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Lack of humanity in prequels?

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This may sound silly, but one of my main complaints about the PT is the lack of not just actors, but human beings. It seems that GL has consciously decided to make the PT galaxy a much more diverse one, as opposed to the human-centric one in the OT, which is somewhat understandable. However, at least for me, something gets lost along the way. Perhaps it's harder to relate to non-human characters? Or perhaps there are SO many 'aliens' that their overall impact is watered down?

Anyway, what do you prefer? Do think the SW universe should be a human one, with a random 'alien' thrown in here and there for good measure? Or do you prefer a more fantasy oriented universe with a wide variety of creatures and races? Would it help if they kept the large amount of aliens in the PT, but instead made the bad guys (battle droids, Geonosians) human (MPAA-rating not withstanding)?
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For me, it wasn't so much the fact that there were more creatures, it was just that they were thrown together. There didn't seem to be much sense behind it beyond, "Oh, let's put that guy there" and so on. Not to mention that many of the creatures aren't real... that diminishes their effect.

Another possibility is that the Empire has been known in the EU to dislike aliens. Maybe there was a genocide of sorts between the prequels and the OT?

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There are lots of aliens and non-human characters on the PT's because of GL's love for CGI, no other explanation for that. And yes, it kinda makes the movies not as good as the OT.
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CGI, for all its worth, just doesn't seem to "fit" (at least not yet) as realistically and naturally with humans as do puppets. Am I crazy or have you noticed this? Another BIG problem is that GL is not quite the best director in the world.... I'll admit that Mark Hamill may not be the best actor in the world either, but he sure had chemistry with Fisher/Ford/etc., while better-known actors in the PT just plain suck. Please take the time to REALLY watch the "romantic-yet-tragic" dialogue by the fire between Amidala and Anakin in AOTC, and please tell me that I'm not the only one to find REALLY bad acting there!
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Puppet or digital its all fake its all the same. Digital does move better. Digital is best. George knows what he is doing.
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Perfect 5th, you are so right. That fireside scene is just painful to watch. Bad acting and bad dialogue.
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Perfect 5th, you are so right. That fireside scene is just painful to watch. Bad acting and bad dialogue.


But come on look at Portmans outfit. Damn how does she breath in that thing. Plus come on "The thought of not being with you I can't breath" Explains alot.
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Also the more aliens the better. I assume the lack of aliens in the original trilogy is thanks to the fact that the Empire were human supremesists.
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But come on look at Portmans outfit.


Did nothing for me.

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But come on look at Portmans outfit.


Did nothing for me.


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But come on look at Portmans outfit.


Did nothing for me.


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Puppet or digital its all fake its all the same. Digital does move better. Digital is best. George knows what he is doing.


Except puppets dont look fake because they are actual tangible objects. The Actors can interect better with it cause its actually there so their not guessing as to where it is. Sure they gave yoda more facial expressions in episode II (actually in the OT he had none) but he despite that as a puppet he still displayed emotion exceptionally well.

Digital is not necessarily the best. As i stated in the Han/R2 thread Lucas has an apparent hard on for anything and everything digital and its part of the reason so many people hate/were dissappointed with the prequals. He's trying to be ground breaking and do all this new and inventive stuff with cgi just like he did with the special effects in the OT, and while he's focusing on all the CGI crap he's not paying attention to the story as a whole.

I know people have said this to you before but its the story that makes the movie, not the special effects.


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Also the more aliens the better.


this isnt necessarily true, did you ever hear of overcrowding a scene? Too much of something, even if its a good thing (not saying all the digital aliens are) is bad.

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More aliens makes more sense given how many races lived in a galaxy far far away. One question if the Empire were such human supremasists why is the reballion 90% human. Id think most alien races would love to kick the Empires ass more then most humans.
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I'm sorry but that whole 'The Empire are human supremacists' is EU bunk. Nothing like that has ever been stated in the films.

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Sexual orientation aside, even if I were straight I would still say the scene sucked. She could have been sitting there naked and the scene would have still sucked. It was bad acting and bad dialogue. There's no two ways about it.
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More aliens makes more sense given how many races lived in a galaxy far far away. One question if the Empire were such human supremasists why is the reballion 90% human. Id think most alien races would love to kick the Empires ass more then most humans.


wow, it must look like im trying to go against everything jimbo says, im really not

actually i think that yeah, there probably should have been more aliens in the rebellion but they dont need to be cgi, and the movie works with out that so why go back and add them in, because the just end up looking out of place.

second, the PT takes you onto only a handful of planets, and it doesnt always make sense for there to be a wide variety of species on each of these planets. But where it does make sense, coruscant and tatooine are the main ones that come to mind, there were lots of various aliens in the background. But ive never said anything against using cgi characters as background characters that no one interacts with, its just when you start slowly replacing all the main characters with CGI just because you like CGi that it becomes a problem, and has the potential to take away from the movie where as special effects are supposed to add to the movie experience not take away from the actual story and characters

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Why Anakin really turned to the dark side:
"Anakin, You're father I am" - Yoda
"No. No. That's not true! That's impossible!" - Anakin

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I'm sorry but that whole 'The Empire are human supremacists' is EU bunk. Nothing like that has ever been stated in the films.


While it makes sense. Why the hell else would all Imperial troops and officers all be humans. Other lines that suggest this

"Where are you taking this thing" Showing that he doesn't respect Chewbacca's race as a sentient being

"I don't think the Empire had wookies in mind when they designed her Chewy" Showing that only humans are going to fly it
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its just when you start slowly replacing all the main characters with CGI just because you like CGi that it becomes a problem, and has the potential to take away from the movie where as special effects are supposed to add to the movie experience not take away from the actual story and characters.


Again, totally true.

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I'm sorry but that whole 'The Empire are human supremacists' is EU bunk. Nothing like that has ever been stated in the films.

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Oh yeah I forgot


Sexual orientation aside, even if I were straight I would still say the scene sucked. She could have been sitting there naked and the scene would have still sucked. It was bad acting and bad dialogue. There's no two ways about it.


Spoken like a true queerman.
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Spoken like a true queerman.


Be careful, Jimbo. You're treading very close to the line here.

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Spoken like a true queerman.


Be careful, Jimbo. You're treading very close to the line here.


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If you have to ask, then you've already answered that question.
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Ooops. Double post for some reason.
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Great, Jimbo has now personally insulted someone for their sexual orientation. This forum has just reached a new low.

Jimbo, you're a worthless drag on the gene pool. It's unfortunate that your sexual predilictions might (assuming your ignorant ass ever gets past 1st base) actually allow you to reproduce some day.
For as much as some people claim to hate what Star Wars has become, they sure seem incapable of shutting up about it.
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Rebel Rouser, it's not the first time that he's done that.
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Well, it's the first time I've seen it... *sigh*

I mean, I've heard him spouting off with some ignorant homophobic bullshit before, but I've never seen him personally insult someone for it. He's a prick.
For as much as some people claim to hate what Star Wars has become, they sure seem incapable of shutting up about it.