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If it were pans Frink would be right to be worried but mugs and egg cups have the opposite effect.

Everybody knows that.

Bingowings said:

If it were pans Frink would be right to be worried but mugs and egg cups have the opposite effect.

Everybody knows that.

Well...I do now...

TV's Frink said:

It's amazing how many idiots surround twooffour every time he posts.  I think he's LOST reality.

Yea, happens all the time in real life.
If you didn't know that, and thought that majority decides accuracy, it's about time you realize it now.

I hate to be resembling a certain former member of this community here (one you were so certain for a fact was me, although it was just your unsupported opinion... heh, nice one, that was), but herd mentality is the obvious explanation.


We're not talking about "everytime he posts SOMEWHERE" here - we're talking about here, with about the same people reading. Who remember past incidents.

And it's very likely for a group to focus on an individual (or some other particular group), and start acting stupid around them without even realizing.
Some of it may have to do with the formed intent to "dismiss this stupid person", and from that comes paying less attention, selective reading, artificial dismissal of points, and the whole jazz chart basically.

I've been on the other side of the fence quite a few times (someone on the board labeled as a doofus, or troll, or whatever - and I realize how my reactions to that person start to change), so I know what I'm talking about.

I bet you've never been on the other side (surrounded by a bunch of people with idiotic accusations and statements, still knowing you're right because you can actually back up), so you don't know. Oh well.

CP3S said:

twooffour said:

What I don't get is why the bomb didn't blow up. Or it blew up, but only like a firecraker? I forget.

I guess you missed the part about not being able to change the past? The island blows up in the past, no plane crash in the future; plan did crash in the future, therefore island can't blow up in the past.

Initially season six seemed pretty amazing when the idea seemed to be that we were dealing with split timelines,

'Timeline A': Desmond doesn't press the button and brings down the plane.

'Timeline B': Bomb blows up the island resulting in no button, no stranded Desmond, and no plane crash. All the influences the island had on the outside world from that point on never happened, resulting in significant variations in the lives of many of the main characters.

I really loved the 'Timeline B' concept being shown through the flash-sideways, which really added to the disappointment when the show revealed that the flash-sideways were just the characters existences in limbo, and not actually a 'Timeline B'.

:(

 

Pretty sure it was a cop-out at the last writing minute.

I don't think I've missed anything. That you can't change the past, that was Faraday's "theory".
It was first doubted by Hurley in his (timeless) nerd discussion with the Asian dude, when he brought up some inconsistency concerning young Ben.
Then Faraday started doubting it when trying to warn young Charlotte, so basically, no one actually ever said that you can't change the past.


Needless to say, there are only two possibilities a "you can't change the past with time travel" scenario can make sense:
-Fate - some kinda intelligent force interfering and preventing things from happening.
-Determinism - free will is a complete illusion, everything is determined.

So I'm guessing it's the first one here, with Jacob and all, I just find it really lame.
Obviously, if the cause is a supernatural force, Faraday can't possible have been "right" about his theory that was based on scientific ground ;)
So I think the plot's a huge mess :D

twooffour said:

Yea, I didn't check my cache, but I remember visiting this site from another PC, and the picture he referred to WAS VISIBLE THERE.
So maybe it really had something to do with location.

 

 

 

So, somehow, I could see it there, but you can't. Still a cache problem? You said something about gifs "expiring" and "renewing", is that in any way related?

Please, please, read or don't bother.

 

The only way to find out is to CLEAR THE FUCKING CACHE ON THE COMPUTER YOU ARE SEEING IT ON! You seem to daft to figure it out on your own, but that means BOTH fucking computers. The computer you posted on, and on that other computer you saw the image on.

I don't know why that other computers could see the image. Only you can find that out for sure. If it is a public computer, it is possible someone else looked at that picture before, or that you looked at the picture at some point and forgot, and that it was in your cache. 

The regional thing is extremely unlikely, but I suppose it isn't out of the realm of possibility. If you cleared the cache on both computers and they can still see the image, then the problem is obviously something else. I am still nearly 100% certain it is showing up because the image is in the cache of both computers. Depending on the browser's settings, the image could have been visited months or even years before and the computer could still be holding a saved copy.

As to your question of whether or not I am feeling stupid now. Yes, I do rather. Making attempts at trying to carry on intelligent conversations with a lesser evolved simian life form makes me feel very stupid indeed. The smart thing to do would be to toss you a banana leaving you contented and walk away.

Tune down the sexy please... I'm middle aged...

Bingowings said:

Tune down the sexy please... I'm middle aged...

Next time, on AS THE DEATH STAR TURNS...

twooffour said:

Pretty sure it was a cop-out at the last writing minute.

And now a flash-sideways to the pleasant conversation we could be having.

I agree. Not only was it a cop-out, but I think it was also a product of a show written by numerous writers, a tight writing schedule, and a limited number of episodes to wrap everything up in.

I don't think I've missed anything. That you can't change the past, that was Faraday's "theory".
It was first doubted by Hurley in his (timeless) nerd discussion with the Asian dude, when he brought up some inconsistency concerning young Ben.
Then Faraday started doubting it when trying to warn young Charlotte, so basically, no one actually ever said that you can't change the past.

But Faraday wasn't able to save Charlotte, and we found out that he was the scary man Charlotte remembered talking to and being freak out by in her childhood, indicting that everything that happened had always happened.

I guess in that case, the reason for the bomb not going off could be more accurately put as, it didn't go off because it never went off.

Needless to say, there are only two possibilities a "you can't change the past with time travel" scenario can make sense:
-Fate - some kinda intelligent force interfering and preventing things from happening.
-Determinism - free will is a complete illusion, everything is determined.

Those are definitely themes the show juggled around a lot.

I think the show often came out in support of the Determinism through most of its existence, by then in the last season switched it all over to Jacob (essentially playing the role of "fate") being the force that ensured everything happened as it was suppose to.

So I'm guessing it's the first one here, with Jacob and all, I just find it really lame.
Obviously, if the cause is a supernatural force, Faraday can't possible have been "right" about his theory that was based on scientific ground ;)
So I think the plot's a huge mess :D

I think it is lame too. I actually think, thanks to the many different writers of the show, a lot of different things are going on at different times.

I felt Faraday's theories were the most intriguing and fun answers the show ever explored (a big part of what made seasons 4 and 5 as good as they were). The "wizard did it" stuff with Jacob was a massive part of my disappointment in season 6.

Bingowings said:

Tune down the sexy please... I'm middle aged...

Do we need a "Not Safe for Working" tag added to the thread title?

Every time 2/4 puts "right" in "quotes," an angel falls into a vat of maple syrup.

Wait, that's not how that one goes...

It's ok I'll try to be strong.

twooffour:

- When you post an image, clear your cache and check to make sure it displays.

- If it does, Yay!  Your'e good!

- If it doesn't, then you have two options:

A) Go find another copy of the picture online and go back to step 1.

B) Copy the original image to your hard drive and reupload it to imgur or photobucket or wherever you want, then go back and use THAT one in step 1.

There.  Was it really that hard to figure it out without getting into whiny bitch mode?

There's an even faster way to do it, but I'll be damned if I'm going to try and help again.

EDIT: Two faster ways, though the second takes a little more brain power.

xhonzi said:

TV's Frink said:

There's an even faster way to do it, but I'll be damned if I'm going to try and help again.

EDIT: Two faster ways, though the second takes a little more brain power.

 Is it this way:

*insert pic of sad xhonzi bot shuffling away*

???

WRONG METHOD

Not sure how many of you care about fanedits (and I'm not reading the LOST stuff in the thread too closely, in case I do come back to the show someday), but Sunarep is working on a Season 6 edit to try and fix some of the complaints about things ended.

http://www.fanedit.org/forums/showthread.php?4112-Lost-Season-6-Purged-by-Sunarep

(requires FE.org registration)

ChainsawAsh said:

twooffour:

- When you post an image, clear your cache and check to make sure it displays.

- If it does, Yay!  Your'e good!

- If it doesn't, then you have two options:

A) Go find another copy of the picture online and go back to step 1.

B) Copy the original image to your hard drive and reupload it to imgur or photobucket or wherever you want, then go back and use THAT one in step 1.

 

There.  Was it really that hard to figure it out without getting into whiny bitch mode?

I already got that part the first time, thanks.

What everyone seems not to get, is that there apparently was ANOTHER problem with a picture I posted.
And this is the last time I'm mentioning it.

twooffour said:

And this is the last time I'm mentioning it.

Dear lord, please let this be true.

CP3S said:

twooffour said:

Yea, I didn't check my cache, but I remember visiting this site from another PC, and the picture he referred to WAS VISIBLE THERE.
So maybe it really had something to do with location.

 

 

 

So, somehow, I could see it there, but you can't. Still a cache problem? You said something about gifs "expiring" and "renewing", is that in any way related?

Please, please, read or don't bother.

 

 

The only way to find out is to CLEAR THE FUCKING CACHE ON THE COMPUTER YOU ARE SEEING IT ON! You seem to daft to figure it out on your own, but that means BOTH fucking computers. The computer you posted on, and on that other computer you saw the image on.

I don't know why that other computers could see the image. Only you can find that out for sure. If it is a public computer, it is possible someone else looked at that picture before, or that you looked at the picture at some point and forgot, and that it was in your cache. 

The regional thing is extremely unlikely, but I suppose it isn't out of the realm of possibility. If you cleared the cache on both computers and they can still see the image, then the problem is obviously something else. I am still nearly 100% certain it is showing up because the image is in the cache of both computers. Depending on the browser's settings, the image could have been visited months or even years before and the computer could still be holding a saved copy.

Well, it was a public computer, but as far as I know, one that clears its cache everytime it's turned off.

I certainly hadn't looked at it there (I mean the original page), but I guess IF what I was told by the responsible student was somehow not true and it stores images for years, then yea, I guess the probability that someone else had visited it isn't that off.
I mean, it's rather counter-intuitive, but then I found it by googling "old man dancing" and it was the funniest picture there, so I guess it's possible.

I'll be sure to check in the future.

As to your question of whether or not I am feeling stupid now. Yes, I do rather. Making attempts at trying to carry on intelligent conversations with a lesser evolved simian life form makes me feel very stupid indeed. The smart thing to do would be to toss you a banana leaving you contented and walk away.

That's not the problem here.  You are the problem here.

Bingo, you need me on that wall!

That's too much explosion.

CP3S said:

twooffour said:

Pretty sure it was a cop-out at the last writing minute.

And now a flash-sideways to the pleasant conversation we could be having.

I agree. Not only was it a cop-out, but I think it was also a product of a show written by numerous writers, a tight writing schedule, and a limited number of episodes to wrap everything up in.

 

I don't think I've missed anything. That you can't change the past, that was Faraday's "theory".
It was first doubted by Hurley in his (timeless) nerd discussion with the Asian dude, when he brought up some inconsistency concerning young Ben.
Then Faraday started doubting it when trying to warn young Charlotte, so basically, no one actually ever said that you can't change the past.

But Faraday wasn't able to save Charlotte, and we found out that he was the scary man Charlotte remembered talking to and being freak out by in her childhood, indicting that everything that happened had always happened.

I guess in that case, the reason for the bomb not going off could be more accurately put as, it didn't go off because it never went off.

 

Needless to say, there are only two possibilities a "you can't change the past with time travel" scenario can make sense:
-Fate - some kinda intelligent force interfering and preventing things from happening.
-Determinism - free will is a complete illusion, everything is determined.

Those are definitely themes the show juggled around a lot.

I think the show often came out in support of the Determinism through most of its existence, by then in the last season switched it all over to Jacob (essentially playing the role of "fate") being the force that ensured everything happened as it was suppose to.

 

So I'm guessing it's the first one here, with Jacob and all, I just find it really lame.
Obviously, if the cause is a supernatural force, Faraday can't possible have been "right" about his theory that was based on scientific ground ;)
So I think the plot's a huge mess :D

I think it is lame too. I actually think, thanks to the many different writers of the show, a lot of different things are going on at different times.

I felt Faraday's theories were the most intriguing and fun answers the show ever explored (a big part of what made seasons 4 and 5 as good as they were). The "wizard did it" stuff with Jacob was a massive part of my disappointment in season 6.

I agree. Not only was it a cop-out, but I think it was also a product of a show written by numerous writers, a tight writing schedule, and a limited number of episodes to wrap everything up in.

But Faraday wasn't able to save Charlotte, and we found out that he was the scary man Charlotte remembered talking to and being freak out by in her childhood, indicting that everything that happened had always happened.

I guess in that case, the reason for the bomb not going off could be more accurately put as, it didn't go off because it never went off.

I think the show often came out in support of the Determinism through most of its existence, by then in the last season switched it all over to Jacob (essentially playing the role of "fate") being the force that ensured everything happened as it was suppose to.

I think it is lame too. I actually think, thanks to the many different writers of the show, a lot of different things are going on at different times.

I felt Faraday's theories were the most intriguing and fun answers the show ever explored (a big part of what made seasons 4 and 5 as good as they were). The "wizard did it" stuff with Jacob was a massive part of my disappointment in season 6.