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Originally posted by: Tiptup


Essentially, the gal on the boat was getting a reading which told her that the rocket landed at its destination before her conversation with Daniel had even ended. He didn't see the rocket land until a long time afterwards, however, and its clock was faster than his by about a half hour.

Exactly 31 minutes.

How extreme time dilation and other effects could apply to an island that can be reached by air and sea from our earth seems rather silly to me, but perhaps the writers are smarter than I give them credit. I'm guessing it will be the typical, sci-fi-fudged version of physics. Perhaps in the end we'll find out that the Island intersects some sort of extremely weird gravitational phenomenon.


Well, the show is sci-fi. We have a deadly monster who consists of what appears to be black smoke, we have a guy who seemingly has visions of the future and may have even traveled back in time after surviving the implosion of an under ground concrete bunker, a decent quantity of people surviving a plain crash relatively unscathed. I mean comon, we have Jack lying on his back in the jungle, having seemingly fallen out of the plan and hit the ground (ouch) he gets up and finds just about every other survivor walking around with a few scrapes and bruses. In real live that would have been an extremely messy scene with ambulances and just about anyone who managed to servive by some miracle would be very likely rushed into the ICU. Not to mention Mikhail and Naomi who seem to have a couple of lives to spare each or the canonical comic con 07 Orchid Station Orientation video having to do with bunnies and the cashmire effect (more fudge sci-fi physics most likely). The show most definitely fits in the sci-fi category, so definitely expect a sci-fi answer for the island.



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Originally posted by: C3PX
Well, the show is sci-fi.


I know, but the mysterious nature of the show combined with my scientific knowledge leads me to think up complicated theories until I stop myself.

I'll just stick to my alternate reality/time-line theory for the island and say that the extreme relativistic effects (if there are any) are just the result of space time going crazy where our space intersects that diverging space-time history.

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Well I wouldn't say this last episode was my favorite, but still had some cool twists in it. Other people I've talked to said they saw the whole Aaron thing coming, but I didn't. And was it just me, or was Miles insinuating that Ben was the one with special powers who could conjure up anything he wanted?

As far as the space/time thing goes, next week's episode should be pretty interesting.

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So, what was the significance of the name "Eric"?

Edit: Or Aaron . . . I guess then that the child is Claire's baby?

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Hah. My friend and I were just joking about how this will all probably end with Jack and Hurley on a crazy mission to kidnap Locke's corpse (the last of the oceanic six to be revealed) and bring it back to the Island with them (where it can maybe live again like Jack's dad now does). John is too cool of a character to end up being dead.

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Originally posted by: Zion
And was it just me, or was Miles insinuating that Ben was the one with special powers who could conjure up anything he wanted?

As far as the space/time thing goes, next week's episode should be pretty interesting.


I don't think there was any insinuation that Ben has "special powers" that makes him able to pull 3.2 million out of magic box or something, I think Miles just knows more about Ben than we do, including the fact that 3.2 million might not be a whole lot of money for Ben. The passports from various countries with various aliases tells us that Ben might get around more than we think he does. Not to mention the photograph Miles had of Ben. This is all heading in some very interesting directions. As for next weeks episode, I am very much looking forward to it, I am thinking it will be one of the better ones this season.

@ Tiptup, yeah, the idea was that it was the same Aaron that Claire gave birth to on the island, and that somehow he came under the care of Kate.

I wonder if the fact that Kate has Aaron (or Turniphead, whichever name you prefer) is any indication that Claire might not be with us much longer. I guess her story arc has pretty much been exhusted... I had always thought that Claire was pretty safe from death simply because she had the baby, but with this recent revelation that just might change.

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I assume Jack is feeling guilty about separating him from his mother then. (That could explain why he doesn't want to meet the kid.) And yet the child was supposed to be evil and isn't being raised by his good mother anymore. Perhaps Jack is afraid of the child's dark powers.

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Don't forget that Jack and Claire are half brother and sister. Not that either of them know yet...but by the time they leave the island, I guess they will.
Programs getting stranger by the week. Next episode should be a goody. Desmond's usually are. And hopefully we find out what happened to the chopper they were all on.

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Well, I just saw my first episode of the show tonight. Obviously I have no real precedent or knowledge of what's going on, but I thought it was really cool. I think I might become hooked after this.

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Originally posted by: Zion
That was freakin insane.

That was more than insane. I was really worried about Lost for a bit, but it's been pretty right on this year.

Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Well, I just saw my first episode of the show tonight. Obviously I have no real precedent or knowledge of what's going on, but I thought it was really cool. I think I might become hooked after this.


You definitely need to start from the beginning with Lost. Rent or buy the first season, and I guarantee you will watch all of it in a week. It's TV-crack.

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Originally posted by: reave



You definitely need to start from the beginning with Lost. Rent or buy the first season, and I guarantee you will watch all of it in a week. It's TV-crack.


You can watch all the passed episodes online {Lost Season 1- 4 in HD Streaming} at CLICK HERE

Just click on the season you want to see on the left side menu. There are a few short adverts during the play back, but it's all free and official.

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It is episodes like "The Constant" that make it worth sticking with this show through soap operaesque crap like "Eggtown". The theme this season so far has been mostly boring or slow moving episodes with big revelations at the end. This was a truely excellent episode, it ranks of there among the finest of Lost episodes. Is it too much to ask for something even half this good each week?

Does it bother anyone else how happy go lucky everyone in New Othersville were in Eggtown? Here is Clare whos boyfriend just died while trying to get them off the island, so she decides to stay on the island and a mere two days later the loss is forgotten and now she is smily and giggly playing with her baby and having chitchats with her new roomate. Lost has never handled grivences very well, but this is by far the worst.

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"Eggtown" was pure crap. This past episode was the best in a long long time. Desmond episodes tend to be the best IMHO.

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I wouldn't say total crap, I'd say 95% crap. The bit with Locke and Ben at the beginning was cool. But all the Kate and Swayer stuff was just too much. Show us around the others camp more or something, there are so many cool things to be seen on the island, yet we are stuck in the bedroom with Swayer and Kate talking about their future together.

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Also, the scene at the end of Eggtown with Locke and Miles at the end is the best scene that Locke has had in a long, long time.

Last night's episode... yeah, I don't even know what to say. Fucking great television.

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If I had a whole lot of time on my hands, and even more patience, it would be cool to recut each season of Lost into condensed form. Maybe 10 - 14 episodes a season, removing all the filler and meandering while being sure to include everything of value. It would be a mammoth task though, and editing a TV show can't be anything like editing a movie.

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what about a miniseries of movie length episodes?

You could prabably condens the whole first season down to a shorter arc of them trying the get off the island. You could always try flash back sto earlier 'on island' events later on too. Dunno if it would work out well.

Can't wait to sit down and watch the latest one, just have to take care of a few things around the house first...I think the main problem of eggtown is that there was hardly anything to it, Basiclaly it was only a few minutes worth of story. and the On island stuff wasn't very interesting at all.
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Originally posted by: Johnny Ringo
what about a miniseries of movie length episodes?


I made an edit like this for some friends and my Mom who only wanted to start watching this season. I kept most of the on island scenes {but with lots of trims}, and I also cut most of the back stories out for the cast members that would be gone by season 4 as well as the extra go no place bits for cast that are still with us. Much of the back story footage that was redundant was cut. The edit worked out very well in fact, and the story arc moved along at a much faster pace. All I had to do was keep in mind and try to remember all the story references that would crop up and come back into play later on. At times I would take back story elements from 3 or 4 episodes on the same character and link them together to move that character's history along much faster for the new viewer.
Also I started the project with all the crash events shown in the first 3 seasons edited together in a chronological order {including Niki and Palo from season three}, as well as the tail section stuff. So you would see the tail section events {from season two} along side the regular cast's events {from season one} side by side. Also, I put in the Hanso foundation films from the net as well as stuff from the bonus DVD's in the mix. It was a two week fast edit job, but was a lot of fun to do for them. I'm thinking of re-doing this project in high quality and posting it.

The Seasons turned out to be about 5 hours long each.

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Originally posted by: FanFiltration
I'm thinking of re-doing this project in high quality and posting it.


I for one would love it if you would do that. Please do. I wouldn't even mind it in low quality, assuming low quality is something closer to divx quality than youtube quality.

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Agreed, sounds interesting and maty well be a useful reference guide.

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Last episode just bugged me. All the flashbacks and the stuff with Locke and Ben was good, but...



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the whole stupid plot with Charlotte and Daniel was just ridiculouse. Here there is this group of people that don't completely trust them, but are leaning toward thinking they alright, so what do you do? Sneak off into the woods when their backs are turned and act overly suspicious. Then when one of then discovers you, you lie to them, knock them out when they turn their back on you in, and leave them bleeding in the jungle. Then in the end it all turns out it was one big misunderstanding and that the plan all along was to disable an island wide chemical weapon in order to prevent the possiblity of the others wiping everybody out with it. What was up with Daniel's "I don't think I can go through with this"? The whole thing was a really dumb fake out. Would have made more sense if they simply said that there is a chemical weapon they need to disable because that creepy Ben guy was psychotic enough that he might actually use it.

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape