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So Frink's LOST argument, what was it again? ;)
So Frink's LOST argument, what was it again? ;)
So can anyone explain to me why I gave up four episodes in? I liked what I was watching to that point. It was well made, interesting, left me wanting to know more, etc. etc. etc.
What's my problem with LOST?
You didn't have anyone to "watch it with"? To me, the experience of the show was very social. Perhaps you could compare it to last year's super bowl? You know no one else is watching what you're watching or really cares about it anymore despite the fact that everyone* did a year back.
IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!
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Well, I can see the idea that it would have been more fun to be discussing it with people as it was happening, rather than years later in a dark room trying to keep my newborn asleep.
Actually, I think the turning point was related to that. Once she started sleeping (some, although not as much as she should, grrrrr), I didn't have nearly as much time for plowing through my netflix queue. And I kept finding other things I wanted to watch first.
Maybe I'll come back to LOST when I'm old(er).
So I saw the first couple of episode of Jericho, I thought it was kinda cool, nukes, Skeet Ulrich and all, but I turned off after that!
Why? No idea. Let's discuss!!
twooffour said:
Actually I've seen the entire 1st season.
What xhonzi says.xhonzi said:
You didn't have anyone to "watch it with"? To me, the experience of the show was very social. Perhaps you could compare it to last year's super bowl? You know no one else is watching what you're watching or really cares about it anymore despite the fact that everyone* did a year back.
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¡BIG LOST SPOILERS!
RE: Changing the past - I think it's the former, that they couldn't change the past, and season five was just a huge waste of time (for some of the characters). But just because they wasted their time doesn't mean we (the viewers) did. I think it's sort of unprecedented that they had this huge finale and this whole bomb/canging-the-past storyline and it all failed miserably. They were still in denial of the fact that they were actually brought to the island for a puspose, and in fighting against it they ended up killing one of their friends (Juliet). And then, once they realized it at the beginning of season six they all started dealing with it in their own ways: Jack finally started to 'give in' to the island, and James became a depressive loner.
But regardless of all this, on its own merits season five was great. The time travel storyline, the action, the mysteries. It was all so fast paced, entertaining, and well made. Remarkable television.
doubleofive said:
xhonzi said:
You didn't have anyone to "watch it with"? To me, the experience of the show was very social. Perhaps you could compare it to last year's super bowl? You know no one else is watching what you're watching or really cares about it anymore despite the fact that everyone* did a year back.
What xhonzi says.
Exactly. Every week I'd watch it with a small group of people, and then throughout the week everyone would debate the possibilites of what was happening, or going to happen. And we would all notice little things and point them out to each other, such as a repeating phrase or symbol, or the color of someone's clothing. It was totally immersive.
twooffour said:
I thought that was the argument, not the point.
It is really amusing how everything is an argument or a debate to you. To everyone else it is twofortwo being a total blatant retard, and to you it is proving how right you always are.
For example, your response to this will be a potentially very long explanation (or a statement at the very least) about how it is in fact I who am the blatant idiot who is experiencing a reality "fail" (I swear the word "fail" appears in every freakin' one of your posts), while you are the one who couldn't be any more right if you tried.
If you use "irony" then anyone who doesn't get it or pretends not to get it is clearly lacking in comprehension abilities (and are experiencing some sort of "fail"), but when you do it, it is because the irony that you missed or are pretending to miss was clearly an "irony fail" on the part of the other poster.
Your avatar is so horny when you post like that.
RedFive said:
¡BIG LOST SPOILERS!
RE: Changing the past - I think it's the former, that they couldn't change the past, and season five was just a huge waste of time (for some of the characters). But just because they wasted their time doesn't mean we (the viewers) did. I think it's sort of unprecedented that they had this huge finale and this whole bomb/canging-the-past storyline and it all failed miserably. They were still in denial of the fact that they were actually brought to the island for a puspose, and in fighting against it they ended up killing one of their friends (Juliet). And then, once they realized it at the beginning of season six they all started dealing with it in their own ways: Jack finally started to 'give in' to the island, and James became a depressive loner.
But regardless of all this, on its own merits season five was great. The time travel storyline, the action, the mysteries. It was all so fast paced, entertaining, and well made. Remarkable television.
What I don't get is why the bomb didn't blow up. Or it blew up, but only like a firecraker? I forget.
Was it like, fate? Jacob? Like in the Black Rock, they ignited a bomb and the fire just went out?
Did Juliet fall into the pit because they tried to escape their fate?
I dunno... I agree it was very well made, and engaging, but plotwise, that seems to me on the level of "a Force did it".
It's just lame.
Why, why did they change the alternative timeline to the afterlife? That was SUCH a cool plot.
twooffour said:
And if I'm such a noob I hadn't known that, how am I supposed to make sure everyone else has it in their cache, too, so they can see the picture, based on your little "hint"?
Hahahahaha!!!
This post proves beyond a doubt that you are either a bigger fucking idiot than I ever realized, or you simply didn't read Fink's post. Or maybe we're working with a language gap here. He explained in detail what you had to do to see if your images are working or not. I was actually shocked myself to see him nicely and politely trying to help you, and extremely amused that you responded to his effort with hostility.
You CAN'T make sure it is in everyone elses caches. What you can do, and what Fink explained how to do, is figure out if the only reason you are seeing it is because it is in YOUR cache. If hot linking isn't allowed for an image, and the host is going through an effort to keep it from being hot linked, then you just need to find that image in another location or resolve to use another image.
CP3S said:
twooffour said:
I thought that was the argument, not the point.
It is really amusing how everything is an argument or a debate to you.[/QUOTE]
"Argument" as in "argument backing up a thesis/point", not "argument=intensive debate".
But hey, yea, post something like "242 is always right!!" to something completely unrelated, just to annoy me, and then complain how I take it as an attack ;)
[QUOTE]To everyone else it is twofortwo being a total blatant retard, and to you it is proving how right you always are.
Yea, like last time when everyone thought I was a retard for not getting the difference between opinion and fact, posting simplified 1st grader explanations to "teach" me?
And then... and then... lol.
For example, your response to this will be a potentially very long explanation (or a statement at the very least) about how it is in fact I who am the blatant idiot who is experiencing a reality "fail" (I swear the word "fail" appears in every freakin' one of your posts), while you are the one who couldn't be any more right if you tried.
If you use "irony" then anyone who doesn't get it or pretends not to get it is clearly lacking in comprehension abilities (and are experiencing some sort of "fail"), but when you do it, it is because the irony that you missed or are pretending to miss was clearly an "irony fail" on the part of the other poster.
Well, in this case, I'm pretty sure I got your irony when you put "right" in quotation marks, because, surprise, it was actually sacasrm!!
That was a pretty easy one, as well as an old one, so come on.
It was also an irony fail, because you apparently really believed it was representative of what I think of myself.
I generally don't consider myself superior on ANYTHING, to ANYONE, before things get going, only when I HAPPEN to get into a situation where everyone around me seems to be acting like a complete dunce, and I can actually articulate and prove it time and time again.
Even then, the appearence is mostly of otherwise intelligent people being on a "wave of stupid" for some reason, rather than complete idiots - on forums like this, I mean, you never know about Avatards!
Trying to caricature that with an accusation of general blind arrogance, is just lame.
Bingowings said:
Your avatar is so horny when you post like that.
Actually, my avatar is a bit over sexed and rarely gets a chance to become genuinely horny.
It's amazing how many idiots surround twooffour every time he posts. I think he's LOST reality.
Bingowings said:
Bingo, if this is another washing pans reference, I suggest you find one that doesn't features a little girl. That's a bit weird.
I'm trying to focus my mind on more innocent pastimes like washing egg cups and mugs.
CP3S said:
twooffour said:
And if I'm such a noob I hadn't known that, how am I supposed to make sure everyone else has it in their cache, too, so they can see the picture, based on your little "hint"?
Hahahahaha!!!
This post proves beyond a doubt that you are either a bigger fucking idiot than I ever realized, or you simply didn't read Fink's post. Or maybe we're working with a language gap here. He explained in detail what you had to do to see if your images are working or not. I was actually shocked myself to see him nicely and politely trying to help you, and extremely amused that you responded to his effort with hostility.
You CAN'T make sure it is in everyone elses caches. What you can do, and what Fink explained how to do, is figure out if the only reason you are seeing it is because it is in YOUR cache. If hot linking isn't allowed for an image, and the host is going through an effort to keep it from being hot linked, then you just need to find that image in another location or resolve to use another image.
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And if I'm such a noob I hadn't known that, how am I supposed to make sure everyone else has it in their cache, too, so they can see the picture, based on your little "hint"?
So I guess the answer is avoiding the pictures that don't show, eh?
Haven't I already said I've been on another computer and the same picture worked just fine? I hadn't visited the original page on that one.
So, somehow, I could see it there, but you can't. Still a cache problem? You said something about gifs "expiring" and "renewing", is that in any way related?
TV's Frink said:
Bingowings said:
Bingo, if this is another washing pans reference, I suggest you find one that doesn't features a little girl. That's a bit weird.
Feeling a bit insecure, aren't we? :p
I know innocently washing the dishes is a porn staple... but come on...
twooffour said:
What I don't get is why the bomb didn't blow up. Or it blew up, but only like a firecraker? I forget.
I guess you missed the part about not being able to change the past? The island blows up in the past, no plane crash in the future; plan did crash in the future, therefore island can't blow up in the past.
Initially season six seemed pretty amazing when the idea seemed to be that we were dealing with split timelines,
'Timeline A': Desmond doesn't press the button and brings down the plane.
'Timeline B': Bomb blows up the island resulting in no button, no stranded Desmond, and no plane crash. All the influences the island had on the outside world from that point on never happened, resulting in significant variations in the lives of many of the main characters.
I really loved the 'Timeline B' concept being shown through the flash-sideways, which really added to the disappointment when the show revealed that the flash-sideways were just the characters existences in limbo, and not actually a 'Timeline B'.
:(
Bingowings said:
I'm trying to focus my mind on more innocent pastimes like washing egg cups and mugs.
Gotcha.
twooffour said:
TV's Frink said:
Bingowings said:
Bingo, if this is another washing pans reference, I suggest you find one that doesn't features a little girl. That's a bit weird.
Feeling a bit insecure, aren't we? :p
I know innocently washing the dishes is a porn staple... but come on...
Insecure?
The hell are you talking about?
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Bingo said...oh never mind. If you can't understand your cache, you'll never understand this.