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BLAM BLAM!
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Since we're discussing episode 3 here, lemme ask you something: is it true/confirmed that James Earl Jones will voice Darth Vader in episode 3? I mean, I've heard of puberty voice changes, but this is ridiculous...
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True... but it is hard to imagine any other voice coming from that mask isn't it?
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Originally posted by: Jedi Master DJR
How about

"They are our new hope," Yoda talking to Obi-Wan.


Nice idea. This raises one issue though - that of a plot hole in ESB. In the scene where Luke leaves Dagobah to help Han and Leia, Obi-Wan turns to Yoda and says "That boy is our last hope", to which Yoda replies "No, there is another". This would suggest, on first viewing, that Obi-Wan is unaware that Leia is also a Skywalker. Yet, in RTJ, Obi-Wan reveals to Luke that he does indeed know that Leia is his sister. Why then, would he act like he didn't know of this "other hope" in ESB?

Perhaps, perhaps, at the time of ESB he really is unaware of Leia's status, then, after Luke has left, Yoda informs him of the full story. That would explain how Obi-Wan is able to tell the story to Luke in RTJ, whilst apparently not knowing in ESB.

In ANH when Obi-Wan first sees Leia on the hologram message, he obviously recognises her, and obviously knows the identify of her 'father' to whom she refers in the message (Bail Organa). Yet that does not necessarily mean that he knows her full background and significance.

If this is the case, then the final line of Ep3 as suggested by Jedi Master DJR could not be possible, as Obi-Wan would be ignorant of there being two offspring of Anakin/Padme, just as Anakin and Palpatine were. Yet if Obi-Wan does know, and such a final line is possible, how do we account for his apparent ignorance of Leia when he talks to Yoda in ESB? Surely if he knew of her parentage he would not be saying that Luke was the 'Last Hope'.

Perhaps the final scenes of Ep3 will be similar to the final scenes of RTJ, which is in fact three different concurrent scenes - the Ewok battle on Endor, Lando and the Rebel Fleet attacking the Death Star, and Luke, Vader and the Emperor duelling inside the Death Star.

How about 3 similar concurrent scenes for the end of Ep 3 - in Scene 1, Obi-Wan is duelling with Anakin in the lava pit; in Scene 2 Palpatine and Dooku, having taken over the Curscant and the Senate, are duelling with Windu and the remaining Jedi (Samuel L heroically takes out Dooku only to get wasted by Palpatine afterwards), AND, in Scene 3, meanwhile, over at the maternity hospital, Yoda is tending to Padme's birth, giving away one baby to Bail, whilst passing on the other one to the Lars family ?

Perhaps the last line of Ep3 could be Yoda telling Owen and Beru to be careful with their new kid:

"Not a farmer is he. Too much of his father in him he he has."

"You will never find a more wretched hive of Scum and Villianny. We must be cautious."
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Thee is a much more simple explanation for the "There is another" line; maybe Obi Wan simply doesn't consider Leia to have the potential the Luke does, but Yoda beleives differently, or is able to sense the force in Leia more adeptly than Obi Wan does.
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because leia cannot complete her training or even receive training as much as luke had received...
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
Since we're discussing episode 3 here, lemme ask you something: is it true/confirmed that James Earl Jones will voice Darth Vader in episode 3? I mean, I've heard of puberty voice changes, but this is ridiculous...

I don't think puberty is an issue here. When the mask was taken off in ROTJ and Sebastian Shaw was revealed, he sounded nothing like JEJ. So we don't need to justify anything for Anakin maturing enough to sound like JEJ. Non issue.
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I agree with Bossk about the voice and I also thought Obi-Wan said that because he didn't consider Leia devoted enough or to have the time to become a Jedi. (Especially if Obi-Wan sensed, as being part of the Force, that Yoda would die in about a year's time.) Your view is also legitmate of course.
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i think the ending of Episode III should have no talkin... maybe just have a photo montage of images...
quick glances of what each person i going through and what not...
i dont want too much information given away...

i figure a nice 30 - 50 seconds of just music and character montages...
perhaps anakin getting operated on, padme giving birth, sidious smiling.... stuff like that...

i dunno... im all about less is more so i find that dialogue may ruin the ending or give away too much..
just me though
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Kinda reminds me too much of the end of Lethal Weapon 4 and I just don't see it working.

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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
i think the ending of Episode III should have no talkin... maybe just have a photo montage of images...
quick glances of what each person i going through and what not...
i dont want too much information given away...

i figure a nice 30 - 50 seconds of just music and character montages...
perhaps anakin getting operated on, padme giving birth, sidious smiling.... stuff like that...

i dunno... im all about less is more so i find that dialogue may ruin the ending or give away too much..
just me though


LOL - with the "why cant we be friends" song?
Fans would go wild
Sounds too much like a TV series ending episode though
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
LOL - with the "why cant we be friends" song?
Fans would go wild
Sounds too much like a TV series ending episode though

Ironically enough, isn't that the song they used at the end of Lethal Weapon 4 or was it "We Are Family"?
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Thats the one, I think... Thats why I mentioned it.
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I was wondering if that was why you said it, but I wanted to make sure.
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After the scene of Ani's rebirth as Darth Vader he should come out and say something evil in James Earl Jone's and then it should cut to Obi-wan taking baby Luke to Owen and Beru, who just got married or something and he should tell them to raise Luke and say something about him being the Galaxy's only hope--to tie it in with Episode four. And then it cuts to the Imperial fleet with the Imperial March playing and then we see Vader and Palpatine together and they have a mercifully brief evil discussion and then it cuts to the credits.

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How about just a scene of the Emperor and Darth rubbing thier hands together and cackling with evil glee?
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As Monty Burns would say, "Excellent."

Princess Leia: I happen to like nice men.
Han Solo: I'm a nice man.

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LOL! that would be awesome.
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Do you think maybe Darth is fixated with his boss like Smithers is??
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not sure.
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Well, so long as the naked, flight fantasies don't play in...
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Originally posted by: Samatar
How about just a scene of the Emperor and Darth rubbing thier hands together and cackling with evil glee?


Then Palpatine puts his little finger next to his mouth and says "And now I will rule the... universe! Huahahah! Hahahaha!"

And he orders the kamino cloners to make him a Mini-me.

Palpatine and Vader are talking:

"Bring young Skywalker to me."
"But he'll never..."
"Shhh!"
"Luke will never..."
"Shhh!"
"Oh yeah very mature..."
"Zip it!"
"Look, the thing is..."
*takes an imaginary lightsaber, and as he swings it* "ziiipt it! ziiiip it!"
"Please could you stop..."
"Shut your pie hole! I have a plan here!"
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering