This is really cool. So, as a total layman to these edits, Kerr has been working on edits of the Extended Editions, which you have also been collaborating on, right? So this is a version with your additional tweaks that can be considered somewhat like an initial release to Kerr’s edits later down the road? Sorry if I misunderstood. Regardless, I am interested.
Hal9000, or “Sharkey,” here.
(At the time of this writing, December 2018, Kerr has yet to release his LOTR fan edits. He has, however, allowed me to publish these ‘Extended Editions’ rather than wait for his definitive versions to be released. You aren’t missing anything; his regular edits have not yet been released and may not for some time. But since I’ve been sitting on these fully finished tweaked versions, they are being released now as “stewards” of his proper edits more in the vein of the theatrical editions.
I apologize that I do not have changelogs for Kerr’s forthcoming edits themselves, and only for my modifications of them. Perhaps when Kerr reads this he can provide these for inclusion. I will NOT be adding these to IFDB, since that will be up to Kerr to do when he is ready. These are merely alternative cuts of his project.)
This is a modified version of Kerr’s fan edits of the Lord of the Rings film trilogy, somewhat analogous to the ‘Extended Editions’ of the original films. I have taken Kerr’s edits, and folded back into them bits and pieces of the films, mostly from the Extended Editions. Thus, I consider this an extended version of his edit, rather than something new.
Kerr’s edits feature two audio tracks, the primary of which contains numerous musical alterations. I have used the second audio track by default, and only included a handful of his musical alterations where I felt they made sense and felt “right” to me. In the cutlist below, I list musical alterations Kerr made that I used for this extended version, rather than the other way around.
As part of the process, I painstakingly “remastered” the video source, plugging in the original BluRay footage in all but a handful of shots and scenes. This was done to ensure the maximum possible picture quality and avoiding a very slight generational loss. As such, the color timing throughout is not necessarily as Kerr intended. Some shots are left un-remastered, being either sourced from the theatrical cuts (and therefore not at my disposal) or featuring significant color differences that warranted being left as they were. All Elvish subtitles have been redone, save for those that occur over footage only contained in the theatrical cut, made to match Kerr’s formatting.
It’s been wonderful collaborating on this over the course of some 6 or 7 years, and I feel Kerr has pulled off an incredible set of edits, far greater than I could have hoped for if left to my own devices.
Changes from Kerr’s original edit:
Fellowship of the Ring:
- Used Kerr’s altered audio to add Gondor theme during Last Alliance battle
- Reinstated EE death of Isildur
- Used Kerr’s altered audio to add EE background music for Gandalf’s introduction
- Reinstated EE Frodo’s dialogue about Strider with Merry
- Reinstated EE Boromir’s dream speech and Gandalf’s black speed at Council of Elrond
- New disc break with Intermission title card and preliminary ‘Fellowship’ theme from earlier in the film
- Reinstated EE Gilraen’s memorial
- Reinstated EE Legoas specifying the nature of Gandalf’s demise, and Galadriel consoling Gimli
- Reinstated EE Sam’s verse about Gandalf’s fireworks
- Reinstated original audio of Galadriel’s “In place of a dark lord…” speech
- Reinstated EE gifts of Galadriel scene in full
- Used Kerr’s altered audio to use Gondor theme for the Argonath scene
- Reinstated EE Boromir and Aragorn’s debate scene at night by the River
- Reinstated EE Aragorn’s line, “They will look to his coming from the white tower, but he will not return.”
The Two Towers:
- Reinstated EE Frodo and Sam using the Elven rope
- Reinstated EE Gollum debating whether to help Frodo and Sam
- Reinstated EE Uruks giving Merry Orc-draught
- Reinstated EE countrymen swearing fealty to Saruman
- Reinstated EE Frodo and Gollum’s conversation in the Dead Marshes
- Used Kerr’s altered audio to use different music for the “Wraiths on Wings” scene
- Reinstated EE Gandalf’s line about how he “is” Saruman, in a way
- Reinstated EE Éowyn’s dirge for Theodred
- Reinstated EE Faramir’s speech regarding the fallen soldier
- New disc break with Intermission title card and triumphant Rohan theme from earlier in the film
- Reinstated EE Éowyn learning about Aragorn over stew
- Reinstated EE Faramir’s vision of coming across Boromir’s funeral boat
- Reinstated EE Treebeard’s full line, including, “…tree, root, and twig”
Return of the King:
- Reinstated dialogue between Sméagol and Déagol prior to their fight, and EE longer strangling
- Reinstated EE dialogue between Merry and Aragorn as Gandalf and Pippin ride from Edoras
- Reinstated a line or two Kerr cut from Gandalf and Faramir’s conversation about seeing Frodo and Sam in Ithilien
- Reinstated EE additional dialogue between Pippin and Denethor while offering his service
- Reinstated EE dialogue from Eomer about the horrors of battle
- Used different translation for subtitles as Elrond and Aragorn quote Gilraen, and added ellipses to imply they are reciting something known
- Reinstated EE dialogue from Aragorn to Éowyn as he prepares to leave the Rohirrim
- Reinstated EE introduction of Grond
- New disc break with Intermission title card and melancholy Gondor theme from two places earlier in the trilogy
- Reinstated EE Legolas reciting a verse while heading toward the Paths of the Dead
- Reinstated EE dialogue from Denethor as he heads to the tombs
- Used Kerr’s altered audio to add music to Gandalf’s confrontation with the Witch-King
- Used Kerr’s altered audio to add snippet when the Rohirrim collide with the Uruk ranks
- Reinstated Éowyn’s cry as she stabs the Witch-King in the face, that Kerr had removed
- Reinstated EE orc skirmishes prior to Sam entering the tower of Cirith Ungol
- Used Kerr’s altered audio to add intro and choir for the “For Frodo” scene
- Used Kerr’s altered audio to add instruments for the “Don’t you let go” scene
My stance on revising fan edits.