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I’m 42 years old, saw Ghostbusters in the theaters in 1984 at the age of 10, rate it in my top ten of all time favorite movies, and just assumed this reboot would be shit. The trailers did nothing to change my mind.

But seeing is believing.

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Under My Thumb - The Rolling Stones

Without a doubt my favorite Stones song (other than Beast of Burden of course). Absolutely great; it’s a bit underrated. I don’t see why it doesn’t get more airplay.

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moviefreakedmind said:

Under My Thumb - The Rolling Stones

Without a doubt my favorite Stones song (other than Beast of Burden of course). Absolutely great; it’s a bit underrated. I don’t see why it doesn’t get more airplay.

Probably because it’s not a movie.

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TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Under My Thumb - The Rolling Stones

Without a doubt my favorite Stones song (other than Beast of Burden of course). Absolutely great; it’s a bit underrated. I don’t see why it doesn’t get more airplay.

Probably because it’s not a movie.

Beat me to it.

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*head in hands sobbing*

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Tyrphanax said:

There’s definitely an element of confirmation bias. But when all the trailers come out looking just atrocious, and then reviews from people I generally agree with on movies come out saying that it’s just as bad as the trailers, I feel pretty justified in thinking I was right. I mean, there’s “updating the humor” and then there’s replacing humor with “queef” jokes. If that’s humor for younger generations, then I guess I’m older than I thought.

What I’ll say is I avoided the trailers because I hate trailers for many reasons, an obvious one bring that they are typically misleading. Comedy trailers tend to be especially bad.

For example, by my count there’s exactly one queef joke in the film, and it’s less “hey haha queefs are so funny” and more “wow this character is a freakin weirdo because she thinks queefs are funny,” it’s basically part of her introduction and gives you an idea of what sort of character she’ll be (side note, said character is also probably the main reason to see the film - she’s so strange but so funny, gotta love Kate McKinnon). Context is key.

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Yeah, we’ll see.

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I’m not gonna defend a queef joke. But luckily those were very few and far between.

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TV’s Frink said:

I’m not gonna defend a queef joke. But luckily those were very few and far between.

To be clear I’m not necessarily defending it (and again there was only one) just saying that it’s not quite as dumb as “queefs are funny” and it could even be said this is character building (pretty sure it’s McKinnon’s first line in the film which means it’s saying something about her character). Again, I’m not defending it, just saying it’s not simply gross out humor for the sake of gross out humor.

I also think there’s something to be said about the mere inclusion of a queef joke as something resembling progress in how we deal with certain feminine taboos. Obviously it’s immature but it’s equality in immaturity. It’s not quite the same thing as the farting in Blazing Saddles but it’s along those lines if you get what I mean.

Of course I’m now going far too in depth on the subject that the fact remains that you shouldn’t really take a snippet of a queef joke in a trailer as evidence that a movie sucks. It’s not a great comparison for a couple reasons but let’s not forget that there’s a burping alien in Return of the Jedi.

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DominicCobb said:

I also think there’s something to be said about the mere inclusion of a queef joke as something resembling progress in how we deal with certain feminine taboos.

Vaginal fart jokes are empowering ;^)

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Jeebus said:

DominicCobb said:

I also think there’s something to be said about the mere inclusion of a queef joke as something resembling progress in how we deal with certain feminine taboos.

Vaginal fart jokes are empowering ;^)

Yeah, I’m not sure a queef joke is really a victory for feminism…

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Yeah it’s silly and immature but feminism isn’t all about female empowerment, it’s about female equality. So as dumb as it is it’s good to see women being silly and immature too.

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DominicCobb said:

Yeah it’s silly and immature but feminism isn’t all about female empowerment, it’s about female equality. So as dumb as it is it’s good to see women being silly and immature too.

I’m sure every burka-clad woman in the Middle East awaiting execution for “witchcraft” can sleep easy now that this victory for womankind has been made manifest in the Ghostbusters reboot.

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Women don’t need to make queef jokes to be silly and immature (and actually funny) though. I can be silly and immature (and actually funny) without making a joke about my balls or some other male-specific “gross-out” thing.

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moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

Yeah it’s silly and immature but feminism isn’t all about female empowerment, it’s about female equality. So as dumb as it is it’s good to see women being silly and immature too.

I’m sure every burka-clad woman in the Middle East awaiting execution for “witchcraft” can sleep easy now that this victory for womankind has been made manifest in the Ghostbusters reboot.

Baby steps.

Oh wait, this is probably one of your famous “jokes.”

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TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

Yeah it’s silly and immature but feminism isn’t all about female empowerment, it’s about female equality. So as dumb as it is it’s good to see women being silly and immature too.

I’m sure every burka-clad woman in the Middle East awaiting execution for “witchcraft” can sleep easy now that this victory for womankind has been made manifest in the Ghostbusters reboot.

Baby steps.

Oh wait, this is probably one of your famous “jokes.”

Nope, (to invoke the tone of impscum) I’m just pointing out backwards priorities. Don’t claim to be “empowering women” with nonsense like this.

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I think you’re confusing empowerment and equality.

JEDIT: Dom already said that but you did it anyway.

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TV’s Frink said:

I think you’re confusing empowerment and equality.

JEDIT: Dom already said it but you did it anyway.

Whatever, I wasn’t aware that women were executed in America for making bad jokes. I’m just pointing out the startling silence on real issues of gender inequality.

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moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

I think you’re confusing empowerment and equality.

JEDIT: Dom already said it but you did it anyway.

Whatever, I wasn’t aware that women were executed in America for making bad jokes. I’m just pointing out the startling silence on real issues of gender inequality.

Well as long as you don’t start overreacting by taking everything to an absurd extreme. I’d hate for that to start happening.

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Tyrphanax said:

Women don’t need to make queef jokes to be silly and immature (and actually funny) though. I can be silly and immature (and actually funny) without making a joke about my balls or some other male-specific “gross-out” thing.

Agreed but the fact that this was maybe the only queef joke I think I’ve seen in any movie tells me that there’s a taboo there and however immature (and unfunny) I think there’s something to appreciate about the taboo being broken.

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DominicCobb said:

Agreed but the fact that this was maybe the only queef joke I think I’ve seen in any movie tells me that there’s a taboo there

I don’t know how that’s what you would get out of that. It tells me that most writers recognize that queef jokes aren’t funny and decided not to make any.

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Jeebus said:

DominicCobb said:

Agreed but the fact that this was maybe the only queef joke I think I’ve seen in any movie tells me that there’s a taboo there

I don’t know how that’s what you would get out of that. It tells me that most writers recognize that queef jokes aren’t funny and decided not to make any.

I don’t even know why I bothered bringing this up. It’s all really besides the point.

Anyway, you’re honestly telling me that all the writers of movies with dick jokes, nut sack jokes, fart jokes, etc. drew the line at queef jokes because of course those aren’t funny?

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DominicCobb said:

Jeebus said:

DominicCobb said:

Agreed but the fact that this was maybe the only queef joke I think I’ve seen in any movie tells me that there’s a taboo there

I don’t know how that’s what you would get out of that. It tells me that most writers recognize that queef jokes aren’t funny and decided not to make any.

I don’t even know why I bothered bringing this up. It’s all really besides the point.

Anyway, you’re honestly telling me that all the writers of movies with dick jokes, nut sack jokes, fart jokes, etc. drew the line at queef jokes because of course those aren’t funny?

I don’t think the person writing dick jokes is the same person saying that queef jokes aren’t funny. In other words, if the writer is such an unfunny hack that they think that dick jokes are funny, they probably think queef jokes are funny too.

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I don’t know what a “queef” is, and I don’t wanna know.

I think it’s important to note that queef is not exactly a common term, most people don’t know what it is. And jokes don’t really work if you don’t know what they’re referencing.

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DominicCobb said:

Tyrphanax said:

Women don’t need to make queef jokes to be silly and immature (and actually funny) though. I can be silly and immature (and actually funny) without making a joke about my balls or some other male-specific “gross-out” thing.

Agreed but the fact that this was maybe the only queef joke I think I’ve seen in any movie tells me that there’s a taboo there and however immature (and unfunny) I think there’s something to appreciate about the taboo being broken.

I will concede that. If it makes women more comfortable being human, that’s a good thing.

However: and I kinda began to allude to this before, but I think my issue with this situation isn’t so much that the joke is about vaginal flatulence, but more that they made a gross-out joke at all (fart, queef, poop, dick, ballsack, washing slime out of “every crack”, whatever), and that the decided it was strong enough to put it prominently in a trailer (which sets a tone for the film).

Immature and especially gross-out “humor” has never been my thing (I can’t remember an instance where I’ve found myself enjoying a fart joke) and I always feel like it lowers a film to a certain level of immaturity and unfunniness.

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