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@krausfadr
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@krausfadr
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Hello There, Your ideas have brought hope for people that have none and I would like a link for it. Thank you so much Kraus.
You are very welcome!
heil Palpatine!
Removing the line, “the same way I will destroy you” makes it now seem like Vader expects to be killed. Like he’s saying, “You’re about to kill me but I beat you to it really.” And when Ben leaves him like that, he’s pissed to be shown mercy or possibly to not be killed again. Shows Vader’s guilt, to have been passed over rightfully being killed twice.
Removing the line, “the same way I will destroy you” makes it now seem like Vader expects to be killed. Like he’s saying, “You’re about to kill me but I beat you to it really.” And when Ben leaves him like that, he’s pissed to be shown mercy or possibly to not be killed again. Shows Vader’s guilt, to have been passed over rightfully being killed twice.
Good analysis Hal. Yeah when I watch the scene now even though I want Vader to die I also feel genuine pity for him as well. The last 3 episodes and especially the final fight made me want to salvage Kenobi.
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send a link please?
Could I get a link too? Thank you!
The Vader dragging Obi-Wan into the fire sequence would definitely work much better as a dream. Could I get a link?
PM’s sent. As I watched the fire sequence in the original it felt off like “this is too contrived.” Having it be a dream solves that scene’s issues with both the storyline and low production value.
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I’d love to see this version too please!
Could I get a link as well? Some time’s freeing up & I’m excited to see this radical edit of the series.
Sounds great, I would love to see it. Can you send me a link please?
OT member Phase3 had a wonderful suggestion for altering the final duel in the Kenobi series so that we don’t end on Obi-Wan’s baffling choice to let Vader live. The basic idea is to move the burying obi-wan in rocks to the very end of the duel so that after Kenobi walks away from Vader with a sliced helmet, he screams out “Obi-Wan” then cracks the ground with the force, proceeding to bury Obi-Wan, walk away from the fight the victor. Then Obi-Wan climbs out and the fight is over.
If we can make this work, I think it would make the duel even more amazing than it already is (I quite enjoyed the fight outside of the nonsensical ending where Obi-Wan lets Vader live).
I created a mock-up of this idea. The changes so far:
-Reversing the flow of Kenobi retreating so it links smoothly to the later part of the duel.
-Flip shot of ground breaking for visual continuity.
-Removed Vader’s line “And that is why you will always lose” as he breaks the ground, rough sfx replaced (can be polished later)
-Cropped out vader of wide shot of ground breaking for visual continuity.
-Removed vader’s line “Did you really think you could defeat me?” after he buries him.
-Rearranged shots of Vader walking away for better flow
The one key change remaining to tie this whole idea together is somehow changing the final shots of the rock burying so that Vader’s helmet is still sliced in half. I don’t know who would have the special effects skills to do this but perhaps a community effort would achieve this.
Mock-up of the rearranged duel: https://streamable.com/myzuo3
Hello, could I get a link?
OT member Phase3 had a wonderful suggestion for altering the final duel in the Kenobi series so that we don’t end on Obi-Wan’s baffling choice to let Vader live.
I did address that specifically in my edit so it’s not as baffling / angering / confounding.
heil Palpatine!