I'll try my best to avoid the American version. What is it with all the American versions of TV shows?
Are there episodes of the show on the internet?
Well, that depends on your definition of "internet".
Eh?
CP3S said:
doubleofive said:
Its not like "God" came out of nowhere on BSG. A lot of the series and ALL of Caprica were about poly- vs. mono- theism. A "God did it" ending is what the series was always leading up to, we were just too dense to realize it.
Characters discussing theology and talking about their beliefs is a long ways off from a "A wizard God did it!" conclusion.
It was always on the cards that in concluding the Harry Potter Series "A Wizard or Wizards did it" would be a perfectly applicable description because in that rare instance the story is primarily about wizards.
BSG has in all it's incarnations been about the creator and the created and how one was once the other and the other may one day become the one.
It stems from Larson's Mormon background.
In the original show you had Angels who were created by a God trying to help humanity survive so that one day it could one day become angelic itself.
A lot of viewers who followed NuGalactica were so caught up in the Nu they forgot about the Galactica.
The new show tied the Cylons into that cycle and replaced the obvious good God and bad Demiurge Iblis with a single 'thing' that some creatures call God but is neither good nor evil (or is it both?) and seems to have a rational origin anyway.
Why should anyone be surprised to find out that a God thing and some angel things were behind it all when A) it's pretty much spelt out in the pilot episode and B) it was in the original show.
